What's going on with xpoleus?
LilyG3013 started this discussion ·
Does anyone know what's new about the "new" models coming in May?
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Does anyone know what's new about the "new" models coming in May?
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I honestly dont even think xpole knows. Id rather them not advertise product or talk about it if ppl cant buy it.there is no date they just keep saying comming soon maybe. Yeah ok whatever.thats why im not gonna buy any of there poles now im just going to wait for there top secret comming soon maybe new product to come out
azblanco ·
I personally despise the "beating around the bush" or anticipation strategy when it comes to marketing... And that's what I feel like they are doing... Marketing. I could be wrong in my assumptions... From my understanding, they had a huge warehouse first months back and lost a lot of their stock supplies?? Who knows, but I agree. They shouldn't "announce" new product releases unless they plan on telling us what the products are with an "official" release date...
azblanco ·
warehouse fire***
azblanco ·
I will add... If this is the type of approach they are using just so they can sell more poles-- I personally would never choose to do business with a company that uses this type of approach. But maybe this is not the case- because if it were, they wouldn't be able to sustain this type of consumer anticipation for very long. Eventually people will get fed up.. Apologies if these seems like negativity, but sometimes larger companies have a way of doing this..
I agree with you AZBLANCO. first warehouse fire ,short supplies, flood what next... maybe they should move production to the great USA rather over seas. idk thats just my opinion too
Sadly their prices would skyrocket if they were made here.......
It should be noted that were X-Pole to take the patriotic approach they would be made in the UK as that is where X-Pole is from. Instead X-Pole has chosen to take the route that helps insure it is affordable to purchase worldwide.
I'm just asking because I finally have money AND know which one I want and now it's not there and there's "new" coming soon.
If I hear one more person say that xpole should move their manufacturing stateside... A) wild assumption that xpole is a us company just because they have offices here when, as you say webs, they are not B) blatant sense of superiority that US made goods are better quality when part of the reason US has lost manufacturing jobs to other countries is that American made products for years were notorious for being absolutely horrible quality (1990s GM vehicles, anyone?) and do not get me started about the OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY between xpoles and some other poles that are "proudly made in the USA" that could hurt you if you danced on them. Moreover, just because a company advertises that they assemble in the US...guarantee that the parts they use come from a global market. The steel for the components was probably mined and refined in another country. The nuts and bolts were probably cast in another country. The cardboard boxes the pole ships in were probably made in another country. It's silly, goods assembled from multiple components are almost guaranteed to be "international" goods in some sense. C) blatant ethno-centric idea that somehow people in the US deserve to have jobs more than people in other countries, or that it's morally superior to support workers in the US by avoiding products made elsewhere. Do those people in other countries not deserve to have jobs? Do those millions of people deserve to lose their jobs and be thrown into poverty over a boycott of perfectly acceptable quality goods not made in the same country someone happens to live in and thinks is the best? Got news, patriots...plenty of people in the world wouldn't live in the US if you paid them to. I know there is the issue that the US often has fairer laws for workers than other countries, and I do believe all workers everywhere deserve to be treated fairly, but we're not going to make third-world laborers any better off by causing their sources of income to close down. Sorry, all of this is ranting that is totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand. I just am getting really, really sick of people dissing xpole because they don't manufacture in the US as though being a US company inherently makes one company better than another. That's, frankly, a really nationalistic and xenophobic view of what is, in reality, a completely global market for goods.
Also just to be clear, the above rant wasn't an attack on anyone here, just me going on tangent because I've seen this "buy American made" crap going around a lot lately and frankly, it doesn't hold water.
