Mindy4pole
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YoYo Ma, the great cello player said this:
"There is something so extraordinary about the way Isaac Stern physically carved phrases. He was never not hot-blooded, but he didn’t have overt sheen or vanity in his style of playing, so he made things count with less.
…Isaac Stern said, "In music it’s not about the notes, it’s what happens in between the notes.""
I believe that goes for dancing as well, where your body is your instrument. I’ve seen some pretty incredible moves done, but without the quality of spaces in between, the artistry is lost.
Mindy
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In a way I have found that dancing topless has actually helped with precision when it comes to poling. (There is nothing worse then getting pole burn on your girls).
SOOO — what is the secret to protecting them?? I have a tendency to lose my clothes when I’m dancing and into the music, but after several times of OUCH! I won’t do topless. Somehow I’ve caught my nipple in between my hand and the pole when inverting. Then you have the choice — let go and fall on your head, or slide down in pain. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif That’s a pretty big deterrent!
I haven’t been subjected to it personally since I’m not a stripper, but there does seem to be a certain contempt from some pole dancers toward strippers. Like I said, I don’t know why because the art of pole dancing came straight from the gentleman’s clubs, so if you have a love for pole dance, why would you basically dump all over its history? It wasn’t a couple of housewives that got together while their kids were playing on the playground and went ‘Hmmm, you know, it would be really cool if we hung upside down by just our legs from one of these poles. While taking off our shirts.’
LOL — I was out at a park a few weekends ago w/ my hubby and two year old (yes, I’m a housewife). While he was pushing her on the swings, I couldn’t help but invert onto a piece of play equipment and hang by my knees. I had to keep my hands on my belly to keep my shirt from coming off!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif We might not have done that first, but we’re doing it now!!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_razz.gif
Folks are folks, like other posters have said. There’s ones you like and ones you don’t in every situation. The side of stripping that bothers me is the sales. It is so easy to lose your self in a sales job – especially when you are explicitly selling your time. Everything becomes about getting the money, and ethics get, uh, revised as you go. NOTE: This is nothing unique to stripping.
Mindy
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Hey Erin — We’d love to have you!! The more the merrier!
Miss Julie — I might be able to make an Austin workshop. My in-laws live in San Antonio, and they would always love a visit. They don’t know about my poling yet, though! =)
Ahhhh… pole jam… I can’t wait!
Mindy
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Morning is a killer for me, so I always will vote for later.
I have a suggestion — we should dance FOR each other as well as with each other. Nothing fancy (unless you wanted to), just turn on some music, and have a couple of girls dance at once, and the rest watch. Rinse and repeat!
What do you think?
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June 19th at The Girls Room
ATTENDANCE:Gelina- yes
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Woo hoo! I’m definitely on board!! Just let me know when and where!
Thanks Gelina for stepping up and starting this!
Mindy
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Howdy! Welcome to Veena, you’ll love it!! I’m from Dallas, too. How long have you been poling?
Mindy
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Woohoo, go houston.
You have a lot of good dancers in the area, so you’re in luck! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
Not so many pole studios though, why is that?! WHY IS THAT, Texas!?! I’m from DFW, despite my current DC Location. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
I know of six studios in the DFW area!! =)
AND — WELCOME https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif solstice! I can’t wait to see pix or videos! This is a great site, you’ll love it. Hopefully, we’ll be organizing another Texas Pole Jam soon, and maybe you could come!
Mindy
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I don’t have this move yet, but I’m working on it. It doesn’t seem like it should be that hard… BUT IT IS!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_twisted.gif And my poor arm! OUCH! Sometimes I can do the spin fairly well, and it doesn’t hurt, but I can’t quite figure out how my body position is different.
One tip that helps me get it sometimes is to make sure I look at my feet when they are in the attitude-like position. This forces my body to curve around a little more.
This move looks so pretty and effortless when done right… Maybe one day, mine will too.
Oh — and check out the on in this video at 4:50: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlS_yoyDyuw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I really like the way she gets into the spin, and how controlled she is– oh and that she does it one handed!
Mindy
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Can you describe more about where the pain is? The sudden onset sounds like it is muscle related, but figuring out which one(s) are mad can be a little challenging! =) Were you doing anything different in the day or two before it started hurting? Take a hot bath, and that will probably help some. Also, you can try to put your leg into the position where it just starts to be uncomfortable. Then poke around on the thigh of the hurt leg. See if you can find any spots that change the sensation in your hip. Pay attention to see what muscles seem tight when you are in that position. Muscle pain is often referred, so a lot of times, the injury is somewhere other than where the pain is.
As for the bruising, I’m not sure about covering them up, but Arnica works great to get them to fade fast. You can find it at most grocery stores with the homeopathic. I’ve been really impressed with it. The sooner you start putting it on a banged area, the faster it heals. Oh, and the kind I have used is in a really light ointment with no oils to interfere with poling.
BEST OF LUCK!!
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Sigh… the monokinis are SOOOO cute… but they never fit me. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cry.gif I have to get several sized big to have them long enough, then they are too big everywhere else. If they fit on the top and bottom… Material is pulled all up into places it shouldn’t be!! Let’s just say it’s not pretty. Anyone else have this problem?
Mindy
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The tailbone pain doesn’t show up immediately for me, but I feel it the next day. What I found that helped was really squeezing my butt cheeks when I’m laying back. This plumps the muscles up enough so that they take the pressure of the pole, instead of my tailbone. For me, there is also an uncomfortable feeling/pain that centers in the tail bone area (right above my butt crack). I get it when I have overworked my glutes. You can rub them using a hard rubber ball against a wall — or, ideally, get someone else to rub them for you!
