MilienElayne
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thanks, fleur! i can’t believe some of the moves she can do in jeans with that stuff! not sure i’d want it on my skin though, from the looks of her face…lol
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Where’s this Karol jeans dance?
What are you wearing? Do you still have arm, lower leg, knee pit and shoulder exposure? Hmm. So what moves don’t need the thigh and tummy regions? Could do flag, shouldermount…then shouldermount split… if you can get into a butterfly you could also maybe get into a with-hand gemini and could do a reverse aysha from that? Getting down might be hard. Um, can do cartwheel kicks, reverse grab spins, drop splits… In theory there’s lots of holds and spins that just use hands and positioning… but entrance and exit might be tricky…. hmmm. Let us know how you go!
This should be a challenge suggestion!
There’s a vid of TaraKarina doing a dance in jeans around a washing line that might be a good reference. Also browse http://triagedesign.co.uk/wikipole/index.php5?title=Pole_Move_Directory for pics of people doing moves fully clothed for more ideas?
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I think you’d also need to avoid refined sugars (bread, pasta, most cookies? not sure) as well as bad fats, caffiene and alcohol. Maybe wholemeal stuff is ok? Check with your doctor and ask to see a dietician!
I read somewhere that smaller and more frequent meals helps not to over stress the pancreas as it has to make less juices at a time to help with digestion.
What’s recommended seems to be: whole grains, legumes (beans, peas, chickpeas…), fruits and vegetables and very lean meat (but again check that with your doctor and ask for a referal to a dietician). All good to keep your energy up.
I’m not on a diet for medical reasons or to really lose weight or anything, but I do try to eat low fat, natural, whole and fresh foods as much as possible because my body seems to like it and then my mind does as well.
I love whole rolled oats, muesli, raw fruit and veggies in a big variety, but steamed is good too (only it makes me gag if over done), can roast veges and to cut down the oil you just have to roll them lightly in it and you can even pat some of it off with paper towel… meat and protien is where I have trouble… Sometimes I’ll have a hard boiled egg (but is that fatty?)…low fat chicken which I get as lunch meat that’s nearly fat free breast meat, or just chicken roasted in its own juices with a simple herb crust and then cut off the skin and extra fat, or you can cut everything bad off and poach it in a clear asian vege soup maybe… Lean white fish is easy to do steamed or is yummy baked wrapped in foil with some fresh herbs and lemon slices. Soups are good and easy to make entirely fat free vegetarian style and/or you can add lentils or beans or chickpeas or noodles or some meat or tofu. I never have time to make soups though and my partner hates them for some reason.
Hmmm…. so high carb and fruit brekkie, some carbs and protien for lunch with fruit and veg sides or snacks, and veges and meat or meat subsitutes for dinner.
If I feel low I have a piece of fruit, a sweet vege like capsicum or a slice of cheese for a small quick snack and make sure I drink heaps of water cause I mistake hunger for thirst and vice versa sometimes. (Not sure if you can have much diary though, bit fatty?). But perhaps you could bake oat type cookies? With grated carrot and raisins and ginger is yummy and energising. Lemongrass tea would also help keep you awake.
Not sure if this was helpful? I cook as little as possible for myself and the babies I care for at work who I cook for have no diet restrictions (except they should eat healthy, duh) as to fats and carbs/sugars and they’re growing. So their food recipes wouldn’t be helpful to you. Most of what I eat is like cut lunch style if I can get away with it. Not helpful as to recipes… Sorry!
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I can’t fully split any way on the floor but still do pole split moves. I can sometimes get down into front splits on the floor, but still getting back to it after I partially tore a hammy a few months ago. I do cartwheel kicks into splits (tore hammy this way dropping too far and too quickly instead of controlled), shoulder splits, oona splits, chopper folded out and lowered into splits, have tried skater splits… I’m starting to lower myself into straddle splits from a pole up (so I can lift back up again… so afraid with straddle splits that my weight is going to push me too far and tear something). Nowhere near flexible enough to get on pole – up and down or straddle splits. Just can’t get myself into position. Would love to be able to do standing split putting my front leg on the pole and a free standing back split (like in yoga and ice skating?).
