drkfaery started this discussion ·
Hi pole friends. I'm currently looking into getting either a laser facial treatment or some kind of filler. At 43 my face is seriously looking droopy and needs a boost! Need advice from the Veeners please. Thank you!! 🌸
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I had a filler done for my smile lines (nose to corner of my mouth) at your age (three years ago). They said it would last about a year. Well, three years into it, my lines are still gone and it was worth $900.00!!!!! I also had my lips plumped with cost about $450, and that didn't last even a few months......waste of money. I have had Botox, which I love, but don't love the cost of it for the short time it last.
drkfaery ·
Thank you LYme Lyte! That's exactly the place I need help. Do you remember which filler it was? Thanks again :)
No, I DON'T remember. I know they were two different fillers. Not sure why the laugh lines lasted so long....whether is is the location or the product. I will call next week and see what they used for my laugh lines....... :)
btw, the lasar is for fine lines only. If you have deeper lines and/or crows feet you will want botox and/or fillers.
For the money...fillers are the least exspensive, shortest down time than any laser treatment that will REALLY work. You can get a botox for around the eyes..often times it will open up the eye a little bit.. (do the line in between the eyebrows to lift and do the sides of the eyes to soften the lines around the eyes. If you have the lines running down the side of your nose..a filler is great. It's not permanent, but often people find they need less and less over time. CO 2 lasers are very effective, costly , and a lot of down time. Ulthera is a new one that will tighten the skin..(price varies) It's much much much better than refirme and better than thermage. there are fractional lasers that have different degrees of down time vs tighten, lighten, toning, and lifting abilities. (of course cost) I think a filler is the cheapest way to create more fullness. It depends if you are a "sinker" or a "sagger" Go to some different plastic surgeons and get some consults...ask your friends. Technique and experience are important when it comes to these procedures. They are not as "slam dunk" as you think.
Yeah, do your reasearch! I had a guy do Botox around my lips for my fine lines and I couldn't suck out of a straw for weeks!
drkfaery ·
Thank you so much for the gread advice! I'm thinking a filler is the way to go. I have lines from nose to mouth and sagging around the mouth also. Just need to decide and do some research about which filler to use. Any more advice is welcome!! xo
I've heard good stuff about Juvederm.. the ultra is thicker..great for the nasia folds (nose) and then the regular is good around the mouth. The have some groovy techniques for the mouth area..so ask some different docs about that.
Saphyre ·
I am 47 and have had quite a bit of stuff done. I had CO2 laser resurfacing in February 2009. Super painful, but results were amazing. I use botox around and between my eyes for crows feet. I just started using it in January of 2010 and I absolutely love it!!!! There are many types of fillers and what is best for you will depend on where you need it and what your doctor/dermatologist recommends. My main man uses Radiesse for my nasolabial folds. Here is a quick and dirty rundown: Hyaluronic Acid Fillers: These add volume and hydration. Good for surface wrinkles and concave scars. Common HA's are Juvederm, Restylane, and Perlane. All last about a year. Juvederm is also good for the lips. Results are immediate. Customized Collagen: These also fadd volume, but also stimulate your own collagen. Usually used for deeper lines and to add volume to mid-face. Common products are Radiesse (what I use) and Sculptra Aesthetic. Not a good choice for around eyes or lips as the microspheres can sometimes be felt or even see as small bumps. Can last a year to 15 months. Results are immediate. Sculptra is the same as Radiesse, but with a significant difference in how it works. This is a gradual process that requires multiple treatments. Usually 3-5 procedures over 3-5 months. You may need a local anestheti for pain. This filer can last up to 2 years or longer. Even up to 5 years. The results are gradual. Not good for eyes. This is a great way to go if you can afford it and can wait longer for results. Sculptra can be combined with a faster acting filler, but that would be really pricy! Expect some brusing if you bruise easily. Arnica Gel is fantastic to use for a week before and after. It can keep the brusing to a minimum. As mentoned above get references, and do your research. This is an art form and should be performed by someone who has lots of practice and is certified. Not sure where you are exactly in California, but I have names in Napa, Beverly Hills, San Francisco, and Coronado. Good luck and remember. Once you start getting fillers, it is hard to stop!
