
Charley
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I do mixed ability/level classes and we hardly ever do choreo. What’s great about this is we start class on our poles after warm up and we all work together on simple movements like pirouetting, booty wiggles, body wiggles, getting up and down from the floor. I tell you what moves to do so we all work together, then move on to tricks for each level – while I am working with one level the other level is free to work on moves they already know and play with the moves we used in the beginning of class. This is nice because you don’t feel the rooms eyes on you and there is no counting – just you moving with the music how you want.
Pole dance doesn’t require you to dance with the beat, you can also dance with the undercurrent.
There is some learned squencing for example my intermediates (8-12 weeks in plus additional hour long classes 1x weekly) are working on the pole sit, x knee and wrist sit. That is their "power move" for their level this session. MOST places will teach in combinations like that or segments.
MAKE sure wherever you go they know to spot you, give you boosts, lifts, and that they have you working low to the floor. MAKE sure they teach you for your level and don’t push you past a comfort zone. I have girls who only dance about half of class time – THAT IS FINE! If you’re tired you need to be able to sit out and have some water. There should never be a push to over do it. Also be sure you are given ample practice time and review.
Make sure they pay attention to YOU. For example I have 2 intermediates – once who climbs lovely! The other is still struggling with the mechanics and uses the soles of her feet. So the one who is still trying to understnad what her body is doing is only allowed to climb wearing shoes of some sort so she cannot rely on her soles – which is what is making climbing so hard for her. Your instructor should know all your strengths and weaknesses, she should know everyone’s. The studio should be keeping a file on each student so that if you get a new instructor or a sub she knows where you are and what you need to work on and ofcourse make you do all the things you do perfectly to bring out that diva dancer!
I know this is long but I hope it helps. I have a hard time being breif about teaching. I love it too much.
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Charley
MemberSeptember 13, 2009 at 3:39 pm in reply to: Happy Birthday to The Pole Goddess Herself!Happy Birthday Veena! I hope your day was spectacular!!!!
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C&S is pretty pricey but I trust Wendy to have put together something very comprehensive.
I feel like pole is similar to gymnastics and I would want to be certified through someone who understands that element as well as the dancer element (ballet or modern or something like that.) I don’t care if someone was ever an exotic dancer – I care that someone cares enough to provide me the knowledge of the human body, the way the body works, the way our body responds to injury, over stretching, over doing it, under doing it and the way our muscles remember movement. I’d also like to train with someone who is proficient in trouble shooting and can tell me the difficulties of teaching a move, of the student understanding the move and taking it to completion. I’d also like someone who has studied pole movement from the ground up and can help me put moves in a comprehensive grouping or order that makes sense to the students body and mind.
I think Wendy’s program probably covers that stuff but it is a lot of money and I won’t be able to do it anytime soon but I do hope programs like what I have described above do become more available to the public and are truly comprehensive. Wendy has a fitness background personal training to the stars for 15 years as well as a performance, dance and gymnasitc background. I really think her program could be perfect but it’s too much.
I really hope exotic dancers and non exotic dancers can at some point marry in the middle. There is still a little too much separation of the two it feels like. Schools put together by exotic dancers look down on those who aren’t dancers and schools by fitness professionals look down on exotic dancers. AS long as you are SAFE it doesn’t matter and until we can all agree on what pole IS certs will continue to be expensive and there will be rivalries between schools of thought.
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Charley
MemberSeptember 10, 2009 at 11:49 am in reply to: It’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to……Happy Birthday!!!!!
I just turned 29 too – 8/25 – and honestly I had a blast. It’s the last year of your 20’s so rock it out! Then next year is huge because it’s the first year of your 30’s – rock it out!
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I am so happy to see the stars gone! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
Thanks V! We didn’t ever need them. I am surprised to hear that people were leaving negative comments HERE and rating videos low. So sad. I have this happen a lot of YT and figured I deserved the lower ratings but here I’m shocked! I’m glad the ratings are gone.
