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*sigh* I just have a feeling brass would be too sticky so I’m hoping the TG is a good alternative. And like I said grip-aids are out of the question because I pole in static.

Grip aids aren’t for static SPINS, that’s what we were talking about in chat, you will rip up your hands….but you can use grip aid for tricks if you want.

I use grip aides for static and spinning pole, tricks and spins alike. My hands are always moist, even if the rest of my body is dry. I can usually get away with one or two spins immediately after I wash my hands, but then it’s slip city from there on. I have a TG pole and I have also poled on brass. I personally find them very comparable to each other. I think everyone’s body chemistry is different, so you’ll have to play with different options until you find one that works for you. Also, there are gloves you can buy that are supposed to be helpful if you do not like grip aides. I’ve never tried them though so can’t comment on them. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_thumleft.gif

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My BF doesn’t really care for my pole-dancing either. I think he liked the idea before I bought a pole, but as soon as he realized that it was more for exercise and fitness, and not for seducing him, he lost all interest! Now, I can barely get him to spot me when I practice new moves, or even watch me when I want to show him a new skill. But, that’s what the forums and YT are great for! I have my pole buddies to talk to about it. Likewise, he has his own hobbies that I don’t really care about, and he has buddies to share those with. It’s okay to have different hobbies and interests from each other, as long we are both respectful of each other.

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Runemist-
In that video, what she neglected to say, is that while your hands are gripping the pole, you should be pulling the with your arms as if you are trying to pull your shoulder into the pole, and also pushing your shoulder against the pole at the same time. If you would like to practice this grip without risking falling, I would suggest doing it from the floor. Sit on the floor with your hips flexed at a 30-45 degree angle with your shoulder leaning against the pole. With your hands in the position, pull the pole into your shoulder as you lift your legs into a straddle and attempt to lift your butt off the floor. This will help you to get an idea of how much strength is needed to execute the move and it will also help you gain the core strength you’ll need to do it successfully.

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I don’t consider myself to have any dance background, even though I was briefly enrolled in dance/gymnastics as a child. But that was too long ago for me to even remember! I know, because my mom has pictures of me in class. When I asked her why she took me out of dance, she said that I never paid any attention as I was too busy looking at my reflection in the mirror! hahahahahaha… I love going out dancing at the bar, but I am not very much of a graceful or sensual dancer. I decided to get into pole dance because I liked the idea of all the upper body exercise I could get out of it, and I like the idea of going upside down on the pole. In the beginning, all I cared about was learning the tricks, but I have since became more interested in the dance aspect of it. I can say that since I’ve started poling, my dance style has changed in that I am more aware of my body and movements when I am dancing on a dance floor. I am slowly getting more comfortable with freestyling around the pole, and even if I don’t think it’s worth anyone else’s watching, I feel a great personal benefit from having some private dance time with my pole. So, I think you should go for it! It’s totally worth it for the physical and mental benefits.

[Jenn]

Its not much of a "drop" per se, but I like to go into an advanced plank and then drop my bottom arm off the pole and fall into the CAR.

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TBH, why would some perv go through the process of signing up for a membership when he can just go to any public video website, i.e. youtube and watch the videos there? If you are really that worried about people viewing your videos you can always upload them to a private host such as photobucket and then email only the people you wish to view them the link. SV does provides private messaging between members.

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Initally, I used dish soap and water to cleanmy chrome Xpolel, but it it did not alleviate the slipperyness. Then, I used acteone and it stripped the pole of all that slippery gunk like a charm. Alcohol is good for removing oils left on the pole from your hands/body and sanitizing it, but I find cleaning once a month with soap and water or acetone really helps clear the build up. Btw, I have never used acetone on my TG, so am not sure if that is bad for the coating or not.

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So I got my conversion kit yesterday. Mine came with no instructions, so I had to e-mail Kimara at X-Pole US to find out how to get started. Then it took about an hour of twisting and unscrewing and rescrewing and hoping I wasn’t doing permanent damage to my pole to get it up. The upgrade section replaces Main Pole A and (depending on your model X-Pole) the little spinny base section. You also no longer need the large spanner (wrench) in the tool case either. The upgrade goes directly onto the main base and attaches just like the old piece. The screws on the bottom are still how you change between static and spin mode too. Main Pole B then screws on top of the upgrade section. Any extensions then go on top of that. There’s now a little adapter piece with a peg that fits into the upper dome that screws on top of the extension. The dome goes on that. Now, in order to adjust the height and snug the pole to the ceiling, there’s an adjuster cover near the bottom of the upgrade section that screws into place. That gets unscrewed and then there are three screws on the pole that you loosen with the hex key. This allows the pole to screw to adjust. Once the dome is flat and the pole secure, turn the pole so that the three screws line up with the flat spots on the adjuster and tighten them down. This keeps the pole from unscrewing while dancing on it. Then slide up the adjuster cover, screw into place and start dancing. Now that I know where everything is and what goes where, I imagine next time set-up will go much easier. One thing I noticed was to be very sure that the dome is flat and tight against the ceiling. It’s harder to tell now that it’s no longer eye-level. Also, I still needed a step-stool to put the extension on top, but the little kitchen one was quite high enough, so no need to dig out the ladder.