Saphyre ·
Sorry for all of the spelling errors!! Yikes!
@saphyre...did you go full CO2 or did you get the fraxillated one (but not fraxil) I had the Portrait Plasma Laser done a few years ago. 6 fulls days of scary face downtime, (soaks every couples of hours and no public time) How long was the CO2 downtime. I heard its long?
Saphyre ·
Hi Pegasus. I had Deep FX CO2 which is fraxellated. I was in twighlight /general anesthetic, thank God!! I looked like a burn victim when I was done. I have photos and it is super scary to look back on. Out of all the procedures I have ever had, including an appendectomy, it was the most painful. Putting any kind of liquid on my face whether it was warm, tepid, or cool was pure agony. I did not show my face in public for at least a week, but it may have been longer. My face remained pink for probably 2 months, but was able to use dermablend and mineral powder to cover it up. This was pretty tough for me as I only use a little bit of mineral powder. I hate foundations. So, 3 years later I look pretty good. Back to using powder only. I get mistaken for being in my 30's, so I would say it was worth it. I guess it's like childbirth. Very painful, but you get over it. (I don't have kids, just heard the stories!) I do have some fine lines on my forehead, but Botox works like a dream!
drkfaery ·
Thanks for the great info!! I had a consultation today and they really pushed the co laser. I came home and did some online searching and saw many people had not only pigmentation problems after the laser treatment, but loss of fat from face, which is something I don't want. I have another consult tomorrow with a dfferent doctor. I'm starting to think that a filler and a dermabrasion (which i've had before) for my brown spots might work well together. Still looking up the different filler types to decide. Wish me luck for tomorrow!! Damn this aging thing is not fun!! 😉
I think it is less risky on light skin.. It actually helped my pigmentation issue..but I am casper. I dont think you get fat loss, but a laser might tighten the skin.
Saphyre ·
I agree with Pegasus. CO2 tightens the skin, but does not cause fat loss. This is a dermal treatment only, meaning it only affects the skin. If anything, it could stimulate collagen growth which could give more fullness, but generally there is no affect. Pigmentation issues can be an issue. It does affect darker skin more than lighter skin. There is a laser treatment that is somewhere between Dermabrasion and full on CO2. It is called "Fraxel". This is a multiple treatment process. I had this years ago, before CO2. I absolutely loved it! It does not go as deep as CO2, but it certainly sloughs off dead skin cells and is great for fine lines and dark spots. Do some research on it. Good luck!
drkfaery ·
So, after much research and the great opinions given here by veeners I finally made my decision. Last week I had Juvederm and 1 of a series of 3 peels. So far I'm amazed by the results. My brown spots are already looking much better. The Juvederm is amazing!! It's totally natural looking but smoothed out my lines running from nose to mouth. I can see why it's addicting! Thanks so much for the great advice girls! xoxo
YEA!!!!! Happy for you!!!
Saphyre ·
Glad you found something that works for you!!!
drkfaery ·
Ok time for a touch up! Next week I am getting my under eye hollows, which make me look tired all the time, filled in with Juvederm. A little nervous because it's a sensitive area. Any Veeners out there have this procedure? var fctb_tool=null; function FCTB_Init_957e95ae19594a3b881394e6da24e9c2(t) { fctb_tool=t; start(fctb_tool); } FCTB_Init_957e95ae19594a3b881394e6da24e9c2(document); delete document
Saphyre ·
I have. Ask your doc about using a topical numbing agent. It should be applied and left on for about 1/2 hour. You might still feel something, but it does help. If you use Arnica Gel for pole bruising, you should also use it for this procedure before and after. I usually apply it 2-3 times a day for 5 days before the injections. It can lessen possible bruising. Make sure you don't take ibuprofen for at least a week prior to the injections, because this can also increase your risk of bleeding and bruising. Drink plenty of water in the days prior. Make sure you ask your doc what you can/cannot do in the days following the procedure such as exercise or any other activity, icing, and other care. Good luck! You will love the results!
