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  • Shoulder problems restrict certain moves… help?

    Posted by Bluesioux on April 25, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    Hey everyone, i've gotten to a point at my pole classes where everyone can do this certain pole move, and I can't do it because my shoulders simply won't allow it. I don't know what the move is called, but its basically when you bend down at the waist as if you're going to touch your toes with your feet on the ground and your back upside down on the pole and you reach up to grab the pole and lift your legs off the ground. This same thing is also seen when you go from a layback, reach behind you, and hang with your arms and your body is in a straight line away from the pole. Sorry for all the describing, I forget the name of the move, haha! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
    Anyways, I can't do this move because when I reach up with one arm I can grab the pole but I can't get the other arm up to grab the pole without having to either bend my knees alot, or be in a lot of pain. I feel like i'll never be able to do this move due to my shoulder problems and due to the fact that even if I do it with my knees bent a lot, I dont have the strength to hold myself like that on the pole.
    My shoulder problems I think are due to how I sleep, since i'm a side sleeper and my shoulders kind of, crush into my chin/curl forward. And every morning when I wake up, I lock my hands behind my head, push back, and both shoulders crack really loud. Even when I do arm circles for warm ups I hear a constant click, click, click for every rotation. I'm only 18 so I dont want this problem to get any worse, plus I want to be able to do those moves! Do you know any exercises, stretches, even better pillows I could use? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif

    P.S. if I put my upper arm horizontal against a wall, with my elbow bent at 90 degrees and I turn away, it really hurts. But it seems to be the same muscle that is restricting me.

    Cinara replied 13 years, 6 months ago 8 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Bluesioux

    Member
    April 25, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Iguana mount! thats what i'm talking about https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    April 25, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Spend the money on a good massage therapist.  I have tried numerous exercises (Veena has a bunch) but nothing worked as well as deep tissue massage.

     

    There are a bunch of videos on youtube and such designed for volleyball players.  That is where I first saw videos (before Veena pretty much existed)

  • solsticedark

    Member
    April 25, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    I second chemgoddess1 on the massage therapist. He or she can be your best friend when it comes to things like that. Just be sure that they are experianced in deep tissue massage and to specify where your having issues.  I have also been known to go to a sports chiropractor when a joint really starts acting up and causing me pain. Saved my but when my wirst started acting up and I couldnt so much as open up my makeup or a jar at times. One session and it still feels great weeks later.

    Also make sure you are streatching your shoulders every day.

    As for the clicking have you injured your shoulders before?

  • Bluesioux

    Member
    April 25, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    I'm not sure if i'd be able to afford massage therapy that's the thing, since I live with my mom and we only live off of her income plus all the money I get outside of that is being saved for school since I start university in the fall. I haven't ever had any injuries, I find my shoulders and back are sore in the morning so i'm pretty sure it's the way I sleep and also my pillow. I need one for side sleepers that won't make me have all my weight on my shoulder while I sleep.

  • Charley

    Member
    April 25, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    You should definetly work on shoulder mobility for the iguana but also remember that leg flexibilty comes into play too – I used to not be able to grab the pole because I couldn't bend far enough over to grab the pole.  So do work on that shoulder mobility but also be sure to stretch and strengthen those hamstrings.  

    Make sure you're grabbing the pole the right way too – I don't often teach this move but when I do I notice that people aren't putting their arms and hands in the right place on the pole.  

    Good luck with it and enjoy that massage!

  • shawnlia

    Member
    April 26, 2011 at 12:41 am

    Check with your insurance carrier to see if you have coverage for physical therapy. If you do, I’d highly suggest seeking the help of a physical therapist because they will be able to work on the tightness that you have in your shoulders, as well as give you exercises and stretches to do at home so that you can strengthen & gain flexibilty in your shoulders safely as well as possibly correct any impingment you have have. I started getting tendonitis/bursitis in my right shoulder (which is my dominant arm) durung my pole practices, & thankfully I work at a PT clinic so I’m able to be treated & get the help I need so that I can continue.

    (If you find that you don’t have P.T. Coverage, or can’t afford your co-pay or deductible, you can look up shoulder stretches & shoulder strengthening exercises on http://www.Ehow.com under their physical therapy video section). Good luck!

  • heathalynne

    Member
    April 26, 2011 at 12:44 am

    I have the same problem. Tight shoulders. Just came to accept I can't do these moves, at least until I gain more shoulder flexibility… which probably won't happen in another 5 years. LOL!

    Have you tried a half iguana mount? It's a half handstand, half iguana, more core. I can do that one with tight shoulders. One arm is in a handstand, the other is grabbing the pole, same iguana position (back to the pole, forward bend). Then you lift up and can hook outside, inside, or brass.

  • Cinara

    Member
    April 26, 2011 at 2:24 am

    Try clasping your hands together behind your back before reaching them up to the pole. When I first started learning the iguana mount I had a lot of trouble getting my hands to come into contact with the pole, but once I clasped them together I could reach the pole, Once I had a good grip on it, the position wasn't even uncomfortable. For me it wasn't a lack of flexibility in the end position, but just a problem moving my arms towards the midline when they're behind me. It's worth giving it a go if you haven't already.

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    April 26, 2011 at 7:10 am

    As for affording the massage…a lot of massage schools offer low cost massages by students.  Also many true massage therapists are doing it to help heal people and if you state that you have monetary issues will offer a lower cost.

  • minicoopergrl

    Member
    April 26, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Along with what Chem said – the massage school near me offers a one hour massage (they have variou types) for $25.  Im still wondering why I havent gone yet.

     

    Im also thinking about seeing the chrio as well.  I used to see one a few years ago and it totally helped me out.  I felt better, I slept better and I 'grew' a bit too!

  • heathalynne

    Member
    April 26, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    @Cinara – That’s my main problem. Clasping the hands together behind me, even while just standing. I do those forward bending poses a lot in yoga and pole warmups BUT I can’t pull my arms more than 1 ft away from my butt. My palms aren’t flush together either.

    I really need to look into this deep tissue massage thing. And change my ways of side sleeping.

  • Cinara

    Member
    April 26, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Ah, fair enough. Luckily, if you work on your hamstring flexibility you won't need more than about a foot anyway. I think I would have the same problem with my shoudlers if not for my hyperextended elbows. I'm a side-sleeper too. Good luck with the deep tissue massage, and keep stretching. 

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