Hey everyone! I know its been a frustrating time for some people eagerly awaiting their poles- and some people have a lot of questions about what X-Pole has been up to. It has been a very transitional time for us with new products launching. The X-Pole factory is fulfilling orders worldwide as well as to the USA, and there has been a delay on shipments. We do apologize! We prefer not to give an exact date on product arrival because we do not wish to disappoint! New product will be rolling out May 1st! Yes we have already seen, tried, and tested the New 2014 X-Perts- and they are worth the wait! The new poles are beautiful- same tested and true strong cores, and we love the new upgrades. We certainly do know about our product- so if you ever have questions or doubts, you can call us. We have listened to our customer feedback, as well as feedback from the Pole stars, and our X-Pole Team. These upgrades have been made with you at the forefront! Please watch our New X-Pert video here: [youtu.be] More new product will be rolling out this summer 2014! And we promise to provide you with up to date information as it comes to us! If you ever have questions, we are happy help- just give us a call or shoot us an email: [email protected]. Thank you so much everyone for your patience and support!!
Poledanceromance the reason ppl say buy American made isn't because we think America is superior to any other country. It's because as you said pl need jobs and an income the jobs you said we would be taken from other countries were taken from us why because it is cheaper to have other countries make the products not because America makes crappy products. American government saw a way to ace money by out sourcing why pay some company here 500 to make something when you can pay another country 100. That's what it boiled down to cheap labor. There are thousands of unemployed ppl in America why because companies shut down and went over seas companies that have been around for decades even. So when ppl say but American they say it because they want to put money back into their country and start lowering the unemployment rate. So everything you said could happen to the low paid workers of other countries who now do all the manufacturing and production of products sold here has already happened to us. We are in debt up to our ears because of out sourcing and helping other countries we are just trying to rebuild as a country and want to see families with nothing from losing their jobs be able to care for themselves and their children. I love other countries everyone their customs and languages and history so no I don't see America as the greatest place I see it as the same as any country with its good and bad and I see that like other places it's ppl are just trying to survive too.
It's really not that simple. One of the reasons the outsourcing happened is that people were no longer willing to buy American made products because the quality was so low relative to the price being so high. You also have to consider that the reason for this is that business owners are constantly trying to serve their own shareholders above any other interest. It doesn't really have anything to do with "the government." That's just incorrect. Frankly, the CEOs are not willing to make a few thousand dollars per year less in profit to spend the extra money it costs to manufacture things here. That's not really the government's fault, that's the fault of BIG businesses who CHOSE to outsource to other countries. Thirdly, you did not address my actual point. My point is that "buying American" is a completely pointless idea when all you are doing is ensuring that some pieces were put together in the United States, but all of those pieces come from other countries in some way. Even steel that we mine here, we ship overseas to process, and then ship it back here to sell. They even do this with American meat and fish; it gets raised here, shipped to China for processing, and then shipped back here to sell, and it's actually cheaper. There is no way to really "buy American" and AVOID supporting "outsourced" jobs. My point is that, the way modern goods come to be, pretty much everything that is a manufactured good is basically an international product. Moreover, the businesses who make thee products know this. They aren't assembling their products in the US and telling you "buy American!" for any altruistic reason. If a company is telling you to "buy American," they have done this purely as an advertising strategy to get you to buy their product for a reason other than the merit of the value of the product itself. They're saying "don't compare the pros and cons of our actual product to another product, just buy ours because it's 'made in America' and the other guy's is not!" What I'm saying is that, because of the nature of manufactured goods and the fact that essentially all manufactured goods have parts and labor from all over the world, usually when you see an "American made" label on something like a pole, that's more of a sales gimmick than it is truth, because it deceives you into thinking all the components and everything are American when they are not. Lastly, I would ask you to really consider that the problem is NOT with our government, but with governments of other less developed countries who don't have any labor laws, who allow a factory to hire five year olds to work 15 hour days sewing your jeans together for $0.50 per day. And right now, there's few ways we can avoid products coming from that. And there is no practical way that any country who stands up for fair labor laws will be able to compete with that. If we altogether as a people stand up for each other and demand fair labor laws for every person in the world, this difference will be completely eliminated. Again, this is not the fault of our government, but of the owners of American businesses deciding they would rather use a sweat shop of 5 year olds in Cambodia than hire American workers to make their products because the business owner gets another $10k per year in his wallet if he does. The fault lies squarely with the owner of a business who would rather take advantage of people who work without labor protections than pay workers here fairly. That is not your government's fault, it's strictly a profit-driven choice by American business owners. Ultimately, I think the best way we have to end the problem of people taking advantage of poor labor laws is to continue to support the international goods market, because once a country is actively engaging in global markets, the international community can leverage that part of a country's economy to push them into passing fair labor laws that level the playing field on both human rights and jobs. Of course, none of that is really relevant to x-pole because I'm pretty sure they aren't purposefully seeking out sweatshops in rural Cambodia (nike does though lol), just using Chinese-processed steel components which basically everyone does. Moreover, all of this is irrelevant when we are talking about xpole, because a company that is not an American company is under no kind of moral imperative to have their manufacturing in the US. A UK company does not deserve to be boycotted for not having their manufacturing in the US.
