Pole help!

CloSmo started this discussion · 10/14/2013

So I've moved out of my parents home for the first time and I am now renting a little granny flat. The only problem I have with this is that the roof isn't strong enough for my pole. It does however, have these strong beams running through the roof, though they are too thin for the pole to be installed. Anyone have any ideas on how I could put the pole up without hurting the roof? It's an X-Pole X-pert (old version). I thought maybe if I got Dad to put some wood up into the roof and make that stronger. Or drill into the beams and have a stronger material between two of them which would hold the pole. It's been almost two weeks since I've touched a pole and I am missing it! I have a few moves I was getting into and I don't want to lose the motivation and momentum I was achieving. It's also making me lazier and I was getting better at that!

20 replies

IchigoMewMew · 10/14/2013
My pole studio use ceiling mounts screwed into the beams which you use without the dome, sounds like that might be an option for you, not sure how much they cost though
CloSmo · 10/14/2013
As in the pole then screws into the ceiling?
Veena · 10/14/2013
CloSmo, all poles weather they are removable or permanent need to be placed on a "beam" If the beams are far apart then using a square of wood can be done if you're using the dome on an xpole. If you want to screw your xpole in, then you would want to buy the xpole vaulted ceiling adaptor. That screws into your beam/joist and the pole goes in to the adaptor and you don't need the dome any more.
poledanceromance · 10/14/2013
I am having this exact problem at my new house. I'm assuming your issue is the same as mine, that you have a truss style ceiling structure where those thin 2x4s for joists are all joined using those metal plates so you don't have solid joist structure in the ceiling like you would if the "ceiling" was the floor of the floor above you. Using a larger board (idea would be to span at least 4 joists) with grip tape on it should distribute the load so you don't have to screw into the ceiling and it shouldn't exert as much upward pressure on the joists when the pole is under tension. The option of using the vaulted or permanent mount for the pole is also a good option because the pole doesn't require as much tension to stay up when you use the permanent mount, so it's mostly lateral (side to side) force you are exerting BUT doing that still puts all the force on one joist. The happy medium is to secure the permanent mount to the large board itself, and screw the large board into 4 joists.
CloSmo · 10/14/2013
This is what the ceiling looks like: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mppgphpo3fparw1/Photo%2029-09-13%207%2021%2022%20AM.png This is the only photo I have on my phone right now and I won't be home until later tonight. I'm not sure if this is what you were mentioning about joists poledanceromance, but the ceiling is kinda flimsy in between the beams- but those beams seem to be pretty sturdy. Would that adapter be the best bet, Veena? I've never even heard of an adapter before! Might have a look at lunch today
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poledanceromance · 10/15/2013
I can't see the pic, but if the beams themselves are super sturdy then using the adapter like veena suggested is the best option. Being bolted into a sturdy beam with the vaulted mount is a very secure way to mount the pole.
poledanceromance · 10/15/2013
Worth mentioning too that even if you have the adapter mounted to the ceiling, you can still take the pole itself up and down very easily. The mount will just stay up there on the ceiling when you take the pole down.
Veena · 10/15/2013
Thank you PDR.
tacha666 · 10/16/2013
You don't need to get the vaulted ceiling mount. Xpole sells a blockmount which would work perfect. I have one myself (I can take a picture if you like) and my pole is spinning so much smoother and faster, because you don't have to tighten it as much.
CloSmo · 10/16/2013
Tacha can you send the picture?
tacha666 · 10/16/2013
Just took a picture and uploaded it to my gallery. Hope this helps!
CloSmo · 10/16/2013
That looks quite little!
tacha666 · 10/16/2013
By the way, pole set up is so much faster. I don't take it apart when I take it down and drew a circle with a pencil on my floor so I know where the base has to go. So I just have to put the whole pole into the block mount, find the circle on the floor and turn it until it's tight. I have the old style block mount, the new one is this one: http://xpoleus.com/store/xpert-block-mount-404550mm-silver-p-622.html (unfortunately a little more expensive).
Lyme Lyte · 11/10/2013
Ok...so decided to buy a mount, but the x pole site is only showing a mount for a VAULTED ceiling. ???????
DestinyPoles · 11/10/2013
This is the link to the silver xpert mount, if you have a sport it'll be different! :) http://xpoleus.com/store/xpert-new-original-block-mount-404550mm-silver-p-1033.html
Veena · 11/10/2013
I am using my vaulted mount as a flat mount at the moment. Are they just out of stock?
Lyme Lyte · 11/11/2013
So odd.....the link destiny shared HAS the bock mount, but when I go to x pole site, they don't have it! WTH?
Lyme Lyte · 11/11/2013
Ok...talked w them flat mount is out of stock for another month. She said my pole would be stable at 12 feet using the dome, but i always had problems w it slippin on 8 feet.
X Pole Tech · 11/12/2013
X-Pole have multiple mounts and have recently added Ball type mounts in both standard and vaulted types. The vaulted type can be used for both a standard and Vaulted ceiling as per the older versions. The reason for the change to a ball is to allow the pole to flex evenly in all directions which the older mounts did not. Whilst an X-Pole can be used at heights such as 12' without a fixed mount we strongly suggest that anything over 10' (3m) either a fixed mount or a ceiling plate are used. Especially with today's direction towards more extreme moves!! Every pole installation is different and the factors affecting installation change. As per the thread ceilings are different (Concrete, steel, wood, just beams, vaulted etc.) and also the floors (Carpet, Lino, Wood, Concrete, Sprung dance floors etc.) and all of these affect the stability and operation of a pole – it does not matter who the manufacturer of the pole is! We often get comments like my pole has slipped and find that it is on a ‘Thick pile carpet' or a Wood or Sprung floor. Both of these, once the dancers weight is added to the pole make the pole de-compress, by reducing the pressure on the ceiling allowing the pole to move. It is for those reasons that we strongly advise using a ceiling mount or ceiling plate. Safety is paramount. The ceiling plate is very simple. It is just a circular piece of wood, screwed with one or two screws into the ceiling beam (so there is virtually no disturbance to the ceiling and you can paint it the same color as your ceiling – reducing its ) that the upper dome fits over. This stops it from slipping. http://www.x-pole.co.uk/images/stories/CeilingPlate.pdf It is easy to make and use and X-Pole are currently producing some so that they can be purchased as opposed to having to make one. They will be available in the new year. We hope the above helps X-Pole Tech Team
Lyme Lyte · 11/12/2013
We made a circle celing mount at my old home and it worked, but we don't want that up in our living room in our new place. It seems the flat mounted ones are out of stock until mid December. :(