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Opinions on Rihanna’s Pour it up (Explicit) video
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Of course using a strong word like disgusting implies judgement. How we move from there to a place of constructive discussion ( like being able to answer the question of why was it disgusting exactly and then a cool back and forth) is the point, I think. Sorry I’ve been teaching all day. Ha ha.
This video is all about being in the club. Honestly I’ll take this one over Ludacris’ ” Tip Drill”. Now THAT I found disgusting. LOL.
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exactly BlackOrchid 🙂
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Black Orchid I meant judgment in the moral sense, as in “You must be morally inept a.k.a. a bad person if you pole dance, or like this or that style of pole dance”. As opposed to judging something to be not very sexy, or even disgusting. I think there’s a big difference between the two. I haven’t seen Ludacris’ Tip Drill Video. *resists urge to look it up*
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I knew what you meant, no worries ;). The word judgmental IS being used in both ways here and that’s ok as long as we can have a good back and forth about it. Save your eyeballs and skip “Tip Drill”, BTW.
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I ♥ strippers and sexy dancing.that’s not what I meant by disgusting. I just thought rihanna looked stupid doing it cause she doesn’t know anything about pole dancing except for what ever she was doing on that chair and her nasty floor humping. Which frankly I’d rather see a sexy stripper do than rihannas ratchet a$$. She should take herself out of that video and just leave the pole dancers. Rihanna=Miley=Nasty. And eww to the denim thong.
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^^^ all my opinion tho.
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LOL! Tell us how you feel about RiRi. So I read an interview with Nicole where she said they had to reshoot some stuff because Rihanna was a bit wasted on the first day. I also read somewhere else that she did teach Rihanna some basic pole work and she picked it up. My guess is that a lot of that was left on the cutting room floor.
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In the vid they did include a few beginner spins that Rihanna did. (I’m pretty certain the dancer with the baseball cap and long black hair is her) I saw her do a back hook spin and a knee spin. Being that it was her first pole lesson I think she did well. I couldn’t even get my legs off off the ground at all or do a fireman spin on my first lesson so I give her props.
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Also another interesting thing I’ve noticed that ties in with the OPs question is the overall public reaction which is pretty negative towards the Pour it Up video vs the very positive reaction to The audition tape (almost at 4mill and still climbing!!) I hope the pole world especially those who try to bar strippers from competing and denounce the exotic aspect of pole because they don’t want to be stigmatized or feel it drags down pole in the eyes of the public see that people will ultimately appreciate the skill of the individual. The proof is finally right here.
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I knew it!! I knew she was mollied out Miley style! Lol just hatin on Riri over here!
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One of the dancers in the video,”Secret Moneii” IS a stripper.
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I found this article fascinating. It gave me a different perspective on Rihanna’s choices for the video. http://thehairpin.com/2013/10/rihanna-on-my-mind
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So funny to me … Pour it up was our #1 requested song for classes and parties this past year. I guess it really depends on where you live and your market. We throw the fake money and everything. Rihanna has great music and you can dance to it. Sometimes I think people just need to relax, have fun,go with the flow and shake your ass a little. Lighten up!!!
But it does suck that she was wasted and they had to reshoot 🙁 I hope her fame does not lead her down a crappy path of drugs and alcohol.
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the song it self i dont care for,i dont listen to that kinda music really, i thought the video was low class to put it nicely,but its just my opinion.
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For so many adverse comments and reactions Rhianna sure is getting a lot of attention on SV..Im just saying!!
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*Is this the “Tip Drill” video you guys are talking about?
Whether it is or not…ew…I didn’t like Rihanna’s video either but at least it had cool pole moves. This is just…I don’t even have the words.*EDIT: I removed the link because having watched some more of it, I was concerned I might actually get in trouble with SV for posting something that was borderline pornographic! Sure I found Rihanna’s horrible denim thong arse-shaking a bit gross, but this was really disgusting. I consider myself to be pretty open minded but honestly…it’s like feminism never happened. (The video I saw was by Nelly, not Ludacris, so not sure if it was the same one that Black Orchid was referring to)
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I didn’t think anyone else knew the song tip drill. I bring it up all the time and everyone looks confused!
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Awesome video in my opinion. Everyone will use pole fitness (dancing) in their own way. I wish I could move as fluent & graceful as Nicole does. And to have the opportunity to be in a video that will help to promote me and my business, I am all for it. To each its own, I hope to be able to gain the skills that will allow me to go “viral”…LOL
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the video could have been cooler i wish they were in an actual club and made it rain. as for the song, it is sexual and about being in the strip club…idk why anyone is surprized at the way it turned out, what did you expect, rihanna fully covered head to toe? feminism is not about women being in control and ruling over men, its about equality for everyone. i just find it so hypocritical that women who pole dance are completlely upset by the way it was portrayed or try to separate themselves from exotic dancers, however they want pole dancing to be accepted but wont accept stripping as an honest occupation. how is rihanna expressing her sexuality a bad thing, what wrong can come from it…more women might do it??? if more women do it, it must be because they feel empowered and in control of their own body and sexuality. how can you expect people to respect your expression of sexuality if you wont do the same for others. twerking, or moving your hips, jirating, is not bad, your eyes wont explode…its kinda how we all got here
and for the person who made the comment about the carnival festival…shame on you for making a mockery of someones culture, including mine. we are all grown ass people, whats the big deal? -
kaygee if the feminism thing was referring to my comment, I was talking about Nelly’s Tip Drill video, not Rihanna’s. I had no problem with the pole dancing in her vid, the moves were impressive, I just found her denim thong and wiggling her business around with her legs in the air not to my taste 😛 The Tip Drill video is in a whole different league, and not in the least bit ’empowering’ it is literally just six minutes of scantily clad women being objectified by fully clothed men.
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I tell a lie, 7 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r67xcDqKQYoThe version I saw was the uncensored one, if you want to see that you can google it.
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the feminist comment wasnt a personal attack on character, and everyone is entitle to their own opinion. there are just so many forms of feminism that it cant be vaguely described. im a burlesque performer and have recently tried bikini dancing and im not ashamed of admitting that im a feminist nor that i dont care if ppl see my naked body, im from the carribean where women walk around topless and nobody gives a shit. just generally speaking, im just a big advocate for grown ass women expressing their sexuality/emotions/pride with their own body in whatever way they feel empowers and satisfying to them. i seen the tip drill video about 10 years ago when i was a teen, it was like watching porn. now i just think..well these women arent slaves they certainly didnt do it for free, this is no different than what happens in some strip clubs, or in porn. pornography is a legal occupation they didnt have to be there if they didnt want to. and nelly probably didnt make this video with the intent to please all his female friends. but imagine if the roles in that video were reversed..lol imagine how ppl would react. i guess im just not really bothered by explicity. im sorry if you felt that it was a personal attack, you cant necessarily interpret tones and expressions of feelings over the internet, but i am a very opinionated individual and i say how i feel.
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I didn’t think it was a personal attack so no worries, just thought perhaps you misunderstood my comment. My problem with the Tip Drill video isn’t necessarily with the women themselves, as you say they’re doing it of their own free will and were presumably paid a fair amount for it, but the video itself I found quite horrible to watch and I found it far from ’empowering’ – in my opinion that word is thrown around too much these days. I never had an opinion of Nelly before but seeing that video has made up my mind! Anyhow this thread is about Rihanna’s video and now we’re off topic, so I’ll leave it at that.
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