StudioVeena.com Forums Discussions Reducing fat but keeping muscle… While being vegetarian :S

  • michaelaarghh

    Member
    December 26, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    ok endangered was the wrong word to use – I was more making the point about fish populations reducing dramatically by overfishing, which just generally is bad for the whole ocean ecosystem. 

    But there are still fish farms – which is why I was asking. More from a curiousity point of view than anything. 

    Okay – so those who are vegetarian make sure you're getting yoru essential amino acids (this is different from just protein). I was more just pointing out that meat is not bad for you as someone else suggested, it's actually really good for you. There's 9 that we need but our bodies don't make so make sure you know about that and can get them in your diet. Plants do have them of course, but they only may have 4 or 5 and in smaller quantities. So just make sure you know what you're eating 🙂

     

    I've read eating animals. I think I see it from a different standpoint to you – our industry is no where near as bad as it is over in America, so a lot of the points about that in the book don't resonate with me. But also – the book is written wrought with emotion rather than fact. He doesn't cite any of the studies he mentions, and a lot of them he just uses "here's this shocking statistic" but doesn't actually explain it at all. Statistics can be used for anything. The book has a clear motive, and whilst it was an interesting read, from a scientific standpoint you need to be aware of what motives books / documentaries have when reading them (like I said in one of my other posts). 

    But yeah, AerialGypsy summed it up – stay away from highly refined carbohydrates and sugar and you'll be fine. 

    Also – just wanted to mention as well that whether someone is fat or skinny is no indication of their health. So you may not see fat vegans, but that doesn't mean that they're the picture of health. Likewise, just becuase someone is fat doesn't mean they're unhealthy. 

  • beginner2

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    December 26, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    https://www.studioveena.com/users/view/4d39f85b-a244-4a56-88c0-768b0ac37250

     

    I don't know if coconuts are plentiful in your place. here i just go to the market where they have machine to take the thick coconut meat to make it like powder and and they have the machine to squeeze to take the milk out.

     

    i heard that the coconut milk sold in box might have glue in it to keep its look (concentrated).

  • beginner2

    Member
    December 27, 2012 at 5:39 am

    to https://www.studioveena.com/users/view/4e8c14aa-f2bc-4824-94cd-69080ac37250 and https://www.studioveena.com/users/view/4d39f85b-a244-4a56-88c0-768b0ac37250

    Vegans and non-vegans both have sciences to back up.

    Sea fish is said to be contaminated with mercury which poisons nerves and brain cells. Garbage, oil spill, chemicals used in soil and to treat crowded livestocks, they all go with rain to river then to the sea.

    so people turn into fish in farms. wait. They said fish are forced into shallow crowded pools, same as chickens and hogs in crowded cages. They're sick often so anti-biotics are over used there.

    All animals in farms don't get to eat organic foods. if the livestocks are contaminated with poisons from plants, let alone the grow hormones under the name "high protein" for them to reach market size in shortest period, those poisonous flesh go directly to human eaters.

    Fish feels pains too. Try hurting fish in tank, you'll see they try to swim away. i have seen fish struggling in wet grasses when heavy rains brought them in from outside my house. Couldn't go taking them into river as they were all over.

    More about fish suffering is here: http://www.chooseveg.com/fish.asp

    Whether those sufferings are true or just hype by sensitive vegans & animal lovers, no one willdeny that with vegan lifestyle, you don't get involved with the unnessesary killing and suffering. they're very hopeless, have nowhere to run or cannot run after months being forced fed. they're born to be killed . Chickens 45 days. Pigs 3 months. Ducks? Turkeys? Cows? Rabbits? Snakes? Crocodiles? Fish?

  • PippiParnasse

    Member
    December 27, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Just want to mention that, in my experience, calling yourself vegan or vegetarian or semi-vegetarian varies regionally. When I lived in Europe I found that most people I knew there who called themselves "vegetarians" ate fish and maybe poultry, whereas in the US "vegetarian" usually means ovo-lacto but no fish. And there are as many levels of veganism as there are vegans, from non-ovo-lacto vegetarians (who still eat honey and wear leather) to not eating anything with sugar because you don't know if the sugar was whitened with animal bones.

    Whichever you are, thank you for your compassion towards animals! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_heart1.gif

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