skramamme
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So it’s basically a version of this
Just a slight variation is the leg placement which makes it so that you need to make sure your shorts have everything contained as your crotch is a main point of focus hahaha
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extended leg side spin pole dancing - Google Search
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You have it in your tutorials but I cant remember it now ffs I am really stressed out that i can’t remember the name 🙁
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No, it’s quite different. Of course now I can’t find the name of it. But you’re standing upright, you hook one leg up around hip height and have one hand below that leg, the other above. You then allow your body weight to fall forward and down (almost leading with the shoulders) which sweeps the outer leg around…
Completely different from either a forward or backwards hook spin
And it’s def not an extended leg side spin argh Im so freaking annoyed I cant find it now!
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This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by skramamme.
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I think it’s an extended leg side spin
Ugh, falling forward is awful
Thankfully I am not strong enough to try it hahahha
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I have battled depression and anxiety my whole life (Like, I literally remember being 6-7 years old and self harming).
Im 44 now and am having a really hard time with getting on top of my anxiety, depression as well as the medication and the associated weight gain… I’ve been so stuck 😕
I just reset my 30 Day Take Off and am trying very hard to move forward but the amount of self loathing I feel about my body and all the weight I have gained since my surgeries… I’m definitely finding it difficult some days just to get out of my pj’s.
Im online all the time (although Australian time zone) and am always happy to lend an ear because I really can empathise (I might as well use my insight for something good ðŸ‘)
All I can say is baby steps, that’s what I have to remind myself of all the time because it’s so easy to only see the big picture and feel as if it’s just hopeless, like I’ll never get anywhere. So trying to take things back to the smallest components sometimes helps me to refocus on the here and now, which in turn helps me not feel so totally overwhelmed and frozen by the anxiety of it all.
Sorry if I can’t be of more help, but I am here and you’re definitely not alone 💗💖💜
Sending you hugs from Oz 🙋👩â€â¤ï¸â€ðŸ‘©ðŸ’žðŸ’Œ Emma xox -
BabyDragon haha yes! The bored girls mucking around on the poles early in the night before it gets busy or when it’s just a quiet night. That’s how I learned the few tricks I used.
I can’t imagine trying out something new in front of a crowd, it really is one of those things where the girls get bored and bust out some moves to while away the time 🙂
And yeah, you generally don’t see heaps of gymnastic-type pole work, the crowd don’t know enough to understand which moves are amazingly difficult or relatively easy- they tend to be impressed by basic laybacks and drop splits.
You won’t make much money if you’re suspended half way up the pole for the entire song, so floor work is really important.
I’m too old to work in the industry any more (44 in August) but boy, there are times where I miss it a lot, the friends you make and the laughs and drama of the dressing room, comparing notes on which customers are worth talking to and which ones are complete douchebags or time wasters… ahh memories 😉 -
Not sure how things are i9n America but I worked for around 12 years as a stripper/dancer.
IME they will generally hire anyone if you’re in reasonable shape and o.k looking. You don’t need to be stunning (makeup and low lighting are wonderful things haha), super skinny or anything- remember that guys like all sizes. So a voluptuous gal can do just as well as a very slender gal or anyone in between.
As for pole work, if you’re in it to make money then pole work will be a very small part of your job- you need to engage with the customers, so a few tricks may gain their attention but eye contact, a smile and sexy floorwork is what will get them tipping.
But you make the majority of your money from lap dances.
Where I live there are pretty strict rules- we get completely naked but there is *no* touching by the customers and no grinding or anything like that. They basically pay to get themselves frustrated… I never understood it but hey, it was fun and helped me through a very difficult time in my life where “straight work” wasn’t possible for me.
Hope that helps but my suggestion is to ask around where you want to work, go to a few clubs and get a feel for them- some are shite and skeezy and not nice to work in, others are really lush and flashy and tend to attract bigger crowds, but at the end of the day it’s your ability to hustle that will make you a success. -
I gotta say, the booty shake has eluded me completely so far- I can get the backs of my legs to relax but my bum will not do it.
I can tighten each side of my bum when standing or seated, so I know how to engage my glutes, but have no idea how to disengage them :p
I did the side splits routine yesterday- I was really pleased at how flexible I am in some areas (like the frog stretch etc) so might try the middle splits today.
And I’ve roped a friend who is handy with building stuff to make me some parallettes like these so I can work on obtaining an L-sit
But yeah, I won’t be doing any pole work today because the right side of my neck and traps feels pretty crappy, even with voltarin and a heat pack.
