Getting into invert jumping vs lifting
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That is a great thread too, RoseMay! Shona, I have my students work on wall moves, floor moves, transitions, spins, conditioning, balance, core work, combo spins, climbs, musicality....I want students to FEEL. To express themselves, to dance...to be grounded in the earth first. I want them to have platforms to build skills upon, this takes time.
Reyn ·
Don't forget, EVEN if you are not ready to invert, you can still work on SOME inverted moves by getting up in a reverse handstand!!
My instructors are huge on not kicking into an invert, but they allow a controlled leg sweep. In my case, I do tend to hook with my foot before my ankle or calf. But I have control and have not bruised anything or hurt myself. I do work on trying to "tuck and dump" to build strength
sparrow I wish there was a like button for your last post....
Thanks Amy for pointing that out- was starting to get really concerned about an assessment I have to join a local studio at intermediate level!! I'm pretty sure I don't use momentum but after reading these posts I started to get really panicked that I wouldn't pass!
If you do want to take time to focus on proper inverting, you can try some other moves so you don't feel discouraged. I worked on a lot of knee pit gripping moves before I started inverting (like the hobbit, shooting star, side V, side climb) and moves like the inverted thigh hold, dragonfly and other moves you can do starting from a reverse handstand to inverted crucifix. You could even practice a caterpillar from a reverse handstand to inverted crucifix.
Thanks, Nymph. ❤️
Im really glad I started this thread I have truely learnt a lot from it...I didnt even think about doing inverts from hand stands because I'm still working on my hand stands (slightly worried about missing the pole!!), but this gives me a reason to focus on them and it will also help my strength. This means I can still work on the inverted moves I have learnt already at least. I wish I could subscibe to your lessons Veena, so I could see how your lessons progress but I use my iphone and dont have enough data allowance to stream the videos..when I get the net at home I will be subscribing for sure.
I had made a video a while ago for one of the girl here. It show the difference between good and bad invert. And some exercice i was doing to get rid of that bad habit because yes i did it too at first. Sorry about the crapy look and not really strong move i was having a bad cold. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrYHyI4_hlk
Like someone mentioned, you will never learn an Ariel invert if you are using the floor at all to push off.....believe me. I'm at that point now. Learn it correct and you will be happy in the long run.
You don't have to get into a reverse handstand through a regular handstand. Veena's reverse handstand lesson is a good reference, that way you won't have to be worried about missing the pole.
Another important point to remember is that the shoulders need to stay engaged throughout the invert. most people who kick into an invert drop/unlock the shoulder. Watch Chem's two vids...the wrong version you see her drop from her shoulder immediately. In the no-kick version you see her keep her shoulders and elbows locked until she tips back and extends into the invert. The same way is seen in Amy's version but in Amys version she steps into it and sweeps the leg and in the link Chemmie posted it's a full dead lift from in front of the pole. Hooking with your calf is ok...but if you are hooking with your toe/toes and struggling to get it up there then you are either not ready or don't understand the technique. We call this the big toe scramble in class!
Big toe scramble......love it!
I DID THE INVERTED V!!!!! Or areial invert / chopper whatever you call it... I can't believe it!!! Since starting this thread I have been working on my strength every session and working on this move.. Watching technique vids, trying, failing, pull ups, push ups, core work, back work.... And last night I tried and I got it twice!! Now I just have to do it again...get it good and hold it then were on the path to inverting properly :-)
RoseMay ·
Yay, congratz 🥂 This is a big step. All inverted combos look so much better when they start with a nice controlled invert :-)
Thanks RoseMay, I am so proud of myself.. I just hope I can do it again now!
Wow reading this and watching the correct vs. incorrect videos was rather eye opening. I'm a little embarassed to say my studio taught inverts my first class, and definitely by means of a kicking entrance. I'll be sure to be mindful of my body movements and correct this immediately!!
Don't worry Annieloo, since i learn with YT at first and had to relearn it the good way. Happy the video help you ;)
Thankfully I learned the invert from a good teacher who started out with the knee tuck exercises in front of the pole. I never had to "unlearn" kicking. There has already been a lot of good advice, but I would add that being able to invert into the chopper seems to be a good test. At first when I inverted by myself I felt I had to hook the pole right away with my calf. During the next practice or two, I found I had more control and could rock back into the chopper. I do notice that my form decays as I get tired throughout a practice and I revert back into quickly hooking onto the pole. Also, I noticed that at the beginning of practice I can aerially invert, but once I am tired I cannot. So, based on my own beginning experience I would say that the chopper is a good litmus test of the amount of control in your invert, but I don't have the empirical data to stand behind that since I've never kicked into my invert or been around someone who does. Second thing: mentioned way above, "I didnt even think about doing inverts from hand stands because I'm still working on my hand stands (slightly worried about missing the pole!!)"
Shoot, I accidentally pressed Enter and posted it before I finished. About the "missing the pole" worry: Have you tried the Reverse Handstand under Veena's beginner lessons? There is no kicking into the reverse handstand, so there shouldn't be any concerns about missing the pole. You simply hook with your foot and bring your other leg up, and then you walk your hands back while bringing your hips up. The reverse handstand is how you get into the inverted crucifix without inverting. I never liked it because I haven't developed much flexibility yet, but it is good training for those who already have the flexibility and are developing their strength.
Thank you so much for this awesome thread! I've been poling since July and trying to invert since November. Luckily, I've had little success (since my instructor has been allowing me to kick up.) Now I know I have to get stronger and work on doing it right.
Veena ·
Yep Maurer rose, the Reverse Handstand is a great way for those who can't invert yet to work on inverted moves! Here is the link https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/f7c4b250-b91e-11df-856f-001b214581be ❤️
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