Thanks for the description! Is there any way you can post some pictures? I am having a hard time visualizing all of this! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif

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I use my hairdryer for a quick fix https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

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.. or maybe you should just have one of each! I have been wanting to get a smaller diameter pole myself for a while, but I don’t want to give up my TG 50mm. At one point I had a chrome 50mm as well, but I sold it. And now I miss it, even though I didn’t like it when I had it! I think poles are kinda like shoes, you can’t have just one pair, it will never suit all your needs!

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I don’t think its related to my camera, because when I play it on my computer its clear and also it was clear when I uploaded it to YT. It may have lost some resolution once I uploaded to SV maybe, but not really sure why that happened. Thanks for you advice though.

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Awesome! Thanks Mon, I may take you up on that! BTW, did you get my mesg about the next meetup?

[Jenn]

I love webstwe’s videos! Another good youtube profile to check out, is corbyoconner (http://www.youtube.com/user/corbyOconnor). She also takes lessons at the Brassy Butterfly and is a really good dancer. One of my favorite pole dancers works there as an instructer, Starrgrrrl (http://www.youtube.com/starrgrrrl). I took lessons from her when when I flew out there to visit Portland. While I was visiting, we stopped in at a strip club and I noticed that the girls on stage would clack their heels every so often. I thought it was so cool, and it did grab my attention! I thought it was just a Portland area thing, but I guess it is something that a lot of dancers do.

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yippee!!! Good for you!

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I got the email too. If you are on the mailing list then you would have a recieved a code. It expires Dec 2.

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I don’t know if Allegra even knew the move was named after her until recently. I had posted a comment on Bertysbooboo’s youtube video referring to it as the Allegra, and in the comment I referenced Alethea’s video because that’s how I found out the name of the move. Then a couple of hours later, Allegra herself messaged me asking about the move and wanting a link to Alethea’s video. I am guessing she was not aware that there was move named after her.

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Does it have to be a multi piece? PS makes a one piece skinny removeable pole, in addition to the new extreme multi piece poles. Also, check out Craigslist or Ebay for used poles. I see used ones for pretty cheap on sale from time to time.

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PS makes a removeable pole with a vaulted ceiling adapter. I find the PS poles are way easier to erect than the Xpole because the top plate is much lighter and smaller. The overall quality is about the same. I have never worked with Lil Minx but I have heard of the bolt eating through the joist over time, and I also heard their stainless steel is not as grippy as PS stainless or Xpole’s chrome. If I were you, I’d go for the PS with a ceiling adapter, that way you would have a lot more freedom on where to place it in your room. You are so lucky to have such high ceilings!

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I’d like to know who created the move – I actually thought it was Karol but after some sleuth work across forums I found some older references to the combination.

As far as I can find out this is not a named move but a combination. any info?

Ozzy was doing it back when she visited us last year on a spinning pole and then she slowly lowered herself down. I also remember TriplexBexx doing it in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBJDDU9a5Sc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; posted in May. I think its been around for a while, just hasn’t gotten lots of attention til now.

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I can’t find your videos either… https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif But congrats on your win!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif

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Does she have the new Extreme Pole? That’s what picture your link went to. Those are really new poles, just released in September. I wonder why she is selling it so soon. I was thinking of purchasing one myself, but would like to see it in action and hear others reviews first. Please let me know how you get on with it.

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My pole does that too, but it only rotates a small amount so it really doesn’t bother with my practices. I usually have to re-tighten the screws maybe once or twice each practice. If it bothers you too much, you could probably get a replacement part from X pole. They have wonderful customer service. They had once replaced my TG A pole for free, because the TG coating had been stripped off after a short time of use. They had also replaced my dome because the spin option was being wonky.

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I am working on this one too, It hurts too much to let go!

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Oooh, I just saw a video of Jenyne doing the move perfectly to show you how its done. Bertsbooboo just posted it on youtube! here is the link… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aufi4W8J8Ng&feature=sub. Look for it @ 3:14.

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Are you walking around the pole to gain speed and reaching out wide with your outside leg? I notice that beginners tend to fear reaching out far when going into spins. They tend to hug the pole too quickly, cutting off any momentum. When I do my spins, I really speed up and get out as far as I can and that gets it going. As you gain strength in your grip you will be better able to control your spins by loosening/tightening your grip on the pole. Don’t worry, just keep practicing, you will get there in no time!