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I’m bi, although these days I’m more like ~forever alone~ hahaha
(seriously though, it’s been 7 years since I’ve had any activity in the “grown up” parts of my life). -
I’m interested in this stretching aid which somehow can work as a partner would in some stretches- it’s used a lot for soccer, martial arts, ice hockey as well as cheer leading stuff
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*leading with my *left* leg
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Thanks Lucca- yes, I meant to reply to your earlier comment, my apologies. Ahh hip fractures, fun times hey 😉
I will definitely give them a go. My biggest issue is being able to lift my knee up, it’s like I lock out a few inches above the ground, and although it’s very specific my left leg is definitely weaker overall.
I must say, trying to do fan kicks yesterday was interesting leading with my leg, though it’s fine leading with my right leg… go figure.
I am having a cortisone injection with some anesthetic into the tendon soon which will allow us to see if pain is contributing to limiting the tendon contracting or if it’s straight up weakness.
The worst thing is that I can feel the tendon “skipping” over the plating/bone shelf and you can even see it if I am lying down and lift my leg straight up. It is not a nice feeling *shudder*
Thanks again, I will let you know how I go with them.
And yes, I should be careful overstretching- having EDS and such flexible joints (my thumbs especially for some reason) means that sometimes I go too far without realising it- like my ligaments have the stretchiness but the muscle strength isn’t there to stabilise and support the flexibility, so definitely something I should show some more caution with (but probably won’t lol).
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As an ex stripper thank you Tesar for your thoughtful words…
I *wish* I could go back to it right now because I am between work and poor, raising a kid etc. It was the ideal job when I was a younger woman as I was able to work around my depression/bipolar, whereas straight jobs don’t give you that sort of flexibility.
And while there were douchebags at work sometimes I also met amazing women and loved much of it too.
Why we feel the need to police women’s sexuality, or potential sexuality, is beyond me (well, I know why we do… hello patriarchy) but still, it gets old fast. -
And that’s the last I am going to discuss the topic here- Lucy at Bishonenrancher is a much better source of information for anyone who is curious about corsets and the pro’s and con’s of responsible corset wearing, waist training and/or tightlacing (her piece on how corsets can help heal is great reading).
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I was a powerlifter for quite a few years, so I know about using intra-abdominal pressure to help stabilise the core when engaging in heavy lifting
As for diaphram constriction, it really depends on the type of corset. I prefer cupped rib styles, which literally only cinch in at the waist and cup both the ribcage and hips. They actually don’t impede my normal breathing at all.
Other people prefer to use more conical shaped corsets which can, over many years, change the shape of the floating ribs to a small degree but it isn’t a lasting change as they revert back to their true shape after time. And they can reduce the ability to belly breathe, which is why it’s not recommended to corset if you have a cold etc. But a lot of that comes down to research and responsible use of a corset.
Personally, I use corsets for a variety of reasons, the *least* of them being aesthetics.
And I never said that wearing a corset 24/7 was an ideal for anyone to aim for, I don’t think it’s a decision to be taken lightly and it *is* a form of body modification that requires a lot of information and due diligence to do safely.
There’s a lot of misinformation out there about corsets and I did a lot of research on before I ever even considered investing in one. Perhaps you could read up on some of the positives of corsetting (including the benefits of corsetting for things like anxiety, eating disorders, MtF transitioning and so on) instead of condemning the whole thing without actually understanding the benefits it can provide.
Interestingly, corsets have actually helped me learn belly breathing because I can feel what it’s supposed to feel like. They have also helped me with my bulimic tendencies and anxiety as well as improving my posture a lot in a short period of time (I was really surprised).
It’s also helped to teach my what it feels like to sit upright and actually worked both my abs and back muscles simply by sitting correctly- I tend to wear it primarily when using the computer because it helps to prevent me switching off my awareness and slouching. And when I take it off I notice I sit up more when driving to the point that I have to adjust my seat.
I also find I can sit upright on things like backless benches without so much discomfort and slouching since using my corsets (that is, I am sitting more upright *without* wearing my corset) so somehow it’s helping to make me aware of the sensation of proper posture and… activating? awakening? the muscles needed to do so. I’m not exactly sure what the mechanism is behind it, but that is the result, which is a good thing imho.
If you have any interest in the experiences of those who practice waist training and tight lacing then I suggest checking out Lucy’s Corsetry as she takes a very science based approach to things and is a pretty amazing person in general. -
Phoenix- I have big ribs, so I’m lucky most OTR fit ok. I’m just not squishy which makes cinching harder.