Good luck with your sore bottom! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_razz.gif
Mindy
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Oh yeah!!! I’ve been wanting to do this one for a while! I have the perfect song in mind.
Mindy
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I have this problem, too, and I use Sony Vegas Movie Studio. It’s also when I put on a music track. All my music is already in mp3. This is a frustrating problem…
Mindy
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Pantera — in Austin??? COOL!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
I’m planning on going to the TGR open house, but I can only stay for about half of it. I’m going to the Ani Difranco concert that night. (And I’m sooooooo excited!) https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_compress.gif
I hope to see you guys there!
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I hear you on the cycles thing. I have dabbled in so many different art/craft things. I cycle with my major obsessions, too, but those tend to be longer. I’ve found myself struggling w/ pole disinterest sometimes, and it really helps me to find something to challenge me. So, right now I’m doing "back-to-basics". I’m trying to understand the underlying forces in the moves I already know. That gives me something to focus my attention, and allow my obsession to run wild. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
One thing I would suggest, though, is embrace your seasons! Every time you come back to poling, you aren’t starting over. You body remembers, even if your progress isn’t as fast as you want.
Trying to work against your natural inclinations is a lot of effort, and you are fairly likely to fail. Instead, look at what result you want, and use your "weaknesses" to get there. I have a bit of a rebellious streak, so I’ve learned to make myself rules that help me when I break them. So, I’ll say to myself — "you are only allowed to pole for 20 minutes today." Then, if I do my 20 minutes and want to stop, I met my goal. But if I’m feeling a bit naughty, I end up doing the "just one more song" routine, and I end up poling for an hour!
Mindy
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I am a walking pole accident and am a very naughty girl.
THANK YOU for this post!!! It sounds like you push yourself hard, and you don’t think about caution, because you are so into what you are doing. Makes you an amazing dancer — but with the cost of more accidents. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
That means you know the real consequences of things. Ooooo! The hamstring one makes me cringe!!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif
But now I know not to do that!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gifYou’re too fun!
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I have worked a lot on being on my toes (I walk around that way at home whenever I think about it!) And yeah, I’ve had the problems with cramps too. Mine don’t tend to be in the foot itself, but rather in the calves. I don’t get the cramps when I’m actually working out much, but they happen when I’m sleeping. When it starts happening, I take a Magnesium supplement, and that seems to help.
I would guess that since your cramps are happening during the workout, it is probably just a muscle fatigue thing. One thing that really helps the foot muscles is to roll your foot over a small ball (like a golf ball). It will probably hurt some if the muscles are grumpy, but it will help stretch the muscles and keep them in good shape. Try the magnesium, too. It may or may not help, but it’s not likely to hurt you.
Be patient! You’ll get the foot/leg strength before you know it! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
Mindy
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Yes, Denielle Rueda-Watts is probably one of the best pole dancers I’ve seen! I so wish there was more material available with her on youtube or whatnot. She’s a great inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp09Bkh4ZVs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
HOLY S**T!! She is amazing!! Thanks so much for posting this. I love her musicality. And WTF!!! The move she did at 1:12… Anybody know what it is?
Mindy
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Welcome to the obsession!!!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
Pole has really changed my body. I’ve been poling a little over a year, and I have strong, toned arms, and a butt! I’ve never had much of a butt before, so that is way cool! I’ve also noticed a change in my pelvic tilt, and in the way my shoulders/chest work together. It’s kind of hard to say what happened first, though.
I pole daily a lot of the times (things have been crazy lately, so 4 x’s a week now), and it’s never caused me an issue. Since you are already fit, I think doing it daily would probably be ok… But do pay attention to your body and don’t let your enthusiasm get the best of you! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
You can also do aerobics type stuff w/ the pole. Dance around it, but don’t do any strength moves. Then you can still be poling, but in a less intensive way. My personal opinion is the best exercise is the one you’ll actually do!
Good luck!!
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I agree with the niche concept. What you have to sell is YOU — and no one is as good at that as you are! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif Think about the customers you want — who are they, where do they hang out, what do they do when they’re not poling. Then see how you can be in some of those places. Having a big school nearby can be a blessing. Being big has it’s disadvantages, too, and there will be plenty of people who like the location, but didn’t really like their experience at the big place. You give them an easy option to come to.
Remember that you ARE good at this. Don’t give up! Live your passion! People feel that.
BEST of luck!!!
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i think the only time you really "need" to do it hooked is when you’re going into an allegra
This is a GREAT point! I haven’t been able to get my arm into a strong enough position for the allegra, and I think that’s why.
I like the look of the ankle/thigh hold better, too — especially when you spiral down to the ground. I knew there must be some things that the knee pit did better, though. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_thumright.gif
Mindy
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A "nerdy" person — someone intelligent. A smart, playful conversation (especially on some obscure topic) is much sexier than how a person is built. I’m also a sucker for attention…
My big weakness is "looks like someone I loved". That gives me an interesting range!!
Mindy
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Well, it turns out that due to some extra circumstances, it was easy to make my decision about the coed party that’s happening tonight. I’m not going to go. My husband just started a new job and is working during the party and he can’t come with me. He’s uncomfortable with me going alone, and I assured him that I’d stay home. I guess that gives me until the next party to do some more self-exploration.
Loopy — I just wanted to point out something… You and your hubby prayed about the party… you were conflicted about the answer… And then "circumstances" happened that kept you from going. Sounds like God at work to me! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
Just keep praying about integrating your poling with your husband. Don’t worry! Trust that God is listening and will be with you to help you. Keep your ears and your heart open, and the way will become clear. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
Lots of love!
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We love you Veena!!! Hang in there.
<HUUUUUGS>
Mindy