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I have trouble inverting from a climb too. A lot of it is in my head, and some of it is strength and positioning. I have to remember to lift up into it like I would from the ground. So I go into a pole pull up (from the pole stand, climb, sit or whatever I am in) before I flip over into a chopper. I barely ever engage my abs, so they’re still flabby and weak. They’re so fricking lazy, I can barely do all the ab work on the floor we do towards the end of pole classes, and my push ups suck really badly. But I can do lifted shouldermounts from floor pretty easy, and am up to straight leg choppers lifted from the floor? Just not aerial… ha ha. Need stronger abs to make aerial choppers and aerial shouldermounts easier. Ooh and what’s helping me slowly build more arm and ab strength is doing spider climbs every week. I’m up to 9 now! Spider climbs -> ( http://ver3.studioveena.com/lessons/view/2613 )
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Butterfly at work (one twin is watching from the top of a nearby slide and calling my name in a concerned little voice, as if my being upside down is unsettling, the other is with his mum at the doctor’s):
not a good shot, but those fireman’s poles at the park don’t have much leg swing room to invert in the right spot!
and… some non-pole trapeze practice also at the park today:
Photos are stills from videos. Popped my camera on other bits of play equipment. Didn’t notice any odd looks or comments from parents and their kids, but I’m sure there were some?
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I hate exercise for the sake of exercise. If it wasn’t gymnastics tricks on the oval, back bends and flips off the monkey bars, learning to high jump or tree climbing I wasn’t interested as a kid. Still am not. Love pole and aerials… but pole still feels so much more hardcore. Can get some burns in aerials so far, but pole means bruises, burns and takes SO much strength and grip. So much to learn and the improvements and aspirations seem like they’ll never end. There’s always a new trick to learn and old ones to link in and smooth out. I found pole after I looked into stripping for when I was desperate for work. Bought a pole to try and shape up and teach myself to dance while at uni before I went for an audition at a gentleman’s club, but the audition never happened. My bf doesn’t want me to strip and I don’t think I am confident and hard enough in myself to not let the possible negative things affect me. I admire women who can so much. So, I’m sticking with working hard for peanuts as a nanny and maybe eventually becoming a pole instructor and performer. I am the fittest and most confident I have ever been since I became a shy, anxious girl when I started school. Before that I was an exhibitionist 3 year old hanging from one leg in a tree flailing around freaking out my grandmother. Now I am back…but I’m a woman and I’m a pole dancer hanging from one leg from a pole… and still freaking out my grandmother! POLE LOVE!!!
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I tell everyone and PLASTER my FB with my photos and some of my videos. I’m so proud of every move I can do and it’s one of my biggest happinesses. My whole family (yep, even my grandparents and my uncle’s ex wife) gets update emails with photos and vids. I am FB friends with people from when I was 5 all through the different schools I went to, all of my partner’s family, ex co-workers… everyone. The only people in my life who don’t know I pole and totally love it to bits are my employers and any future employers. I’m a nanny and want to get into government and welfare positions someday. I have told them I am doing aerials classes, because that’s more ‘socially acceptable’. If the job market wasn’t so ridiculously hard to break into, I would not care. But I need money. If anyone cared, they could find me everywhere and anywhere. My employer could just search for me on FB and see me doing Butterflies in my undies. She’s technologically useless though, thankfully. I think my screenname is going to be my stage name (shortened to ‘Mili’, ‘Milien’ is Sindarin and some people can’t pronounce it). I use my screenname in heaps of places and it’s sometimes connected with my real name, which is then easily looked up. No-one cares though. I get barely any comments on FB or anywhere else from people I actually know in real life, I think the shock/novelty factor has worn off, they’ve all got me filtered out so they don’t have to see my tight little butt contorted into awesome poses on a pole, or they really don’t care. Whatever. I’m going to get into competition shape someday and invite them all to the show(s) and anyone who comes is going to be blown away and converted to pole fans. Ha ha. (No, not really that confident. SOMEDAY is the operative word there…)
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There are lots of variables besides muscle that I can think of that might affect staying up in a sit. There’s all your grip variables: temperature of you, the pole, the environment… your skin condition – too sweaty, presence of lotion or oils, too dry… is it a humid day? Then there’s your technique… are you doing it right for you? Do you just need more practice? Are you not squeezing enough and in the right places reflexively because it hurts? Have you got a photo or vid of you trying this move so we can see what you’re doing? Have you tried different types of sits and stands to find one that works well for you right now?