I think videos should be for feedback – real feedback, help and encouragement so not having the stars forces us to write something -even it it’s short and connect with someone else – I like it!
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Q and I did a similar move I don’t remember what she said it was but I know it’s a double planks of some sort.
Ours was different, we weren’t as close to each other so we had a gap and I kind of thought ours look like a half moon a bit. What you are guys are doing is much harder and I’d hate for it to just be called double planks. I liked "vertical horizon" the name you guys have been calling it https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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Charleys your tutorial was great! It was really cool to finally hear your voice too! You sound like a wonderful teacher. You guys should defiantly watch them both, she makes note of things that I don’t so between the two you all should have a good idea on how to do this move. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif let us know how it goes. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_geek.gif
I kept it short and sweet! I just watched yours and you make good mention of those thighs staying locked until you’ve got it. THIGHS then switch arms.
I LOVE this move right now.
How are you liking the FLIP? I am thinking about getting one. *This is one expensive hobby*
Do you think the same thing could be done with gemini?
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If Charley doesn’t mind I can make one tomorrow for you guys…..I don’t want to do it if she has one all ready to go, that would be uncool. I think I might approach it a little differently, but I don’t want to bust in and take over. My new filp cam makes it super easy to post. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
Oh no V, go right ahead if you haven’t already! It’s good to see different variations on moves anyway and I have been SO swamped with classes and my job I’ve hardly had time and then I decided to redo it at the studio because it looks nicer that way. I have a QUICK tutorial on it.
I was doing this move initially from butterfly but simplified it as taught by Wendy so this isn’t even my move really it’s Wendy’s, lol!
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Here is a very quick tutorial on the move. I do it pretty slow so you should be able to get the gist of it.
https://www.studioveena.com/video/gallery/Spinning-Scorpio-Tutorial
This is not an indepth tut if you are having problems with scorpio, thigh hold or air invert consult Veena’s lessons as she breaks down all of these moves. I made this tutorial assuming you can do those moves.
Thank you Veena for giving me permission to post this.
IMPORTANT – please be sure to have your opposite arm pit grip BEFORE you do into scorpio on the otherside – don’t drop the legs until you know you’ve got the arm grip!
Have fun look forward to seeing more vids of this move!
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These poles are really expensive – about $1600 USD BEFORE shipping https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif
They are really cool but Platinum Stages is about to release a similar style pole that should be less expensive.
I’m curious to see how many are keen on having to use the mat. Mats are good for tricks bad for dancing so while I love this pole for teaching, I even feel some of my students may not be terribly keen on having to use the mat for everything.
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I’m also asking V if it is okay to post the tutorial/link to tutorial here https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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yea its for ‘safety’ reasons.
This is a business site, I totally understand the inappropriateness of posting tutorials on a forum for an online school. I wouldn’t throw a pole jam at my studio and let other pole instructors from other schools come in and TEACH moves to people (although they are welcome to come and play!!!!!) so I understand that Veena wouldn’t want people coming into her place of business (just because it’s the internet doesn’t make it any less of a studio) and teaching.
And if anything, for me, I am thankful because Veena has let me advertise on here quite a bit and I’ve built up a wonderful group of friends and clientele from this site. She doesn’t have to allow that. She does give us a lot room as far as instructors without expecting much if anything in return – she has even said on threads I have posted to come out and visit me. That’s kind of like an endorsement and it’s very generous.
At any rate I am more than happy to help you guys out with the move. http://www.youtube.com/charleyisagirl" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sure guys I’ll do a quick video tonight over at the studio and post it up on youtube.
I’ll show exactly how Wendy showed us to do it. Don’t try this unless you can already air invert, scorpio and thigh hold and it’s helpful to be able to scoprio opposite side – but if you can’t this is a good way to get comfortable in it. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
Check tonight on my YT.
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Roxy!!! Congrats!!!!
Jenn – I know you can do this move!!!! It’s easier than inverting on silks https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif
Can’t wait for next Monday – I bet if you don’t have it by then you’ll have it by the end of jam!