Lyme Lyte started this discussion ·
Anyone here have a clonic irrigation? If so, how did you like it? Thinking I am in the mood for a good cleaning, and some people loose up to 20 lbs of old built up fecal matter! Maybe able to get my shoulder mount better if I lost 10 lbs of $hit in my botty area.
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Jag5303 ·
No experience with that, but your comment made me LOL!😀
haha! nice way of putting it!! I was actually thinkin of it too let me no if u find out anything.. as far as i know they recomend that you get 3 sessions :/ as it does cleanse and detox,.. Id say it would b worth trying
There is a company called colon blow (seriously, look it up) that has a cleanse that takes about 24 hours. I guarantee you will blow out you colon! The big thing with colonics is that there is a lot of beneficial bacteria in your intestines and this can really disrupt that happy place. Just as douching can mess up your vajayjay this can be worse.
Chem, u try the blow stuff? I just want to feel clean as a whistle for once!
I'd be wary like chem said, especially with the risk of C. Diff (you do not want to mess with that.) It's how my aunt died. If you disrupt the bacterial balance (which also happens with antibiotics), the bad bacteria can take over. You can also get mega diarrhea and become dehydrated. Also, it's not true weight loss. Losing all the water waste and solids will just get replenished one you eat and rehydrate. Also, I can't imagine any NORMAL person would carry that much excess poopie (maybe a really obese person, but not someone like you.)
Thanks sensual scimitar. Ur correct about the normal flora, but I really am curious on how much excess fecal matter is built up on my large intestines. I'm sure I don't have 10 lbs, but maybe even five.....I want it out! :)
One of my favorite Penn & Teller episodes is about this very topic check it out for free here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6pvwoFrJa8&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLB422B6AFB6AAA6DE
I have done the colon blow but it was years ago (and I have the t-shirt to prove it http://www.colonblow.com/tshirt.html). ; It is basically a large dose of stool softeners and fiber. It did not give me diarrhea but I was using the bathroom a LOT. I can't remember if I had any weight loss. Cleansers are more for people who are not "regular" to begin; this is when you start having issues. After long bouts of illness or medications it may be a good idea to reset your body, too. The reason I had chosen this one to try is because it is one of the few that are all natural and it only required fasting for the 24 hours that you take the product. I do remember though that the fiber packet that you mix with water was really hard for me to get down. It was a minty metamucil type product. I had tried this when I had been sick for nearly a year and they could not determine what was wrong with me. I had been on so many types of medications and antibiotics and steroids it was not even funny. I was totally miserable and willing to try anything at that point. I remember looking into liver cleanses also and I did a candida cleanse too. Probably the most informative site I found was Dr Hulda Clark. I would suggest to anyone who is looking to do any sort of cleanse to visit and read the information that is there. http://www.drclark.net/ Oh, turns out that I was highly allergic to the products that we made where I worked. Since it was the manufacturing plant everything was always in the air. I always knew that I had sensitive skin to certain soaps, but try having soap fumes in the air you are breathing for 9 hours a day.
Hahaha! I LOVE Penn & Teller!!!
Webmaster, im going to have to check it out when my intenet decides to work again! Just texting on my phone now. @chem, I finally feel like my Lyme has died off...after over a year of stong meds and antibiotis, and just want to make sure to flush all the residual "shit" out! :). I will check out the site u suggeted too.....
Just watche the Penn and Teller show...I didn't know they did TV....thought they were some guys is Vegas who did a magic show. O'well, learn something new everyday. Chem, also just checked out the clonicblow as well. I am thinking I may just bite the bullet and go get a clonic done....in/out within an hour, nothing to drink, no fasting. Should be interesting!
Jessilee ·
I have wanted to try this..I saw where Madonna recomends a cleanse with every season. I am affraid of disrupting the natural process though. I looked up colon blow..and one thing I have found in researching this stuff is to becareful with senna products as they can be habit forming. You can try Mag 07..it's a great cleanse and magnesium is a natural cleaner..this stuff is oxygenated to work good and fast. Also aloe juice..whoel leaf will help clean you out and is great to use if you are doing a fast/cleanse..inner fillet I drink daily to help things.
One thing w oral meds, drinks, etc., i am afraid of severe cramping that i dont know when it will hit. Im going to be a bit gross here, but i did a water enema yesterday with abou 400 cc of tap water. It cleaned my lower colon out great, but reading where some people do 2,000cc up to 5 gallons! Not sure how i would get that much in.....going to buy an enema bag which holds 1500 ccs
I would be careful with that. Repeated enemas and colon cleanses are not necessary and can in fact be dangerous for several reasons: Enemas and cleaning can kill the natural bacterial flora in your gut and colon which actually keep you healthy and are necessary for proper digestion. Your GI Tract and colon are naturally self-cleansing and do not retain "toxins" as some say. But this natural cleansing action occurs with a delicate balance of bacterial flora, mucous production, and proper digestive action. All of these can be disturbed with enemas and cleansing. What your body needs to maintain these processes are a good balance of clean and healthy foods and lots of water. Inflammation. The inside of your bowel and colon is not meant to be exposed to external elements or extreme solutions. Using diet cleansers or enemas can cause extreme swelling and irritation of the sensitive mucous membranes of your digestive tract. This inflammation can potentially lead to the most serious risk of all... Anything that disrupts your eating patterns or digestion can up your risk for extreme constipation or even an obstructed bowel. If you are vey constipated or have an obstructed bowel, performing an enema should never be done at home as it can rupture the bowel. You would bleed out internally and die at home in a shockingly short amount of time. Even if you are in a hospital with a ruptured bowel, you can still die from a massive septic infection from the contents of your bowel leaking into your abdominal cavity. The ONLY way doctors can save you is to open up your entire abdominal cavity surgically and literally remove your bowel from your body, flush your entire cavity out with sterile saline, repair the bowel, staple you shut, and pump you full of antibiotics. It is an extremely traumatic surgery which carries its own massive risks. Just like we now know for scientific fact that douching is unhealthy because the vagina is self-cleansing, we now know the same is true of the digestive tract, colon and bowel. Whenever you are experiencing digestive upset, the first thing you should do is clean up your diet and consult your doctor, not try to flush out your system with solutions which will only loosen the irritation. No enema or colon cleanse will ever make you feel as good as cleaning up your diet, upping your water intake, and exercising will. Ultimately, enemas and cleanses are extremely invasive to your body and you should never undertake something like this without talking to your M.D.