Squats and grinds (aka plies), and low squatting jumps and squats into leg raises are good for the thighs, I think. Any ballet dvd will have heaps of thigh work in it.
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Can you just have a shot of black coffee, no sugar? I use coffee rarely and like a drug to make me high and keep me awake all night. Also makes me anxious. Like a junkie. Gives me palpitations if I take caffiene in any form and then do cardio. I don’t understand drinking coffee, tea, wine, soft drink, milk… I don’t like milk, I don’t like bubbles, I don’t like waiting for my hot drink to cool, wine makes me more thirsty… none of these make me feel hydrated. If I am thirsty, my body calls for water. I love water, I drink water like I breathe air. I freak out if I run out of water. I carry two water bottles and fill them all through the day. I have like 3L every day (over 6 pints?).
As to belly fat… well, I have the laziest abs, they only engage if they absolutely have to. If no-one else in the body is going to pick up the slack they will reluctantly and only for as long as necessary. I thought my boob fat would be the last to go, but I’m still dropping cup sizes and my belly is still poochy. Does feel a tiny bit flatter after every cardio session though. God, I hate cardio. Hence, why I MUST attend classes to MAKE me do it.
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One of my biceps is noticeably bigger than the other and one of my shoulders is stronger/harder than the other… not a good look… hence today I worked my gumbi side SM lift https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
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I tend to try all my moves both sides and just started doing my choppers both sides, just figured out how to do SMs both sides… and in class some instructors emphasise both sides. It gets so confusing though, I often forget which side is my best for a particular move and go for it on my bad side and make it messy in class when I’m meant to be showing my best shot before we move onto something else. Oops. Oh and be CAREFUL doing your first big moves on the weak side. Went for a spin mode Jamilla to Butterfly on my strong Jamilla but weak Ex. Butterfly side and nearly popped my shoulder out with momentum and fumbling :S Strong vs weak sides really messes up combos.
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Couldn’t someone at the studio teach you how to put the x-stage together? Maybe use a routine that you’ve already used before if it’s just auditions and if you have more time then make up a new one for the competition? I agree with amyxshi: I wouldn’t take the sexy out if that’s your style. As unsexified as you could make it, I think there’d still be someone who’ll want to call you a stripper just because you’re on a pole. It’s a scary performance, I think, because it’s not a surely pole-friendly environment… taking pole to a new frontier. It’s like introducing flavoursome, interesting foods to someone who’s only ever eaten peanut butter sandwiches. You’re never going to know the reaction in advance. It sounds like you quite want to do it!
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Mine now load. Try again tomorrow?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2j_Opqchag
Oh wow. I haven’t seen an AERIAL Jamilla to Butterfly before (1.10). Hella strong! And 1.42 is like a shoulder dismount into shoulder splits, which would KILL the contact points, but gets a really nice split going. Is 2.03 an elbow grip extended butterfly? Hot!
And …..that layback at 2.35… yes, yes, indeed… I do need that. It looks so contorted. 3.55: what is that?! Must have that too.
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Creative ways to include pole wiping, grip application and wardobe fix-ups in your pole routines! There have got to be 101 sexy ways to wipe the pole down, some sort of sneaky ways to fix your grip mid-routine and ways to fix your wardrobe intentionally or stealthily.
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you can so make wiping the pole sexy! oooh oooh. *heads off to make that a challenge suggestion* https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_razz.gif
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So sad! I don’t even have me some matching bras and undies that actually fit me and aren’t worn out to wear for this. I can see myself on the floor laughing my head off doing this Feb challenge after about 50 takes and still not sexy…lol. Still haven’t made myself do the Jan challenge yet. I must!
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I remember from one of Veena’s first beginner vids that you should always warm up first and THEN stretch out.
My physio also told me not to do dedicated stretches before a workout, just a lesser form of what you’d be doing in your dancing session, so like stretches but more focus on movement than a held stretch: controlled and continuous. The real stretching is part of the cool down and maybe more after you finish class or your workout. This was the advice given to me after I partially ruptured my hamstring (doing a cartwheel kick into drop splits) and my physio knew I was going to continue classes straight away anyway. I had to do my physio exercises first, then stretch and ice only after, if not seperately. She said if I stretched fully first, I’d be more prone to pulling a muscle when exercising.