But I’m the same in that no matter how small I get I don’t get a waist- my current waist s only 2″ smaller than my underbust and, even when I was anorexic (I also had no period for 2 around years) I still never had a curvy torso, very straight up and down. I’m like 38/32/36… hardly hourglass.When people ask me if I have trouble breathing when I wear my corset I point out that a) my lungs aren’t in my waist and b) pregnancy moves the internal organs around far more than corsets, so our internal organs are designed to move and shift.
Also, corsets weren’t a way of oppressing women, they developed from Stays which helped to support the very heavy weight of the clothes women wore back then, which put an enormous amount of stress on the back.
They also helped to support the breasts as bras weren’t invented yet.
Tightlacing or cinching in the waist significantly didn’t start until much later (the Victorian era IIRC) and again, corsets actually helped women with the weight of all those layers.
Also, fainting rarely comes about as a result of corset wearing. Back in the day it was the done thing to be seen as fragile and it was a handy way to either gain attention from a beau or to avoid confrontation by having a ~fainting spell~.
The move against corsets was started, in part, by manufacturing businesses who were trying to introduce the girdle, so there was a conflict of interest and those famous x-rays weren’t particularly precise as even the Dr acknowledged that the women was wearing the corset much higher than she normally would.
As for broken ribs and split livers, pish posh- it’s all urban legends (as is the myth that you can have your floating ribs removed to get a smaller waist). -
Oh Hai fellow tightlacer! Hey 🙂 I have a couple of mesh cs-411’s from orchard corset and they’re great, but my dream is a handmade one from contour corsets because she specialises in asymetrical designs.
I also really like a cupped rib rather than a connical rib, like sugar kitty’s corsets (she doesn’t make them any more though). Madame Sher also has some stunners. But $400+ is a lot of dough.
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Thanks Phoenix- I reckon some of it is bound to be tightness.
I haven’t had a massage in over 10+ years (I’m not very touchy-feely and just forget they’re good for you) even when I was doing crossfit and during my surgeries- I’m sure 1 1/2 years on crutches probably screwed up things a bit too.
I have really big lats and a naturally strong back but have always had a hard time building my shoulders (although my triceps always build up easily). I guess we all have a couple of areas that are slower to develop than others. -
Also, my corset helps a lot with anxiety (you feel contained, physically wrapped) and it can even help with rectus distatsis or even worse- there are quite a few medical applications aside from helping with scoliosis.
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I’m not going to get into a debate about corsets but the vast majority of the info out there is incorrect 1900’s rubbish. Lucy, from bisonenrancher on youtube, is one of the best sources of reliable science based info out there for anyone interested.
I used to wear a brace to help my scoliosis, my corset does the same thing. I specifically do core exercises (normally, not the last few years obviously with a fractured pelvis etc) to maintain my core strength.
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Thanks everyone, I think I might risk the 48 inch ones.
And I feel your pain Phoenix, I find it hard not to feel super down about my body the way it is right now (although my boobs look amazing haha) but I am definitely already seeing real changes in my strength which is super encouraging 🙂
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Lucca which ones are they? I clicked the link but only got their main page… I have heard that the body wrapper 40″ leg warmers are very tight around the thigh if you’re not very thin (and I have muscly legs) but I really want a pair of super long leg warmers that do stay up.
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I don’t have any scales at home because I’m a recovered anorexic so it’s way (weigh haha) too triggering.
I was weighed at my Dr’s because I could see how much weight I had gained and couldn’t fit in to any of my normal clothes, so we decided to see if I had gained as much as I had feared and it was actually worse.
I know muscle mass will weigh more, I always go by body fat because that’s what I care about, I just happen to know that I am in the mid 60’s rather than mid 50’s (kg) weight wise. -
“And because I KNOW what body type he is USED to seeing without clothes on, I KNOW I don’t measure up to those standards and I will be a huge letdown.. ”
Personally? Don’t do it.
Seriously, it doesn’t sound like you’re into it at all, and I don’t mean that in a bad way, I mean that in a “why put yourself in a situation that makes you unhappy and stressed” way.
You are setting your expectations so low, you aren’t going to feel good about yourself going into it feeling like this, so why push it? Wait until you have some more confidence and aren’t so down on yourself.
Pole dancing is about letting go in many ways and, unless you’re dancing for work (which I assume you’re not) it’s something you should be doing for yourself and the enjoyment of it.
I don’t understand why you are pushing yourself to do something that seems to be making you so unhappy with yourself. It makes me feel really sad 🙁