Anyway, my literal only point with this is to be extreme skeptical when you hear the "buy American" quote used by a company that manufactures. Be aware that there is more advertising gimmick to that than there is truth. For example, American car makers say "buy American!" But their parts are all coming from overseas. In fact, if you want to buy the "most American car you possibly can," you would have to buy a Toyota Corolla, because even though they are a Japanese country, their cars are made and assembled here. Be skeptical and discerning. Most companies that say "buy American!" Are doing it to make more money, not because they actually care about American jobs as much as you do.
WebJunk ·
Gave this a lot of thought, nearly 3 minutes with my morning coffee. Need to get this out before the caffeine kicks in. Here are the Seven facts. 1. What is the best country? Whatever country I am poling in right now. 2. Why Americans want american made poles? We Don't trust that Easter Island-made crap. 3. Why no one likes poles from foreign companies? We want to fully understand the person yelling at us that the pole & us fell down because we set it up wrong. 4. Why are Americans afraid of European poles? Do the Poles really know how to make poles? (Actually they have been doing that for centuries!) 5. How is Chinese metal different from american metal? Its predominantly american recycled cans, cars and other steel. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/13/business/china-s-need-for-metal-keeps-us-scrap-dealers-scrounging.html So your pole could have been a Pontiac Aztek! 6. What is the best pole manufacturer in the world? Not the one in the latest YouTube Pole Failure video.
You. With the coffee. I fucking love you. High five!!!!
Lol, that made my day
Patriotism (alongside with some other noble feelings) doesn't last longer than the distance to the closest bank. Haha. PDR, good example about the cars. Not that I'm American (nor Japanese). No, I'm from the place which produces Epic Splits. Beat that. WebJunk, with 2) you pretty much fortified the idea that everyone around the world (surely including those on Easter Island) have regarding American geography knowledge :P. Poles still don't know how to properly make poles or how to Polish them. I bet those were the ones in that latest youtube failure video!