Here are sources to backup what I've said. The mayo clinic is one of the foremost sources for standards of care in the US. Everything in this link applies to enemas as well. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colon-cleansing/AN00065 Here's the wiki for enemas. There are lots of good secondary links with more info as well. Note they do talk about using an enema as a laxative, but you do still need to talk to your doctor about this again because of the risks mentioned above. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enema#section_3
en.m.wikipedia.orgEnema - WikipediaIf you have constipation, Mirilax is a good laxative. It doesn't cause cramping. I asked my doctor if it is safe for extended use and he told me it is. I believe it works by pulling more water into your intestines to bulk up the waste, making it pass easily. It takes about a day to work. I had to use it frequently when I was on seizure medications, as they made me unbelievably plugged and miserable.
Thanks all for the information! I will "digest" it all and see what I decide to do. :)
Jessilee ·
Try Mag 07 and aloe juice. Aloe juice has really helped me. Just a shot glass full once or twice a day. I feel great and poop marshmellow peeps! ;) I would definitly try all the natural stuff first..mirlax is a laxative, stay away from them..trust me that is a big source of my issues I have exprienced from abusing them in high school.
I knew a girl who would rave about these. She bought a series of 5(they do it at some medi-spas). She swore she lost 10lbs in 2wks and she claimed her skin cleared up from it to the point that she no longer wore foundation. She said her first she didn't loose any weight but they said it was normal for her first. Was a warm water colonic that she did. I think its all hype though.
tarah ·
hey lyme! well i can see this is going to be a controversial subject, and i don't want to argue with anyone... but i have had amazing experiences with colonics (and i used to work with a woman in san francisco who had a colon hydrotherapy practice, so i have given about 100 or so colonics to people). first of all, most doctors tend to be against anything that is natural, mostly because they have limited education, and treat everything with drugs. in my actual experience working with people, plus my own experience, colon hydrotherapy does not disrupt the natural intestinal flora. you can take some acidophilus afterward if you are worried about it. and from what i have actually seen come out of people (with my own two eyes!) the most dramatic results happen when the person is doing an herbal cleanse (taking colon cleansing herbs in combination with a cleansing diet). however, you don't have to do a big cleanse. just eat lots of raw fruits and veggies for a few days. you can also have plain potatos, and use apple cider vinegar and lemon juice for salad dressing. there are lots of good herbal cleanse programs available at health food stores. good luck! 😁
tarah ·
okay, i read the article by the mayo clinic guy. not a very good article at all. for one thing, colon hydrotherapy is extremely hydrating to the body - and that is a fact! 😁 also, if people were able to get rid of all of the toxins and waste that they dump into their bodies, we would not have all of these illnesses. america's health is on a fast decline. people are getting sicker and sicker, while big ag, big pharma, as well as the cancer industry, are making billions.
Piaketz ·
Hey Tarah, I take offense at your statement "first of all, most doctors tend to be against anything that is natural, mostly because they have limited education, and treat everything with drugs"! That is simply not true!!! If anything, I try to take my patients OFF medication whenever possible and I think most MDs of my generation try to at least. 🌸I'm the first to admit that I don't know everything in the world, and I like going natural if possible and am in no way against natural or homeopathic remedies. I always endorse cranberry for UTI and rarely give out cough syrup (I tell my patients to make ginger tea with honey and turmeric, I swear it's better than Robitussin and only give Robi if they absolutely ask for it) and I go to acupuncture regularly. But just because things are natural does not mean they are always good. Think about it this way, marijuana is natural, and it makes people stupid and fat!!! Lol! 😀 Anyway, it's that kind of attitude that causes a distrust between patient and doctor when it really should be a partnership. Most doctors are as bad as you think and do want to help their patients in earnest, regardless of "Big Pharma", and I wish you would not endorse that kind of thinking! ❤️
Piaketz ·
Lol I meant most doctors are NOT as bad as you think...
tarah ·
sorry, gummypia! obviously you are one of the good doctors. i will try to delete that comment that i wrote.. i wish there were more like you out there.. ❤️
Piaketz ·
Tarah, no worries luv 😎 No doubt that there are some doctors like you said... I've met a few and I've always felt like punching them. But I get your point that everyone should be discerning on who they trust 🌸
