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See, I don’t think elbow grip / forearm grip ayesha transfer to split grip that well. I can’t do elbow grip (it is scary af!), and I can do forearm grip but find it really difficult to balance, but I’m super comfy in split grip (normal and cup) and could hang out there all day hahaha.
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yep, you need to have a pretty solid ayesha, and inverted pencil. You should also have a solid caterpillar.
I wouldn’t say so much inverted D, because I think that’s made a bit easier by having your feet on the pole to help you balance, whereas ayesha and inverted pencil are all core strength, and balance.It took me about a year to get my normal grip handspring, then another 10 months to get cup grip. I train with people who still can’t get cup grip – I think this is definitely the hardest of the three grips, but I know some people who found cup grip easiest (ex-gymnast) so it is (like most things) based on the individual to some degree.
Case in point, I had shoulder mounts years before I could handspring, whereas Phoenix said handspring helped her get shouldermount.
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I don’t do twisted grip handspring, because my shoulders aren’t flexible enough to control that dynamic strength needed for the handspring.
However, I am fine with coming down the pole into twisted grip ayesha from an inside leg hang, and I’m fine with twisted grip shoulder mount (and twisted grip butterfly).Just do what’s right for your body. If that means avoiding tg then that’s fine. If everyone else is doing twisted grip handspring, then just stick to normal grip or cup grip handspring. I’ve found it’s pretty unlikely that there’s a move where you NEED to have TG handspring to move into a different move, and if there is, there’s almost always another way to get into it.
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Once you start getting into advanced moves, there are some I wouldn’t try without a spotter. A good spotter should definitely be able to catch you, or at the very least manipulate you so you land safely.
I have always attended a studio, but I did have lessons on here as a supplement, and I thought they were great. Sometimes it helps to have things explained in a different way – for instance, when I was learning Ayesha, I just could not get it. I watched Veena’s lesson one day at home while practicing and she said something like “Now, do this to try and find your balance” and it was like a light bulb went off in my head and I realised I need to balance in the move! (I mean, obviously, but we all have those light bulb moments haha)
The lessons on here are great – whether you’re already at a studio or not 🙂
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Your collarbone shouldn’t really be making any contact with the pole in a shoulder mount. With the initial pull, the pole should be on your trap and shoulder, and then if you go into crucifix, you should sort of push away from the pole once your legs are safely on.
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If the pole is tight enough it won’t slip, it’s really that simple. When first putting it up you will need to tighten it every few days, and like skyember said, check it before each practice. Things like carpet decompressing, or ceilings flexing with the temperature can alter how secure the pole is.
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True! I always forget about that Lucca!
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I don’t think you need to be strong to use spinning pole. In Australia, it’s pretty normal for everyone to learn on spin. We generally start with lots of ‘easy’ spins, such as fireman, front and back hook and just climbing. You’ll get strong using a spinny pole for these types of moves. How fast you spin depends on how hard you kick off with the bottom foot, so you can start with virtually no spin and then build up when you’re comfortable.
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I have those same spots RedAmber 🙁 I’m not sure what they are either, but really hoping it’s not rust 🙁 Let us know if you find out!
At the studio I go to, and at home we use methylated spirits to clean brass. I loved window cleaner for my chrome pole, but metho is great for brass! -
And even if you fall out of Janeiro, you almost always land on your feet!
But I can now see what you mean about reversed meathook. I’ll have to try that one! -
oh interesting! That looks like a hip and armpit hold?
I don’t think Janeiro would be like this, because Janeiro your back is against the pole and your bending the other way – it’s more balance, rather than multiple points of contact, which is what the reverse meathook looks like? -
Ooooh what is a reverse meathook!?
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Janeiro is a bit of a backbend, so you will need more than “normal flexibility” to get it. Normal being in terms of the everyday person flexibility. If you’ve got a pretty solid bridge, you should be fine (maybe someone can weigh in on this – I have a solid bridge but still find Janeiro difficult)
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Janeiro is super confusing, and I think the trick is in the backbend/twist. You really need to push your back into the pole, but kind of curve your body and twist your chest out.