Totally not on the topic of xpole at all, but instead on the topic of US made things... I think when most people think of the terms "Made in the USA," "US Made," and support American companies, they are buying into the gimmicks and "green-washing" that is popular right now (because doesn't it make sense it is more ecofriendly to buy "locally made" products?). But, what originally started this whole made in the us thing is when it became popular to support local, small businesses. Yes, parts and materials are often from other places as not only is manufacturing and extracting certain things not doable in the US, but also because we are a part of the whole world trading system. I would like to add my small knowledge of US manufacturing in regards to what poledancerromance was saying. We are actually the largest manufacturer of goods in the world, yes even more than China. I do not know the ratio of goods completed from start to finish here, but I do know that we do not ship out most of the steel anymore. Most steel companies in the US manufacture from start to finish within their own facilities. Also, to avoid the whole meat/fish being outsourced, this is a prime example of why it is so important to buy local meat from a trusted farmer who will definitely NOT be outsourcing. And I am not even sure how much we truly outsource our food products as I know from living on the East Coast there are TONS of animal product manufacturers there. I can't see that happening a lot and I would love to find the resource in which you got that information. Not that I am saying it is not true, but that I love to do research on those subjects and would love to read more about it. Also, as far as workers in other countries get "fair wages," I totally believe in that, but I also know that we cannot expect a worker in a poor/third world country to get what we expect to be fair. It takes so much less for most of these people to live then it does for us to live because of the way their own economies are. I live in a place in which tourism is very popular and people from all over the world come here to work. I talk to a lot of young adults that come here from eastern European countries (Moldova, Bulgaria, etc.) and even some Asian countries that work all summer long (about four months) and make more than they could in a whole year where ever they are from. I know some kids who were in college and could pay a few years' tuition in one summer working here. The cost of living is so high there and the wages are still so low. But, the cost of the important things (food and such) is super low; it's just the luxury items that are costly. It would be asinine to assume that we need to help regulate those wages as much as some people do because can you imagine what would happen if a worker could make $50 a day working in a "wage managed" facility and the other people working their asses off at local places making maybe $20 a day how much that would throw off their economy? Some places could not handle that extreme influx of monies. It would create distress and all kinds of crime. The best way to offset that is to try to find companies that support working with co-ops in other countries that help to make sure their workers are supplied with enough to take care of their families. That is the main and important goal here. I do not think that products made in the US are superior by any means; some may be and some may not be. But it is good to try to support that which does come from our own backyard; it creates jobs, helps our own economies, and is better environmentally. I like to buy reused as much as I can because then, no matter where it is from, I feel good about extending the life of those products. I'm lucky living in Alaska because we can be so self sufficient here because we have the means to do so. There is not very many places you can experience that freedom. Oh, and just to clarify, I am not attacking any one's response on these things, I am just interested in these types of matters and I like to discuss them!! The more I discuss, the more I learn about new ideas that broadens my own frame of mind. I think healthy debate is just that, healthy!! :)
Good points Goddess KK, I don't think people who are wanting to buy US made are wanting to deny workers of wages in other countries or necessarily feel the U.S. is superior.
It is not only the CEOs of the companies that are greedy but many of the union workers who demand up to $50 hours or more to work on a line somewhere. And if they are terrible workers, putting out terrible product a company can't fire them....its all a mess and everyone is to blame.
Man, I wish I could get a job making $50 an hour to make dance poles. I don't even make half that and I am exposed to HIV, Hepatitis, Radiation, Chemotherapy drugs, MRSA, and Tuberculosis on a daily basis...I'm in the wrong industry! LOL
Lol...I don't think the pole makers are making that. But autoworkers for instance. :)
Here ya go. Kind of a partisan website but there are links to the information about how it winds up being cheaper for meat processors to send food overseas to be processed. http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/03/chicken-from-china-your-seafood-is-already-being-processed-there/#.U15zS6XwtlI On a side note, I realized this morning that I forgot to mention that if you want to skip the gimmick of "buy American" and actually get the substantive effect, you are much better off "buying local" than "buying American." If you're really concerned about supporting labor directly, find small manufacturers who make a product you like and support that. But honestly, when it comes to poles, I have tried many brands and quality-wise, there just isn't a small manufacturer out there right now who delivers on quality in a tension-mounted pole and performance-grade stage pole to the extent that xpole does, and I expect that's just because there are more barriers to entry in that market than there are barriers to entry for the market of permanent mounted poles. In fact, if you want to support a local business and you can do a permanent mounted pole in your space, there are small business metal workers who would probably be more than capable of cutting and fashioning a bolt-in/permanent pole in whatever metal, height, and diameter floats your boat.
Food Safety NewsChicken from China? Your Seafood is Already Being Processed ThereThanks to our Change.org petition (307,000-plus signatures and rising), millions of Americans have learned that the U.S. Department of AgricultureSo sorry everyone about products should be made in the usa. I didnt think ppl would write books about their opinion. The comment was unessary and had nothing to do with the topic. And I adreee with. CHemmie and web master comment. I can be ignorant I said I was sorry
