[azriel]

Sascha that’s soo awesome! you must’ve had so much fun!!! really can’t wait to see it! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/alien.gif

Rouge i really hope you do get back into the industry- you sound like you really have a thing for it! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

[azriel]

Have you made sure the the little holes are lined up with the little Xs at the bottom? I also found that my screws are never tight enough unless i insert the short side of the key in, so the long side is sticking out, and twist like that. You get a much tighter screw that way. If you already did that, and it still loosens so fast, i don’t know, i would call the technical assistance department at x-pole. good luck!

[azriel]

oohh mrstrone i like roxy pink for you!! i’m thinking of naming my pole Balthazar. LOL .or maybe Sylvester

[azriel]

ooohhh those are both cool moves, but i think that the way kelly does it is harder, because she gets into it from a shoulder mount, and seems like she holds the shouldermount ‘pose’ without really using her legs much.. i’ve been practicing this the way lola does it- i just can’t seem to slide down as fast as i would like to yet.. guess it’s just a matter of a lil practice!

[azriel]

welcome misha..! yeah we’d love to hear about your first lesson!

[azriel]

OMG how the he** did i miss this thread?! great job trena! and nooo, we’re not fed up of you bragging, i (at least) love hearing about others’ accomplishments! it makes sense what everyone else said about being able to do some moves only with others, although that’s never happened to me, as i’m always alone- lol. But lots of times i can do some moves no problem, and then i can’t do them the next time.

[azriel]

.. just wanted to say i got a bit sad that i missed last week’s chat, so i’ll definately be there tomorrow- i really missed you guys! and i hope some of the new members can make it, i really encourage all of you to stop by, even if its just to say hi.. we have alot of fun and sometimes learn a lot too! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif

[azriel]

awww veena that’s exactly why we all love you and this site so much.. you ARE a professional, but you’re also REAL and genuine at the same time! and your attitude sets the "prototype" for the members as well as the atmosphere of the site itself! so congrats for creating a site that is exactly what you say it is- "a supportive community for pole dancers", and anyone who feels like the outsider in other parts of their lives can feel right at home here! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_razz.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_elephant.gif Lol i’m feeling a bit emotional today too https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_albino.gif

[azriel]

OMG what a loser! fleur is right in everything she said. i’m a psycholgist, so take it from me too: this guy has SERIOUS psychological/emotional disturbances, self-worh issues, and resentment towards beautiful women, one reason being THAT HE CAN’T GET ANY!!! And instead of seeking help for his problems, he deals with them the only way he knows how: judging and criticizing what it is that he knows he’s not worthy of having.

My scenario about his probable life: he was the fat ugly geeky boy in school (not that there’s anything wrong with that), who was made fun of and bullied, in high-school all the girls ignored him or teased him, and one of his parents/guardians (most likely his father) was at least psychologically/verbally abusive, thus leading him to feel like an unworthy pathetic creature. His job sucks, if he even has a job, and due to his narcisistic personality traits he doesn’t have any real friends and always feels like the victim. His only "enjoyment" in life is putting down others, as was always done to him, and of course over the internet where he can conveniently hide behind his computer!!!
In this way, by putting down the people who he truly admires, he feels like he is getting revenge to all those people that hurt him in his life.
Sad, i know, and of course i don’t know this guy or if his life was really like that, but i bet it was along those lines.

ONE FINAL NOTE: THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT EVERYONE WHO GREW UP LIKE THAT BECOMES THIS WAY – so please, i don’t mean to offend anyone who didn’t have a perfect childhood- (my life was far from perfect too).. i’m just trying to make a point. Everyone’s coping mechanisms are different, and this guy just happens to have really bad ones, in combination with bad character.

[azriel]

i was afraid of this spin at first too. the best advice i got for this was from veena, who told me to keep my arm pretty low, at about waist level. i started off in small movements, like doing the spin very slowly, barely spinning at all. that got me feeling abit more confident, and then i just went for it all out- if you can already do a normal superman pose securely, than just think that the worst that can happen is to slide/fall from waist-level height.. really not that bad! and if it burns your thighs you can always just release them and drop feet down while still holding on with your hand.. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

[azriel]

don’t be so hard on yourself- you’ve only had the pole 1 day! the other day i was giving a friend her first lesson, and the fireman spin was very difficult for her for the same reason.. she wouldn’t even try the pole sit. like fleur said, pole fear is very common in the beginning. once you start getting a couple spins, then they all begin to get easier to accomplish, as you’re getting more confident (mind over matter, as mrstrone said)and building more arm strength. just remember to try to keep your shoulders back and down and rely more on your arms (i still forget to do that sometimes). keep us posted!! xx

[azriel]

hi lovemysoul, and welcome! i live in athens too, i heard about some new pole classes being offered in aghia paraskevi.. is that where you’re taking them?