It’s also dependent on how high your inside arm is, because it creates a “ledge” for your leg to rest on, you want it to be higher than you think.I have also been told it is easier to get it from a brass money coming down from a CAR (rather than a CKR) because your arm is already high, although I prefer to do it from a CKR and adjust my arm (I say this, but I still can’t get it either).
You should video yourself – it is amazing being able to see yourself from a different perspective, sometimes that’s all it takes to work out what you’re doing wrong!
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I had the non-vaulted mount on a wooden beam that wasn’t level and had no problems.
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I haven’t done it, but was thinking about it because my chrome pole rusted. I’m interested in what people have to say about that if anyone’s had it done.
Most poles at playgrounds, on trains, handrails etc are powder coated! If they’re funky colours (yellow, blue etc) then they’re powder coated – so you can get some idea of how grippy they are. -
Pussycat poles only used to offer permanent options, so I never considered purchasing one from them, and x-pole were much better suited to my needs.
However, one of the studios at the studio I go to use Pussycat Poles and they’re great! They spin really fast though… (can also be locked out, they just spin faster than other poles I’ve used) -
I got my handspring the other week after working on it for almost two years!! That was a huge victory for me, especially after coming back from a broken wrist! After having so much time off I’ve lost a lot of strength and moves that were once easy for me (caterpillar etc) are now really difficult, so it feels so good to accomplish a new move!
BabyDragon – the EG Ayesha is seriously impressive – well done!!
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I think for most transition moves you need the short version because there’s the gap between your knee and the pole.
I think the long version is prettier, but the short version is a lot more versatile. the short version also hurts a lot more…but I have just come to accept almost everything in pole hurts haha.
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My chrome pole rusted too. Xpole suggested I upgrade to brass , which I did and that is also now showing signs of rust. (And brass isn’t supposed to rust so I’m skeptical that it’s solid brass like they claim)
If you search the forums here so many people have experienced rusting, which I really think xpole should advise of. I’ve spent over $1000 on my poles so it’s very disappointing.
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I had this issue and it was the top adapter grinding against the top dome. I had an xpole technician come out and confirm this. He fixed it by slipping some washers over the top adapter, before attaching the top dome and that fixed it!
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It really does suck!
I was really lucky, I didn’t have to get surgery, as the bones didn’t move out of place. I am so thankful for that, because like you say – recovery would have been so much longer. I am so sorry that your break was so bad that you needed plates and screws!
When you say you started putting weight on it, what do you mean by this?
The orthopaedic specialist said it will be three months post-cast until I can flex my hand backwards (as in handstand wrist position) and put weight on it. She said my range of motion will be limited at first, but with physio rehab it will be back to normal.
Are you able to use like “baseball grip” type movements on the pole? And how long did it take you until you were strong enough to do that?It’s just so frustrating to have progressed so much in the past year and now be set back heaps 🙁
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Wondering how you’re going with your arm frenchhornprof?
I fell from a ragdoll spin at the beginning of the month and broke my wrist 🙁
I have tried to keep up with physical activity since I broke it, and worked on leg flexibility. I get my cast off in mid-January. The orthopaedic doctor at the hospital told me it would be three months post-cast until I could do any activities that put stress on my arm in a flexed position (so that eliminates most “push/pull” pole movements and handstands wahhhh!) -
They probably used TG, because Twisted grip is very common here in Australia. split grip wouldn’t work because you’re in front of the pole, not to the side. cup grip would work, and was probably the alternative given 🙂
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Veena, the hitch kick is just a kicking motion with the legs, with your arms in the TG position. You’re not kicking into an invert or kicking into any other move…. the kick is the move itself. A lot of the time the hitch kick is taken into a slide on the floor.
msusagi, you shouldn’t have any pain at all… and your arm shouldn’t be under any strain. If you’re feeling pain you should let your teacher know so that they can correct your form if it’s out, or come up with a more hand position for you 🙂