I see performers stretch out before they do anything, but some of them have crazy flexibility and that may just be their warming up as other things mightn’t get in there? I don’t know.
Check with a doctor, physio or other expert if you’re unsure.
There are so many stretches! I don’t do much on my own unless it’s necessary to nail a new move. I’m bad like that… but luckily I take several classes a week which include stretches. My splits come and go. Some days when I get really warm, I can drop into front splits on both sides then my hips will lock up in places and I can’t get into a straddle far at all, where other times I can straddle further than before. Weird.
I found this useful for pictures of splits stretches, but as with everything, take with a grain of salt and use your own judgement: http://members.fortunecity.com/tchb1/Splits.htm
Be gentle!
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So. A Mili Drop Update!
I’ve practiced it once more since my first attempts and I couldn’t even hook my foot properly for a plain archer, so BOO! I’m going to practice practice practice though, when I get the chance. Darn having to work all day off pole for my money…lol.
But, all of the instructors at my studio have now seen my video and are impressed. One has attempted it and loves it. No-one has perfected it yet there though, I believe. However, they love it so much they’ve invited me to come in and be a part of a video shoot when one of the instructors does perfect it so they can upload it to YouTube and their website.
It’s like it’s a race! It’s between Veena, Fleur, Pole Divas and me (so far) to see who can get video footage up of a complete Mili Drop first. I’m going to lose https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_razz.gif Ha ha. No, no, it’s not a race. Lol. I’m just excited.
This move is apparantly ‘very dangerous’ but every move has that potential, right?
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keeping your head forward like you did at :03 is the only way you will get that great C curve in your back, if you are using the pole. make sure you stretch out before you practice on the pole though! my contortion friend said you can get scarring in your back and you wont progress if you dont https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif
looking great though! keep up the hard work https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gifThanks! I had warmed up and stretched out before starting my pole workout. Yeah, I worked out that I had to push my chest out and have my head looking at the pole to get my feet lower. That’s what you mean, yeah? I just love how my back springs right back. My legs hate me sometimes, but my back is forgiving if I sometimes take the day off. You’re so right about that!
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oops. omg. was posting while watching and didn’t finish the clip before posting. there’s nudity in that clip at 3.25. Sorry!!!
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Found a pole sit drop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgI2e6a75TU&feature=related at 2.22. *EDIT* Be warned there’s nudity past 3.25 in this clip. I can’t totally remove this post, so I thought I’d edit it. There’s another post after this one mentioning this also but it went to the next page and I wanted to make sure this warning was seen. If this needs to be removed, moderator please do so.
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I just got this same error message for a clip I’m trying to upload. I watch it load, then it says approved and then the error message and the vid disappears. I’ve checked that it’s small enough and I have tried in .wmv, .flv, and .mp4 formats. Is there an upper limit to how many vid any one member can post? If not, I’d love to know what type of error occured so I can remedy this.
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Out of curiosity: What would be the criteria you’d look for in a line of pole dancer clothes as top heavy ladies?
I’m pretty demanding, I think…
I’d want matching tops and bottoms that can be bought in hugely different sizes. If I bought a cropped top in Kmart, it would be a stretchy 16 to cover, but the matching undies or shorts would be an 8 (Australian sizing, sorry, but you see the great difference).
I echo the cup versus band dilemma. In Australia we have small bands and small to large cups… but of course the styles get grosser once you pass out of DD into E and beyond. We don’t have small cup sizes teamed with larger band sizes and again, the bigger the band size, the uglier the bra tends to be. I am safe at the moment, as long as I stay under an E because I need a large cup and small band. So I’d want lots of possible combinations there.
My size changes every few months too! Either from weight gain or loss. I hope I have stopped growing… :S Adjustable cups would be cool… maybe not doable though…lol.
I’d want the choice of full coverage or lesser coverage with each pattern/color/design, so multiple styles of bra in the exact same theme. I hate going to a store and finding a cute color or pattern and not being able to wear it because it’s not in a style that fits/suits.
I like the idea of reversibles so there’s two outfits in one… probably wouldn’t work for formed bras though, but normal tops and bottoms.
I’d like to choose between plain and flashy too… lots of different choices.
How are some outfits more ‘pole appropriate’ than others?
For me, I want coverage because I don’t want to fall out and am self-consious when I pole, but if everything fits well, does it matter what you wear as long as your points of contact are bare?