[azriel]

happy belated birthday glitter!!!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/alien.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_flower.gif

[azriel]

Trena that sounds like it was so much fun! thanks for updating us! and wow, you’ve been gettin so many new moves lately.. dam girl, you’re on a roll!!! hope to see another vid from you soon! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cyclops_ani.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rabbit.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_pirat.gif

[azriel]

Thank you both so much for your empathy and advice! i will definately look into getting it treated and i will give it "special attention and nurturance" https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif !! i started massaging it more after reading your replies, and i can honestly say that it’s begun to feel a little bit better.. thanks again, luv you guys!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_dwarf.gif

[azriel]

I don’t know if this is what fleur meant, but if you want your dom hand on top, try inverting from your other side. However, for me it’s much more difficult to flip into superman when i’m inverted on my wrong side. So another thing you can do is to practice being in the superman position with your weaker arm, but getting into it from the floor so that you won’t fall. This way, your weak arm will gain the strength to hold you, and then you can get into it by inverting on your ‘right’ side. Like fleur said though, it’s best to practice everything on both sides! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[azriel]

good luck on your finals fleur!! hope to catch you in chat later! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

[azriel]

hi hollydee and welcome to the site!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rendeer.gif
i normally would have recommended getting an x-pole due to the company’s excellent customer service, and the fact that it’s great quality, but from what i know they can’t be used on suspended ceilings https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif Other than that, your lil bat cave sounds like an awesome place for a pole room, so if you definately want it there, just be really sure that the pole you get can be Safely used on that type of ceiling! xx https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif

[azriel]

I think fleur gave the best advice for this! you could also try practicing new transitions and floor moves.. they’re just as important (both fitness and performance-wise), and you can never have too many of them! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_sunny.gif

[azriel]

ohhhh boooo! i was supposed have taken a half hour nap, but it turned out to be a 2.5 hour nap! now i have to go cook, so i’ll be on a lil later for chat!

[azriel]

Hi charley, it’s great to have you on the site with us!!!!! audio editing/engineering and guitar, and poling, you sound very artistic! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif

[azriel]

awww you’re such a busy girl, sascha, and good for you! see ya tomorrow in chat!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

[azriel]

haha thats sooooo funny they wouldn’t stop lighting, and he didn’t want to touch them!! LOL!!!!! i’m glad everything’s better now! i’m sure he’ll get used to it eventually.. doesn’t seem like he’s that close-minded, since you’re mom joked about it and all- he’s just playing his part, ya know, the father role https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)

[azriel]

welcome to the site! hope to catch you tomorrow in chat! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/alien.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/bom.gif

[azriel]

ok, 3rd time.. here’s what i wrote:
I totally understand how you feel that your parents (or just dad) don’t see pole-dancing that way, but can’t really blame them too much since pole-dancing as a fitness sport is so new, plus he’s your dad..so ya know https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
But it can be quite frustrating and really sucks when people have stereotypes about certain things!
If i were you, I’d just wear short shorts while practicing when he’s home.. you can do just about every move in short shorts, seriously! I’m 29 and even I won’t wear my 6" heels in front of my dad- not because he has the right to tell me not to (cause i know he would never tell me that), but just because there’s no need to cause him to worry, get upset, anxious, or raise his blood pressure LOL. It’s just something he won’t understand, DOESN’T NEED TO KNOW, so no point trying to persuade him.
I would just save them for when he’s not home.. But that’s just me.

Sometimes it’s just not worth the struggle to argue with parents or people that just won’t see things your way no matter what- they’re too predispositioned towards their own beliefs.

Hey, look at the bright side, at least he allow you to even have a pole in the house! i’ve heard stories where girls’ parents totally forbid even that!
But i guess if you can get away with it without a big arguement, or without it having a negative emotional consequence on you, then just go for it and keep making your statement!!! … otherwise, it’s just not worth the trouble, at least as long as your living under his roof https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif good luck!