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  • Issues with tucks and cradles

    Posted by Runemist34 on October 30, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Well, it’s been a long time since I tried this move or felt I was strong enough to do it…and it took me FOREVER to get the Cradle then, too! But I seem to be having issues once again. I know I’m strong enough because I can get into it, I just can’t seem to hold it and spin with it. I always bail out just as I’m making a full rotation.
    So, for both of these moves (as I seem to have an issue, possible the same issue, with both) are there any things I should be looking for? The Jump tuck is quite new to me, but it honestly doesn’t seem as impossible when I look at it as it does when I try to do it. The Cradle I have done before, many a time, and enjoyed it very much…but now I suck again!
    So, anyone else had any issues learning these, and can give me any hints? Should the pole sit at my belly, right in with my hips, and where should my arms be? Yes, I’ve watched Veena’s lesson, and will probably continue to do so (and try to suck all the information I can from it! ) but I wondered if anyone else had some things to add!

    Runemist34 replied 14 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Layla Duvay

    October 30, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    I’ve had the EXACT same problem! Veena’s lesson was the only one that got me to even get around the pole, so I signed up here (eternally grateful). Tucks are still hard and my cradle could be better, so I’d also be grateful for any advice! Thanks for this thread

  • Veena

    October 30, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    These move take a good amount of strength because your literally holding all of your body weight and your adding momentum to the weight. Plus the are kinda awkward. Working on moves like pole climbs and make sure to add strength work with your pole if your not progressing. This is important for beginners. There is a reason I have spins in the intermediate section not beginner. I’ll be adding new strength work and beginner moves to the lessons soon. Until then pole climbs can do wonders for strength you can also work on the position in a static position so just holding it not adding momentum.

  • Runemist34

    October 30, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    I never thought of working on the position in static, and not climbing! I’ve noticed that I am getting stronger as I work out more…it’s just hard for me to stick with it very often. I’m trying, though! Thank you for the advice

  • Veena

    October 31, 2009 at 12:22 am

    yes you should try climbing and pole sits Just remember to keep the shoulder back and down at all times.

  • Runemist34

    October 31, 2009 at 1:36 am

    Haha, you have no idea what you’re asking! My shoulders have always been up and tense through my life (I spent most of my life trying to hide, so I was hunched over all the time) so it’s a constant fight to teach my muscles! But I am trying. I’m still working on doing it for my spins! But climbs and sits I can do

  • poledanceromance

    October 31, 2009 at 2:47 am

    Aw you can do it girlie I know you can! I have problems with my shoulders for the same reason, it just takes time and patience and a lot of talking to yourself like a nutterbutter (back and down back and down back and down)

    It took me what seemed like ages to get my cradle pretty. Now I train myself in that position. With my pole on static, I pull myself up around the pole in cradle position and just hold it as long as I can. I can hold it almost a full minute now, and the longer I can hold it for, the prettier my cradles get. Plus, it’s good training for flagpoles! I’ve been practicing a lot of holding positions that way to get better muscle control and it definitely feels like it’s working. Good luck!

  • Runemist34

    October 31, 2009 at 3:23 am

    Hey, speaking of getting moves to be pretty… how does one cause ones spins to be…well, spinnier? I can spin just fine, but it just seems like I go down the pole way too fast, and only get about…maybe three rotations till I’m at the floor? Is that normal (and me just being silly), or is there a way to get more rotation without less speed?
    And I will certainly keep trying…getting into the position is once again sort of difficult! However, I think I’ll get the hang of it eventually. And the shoulders thing, I’ll learn that too… gotta properly support the "girls", right?
    I’ve been thinking that it would really be awesome if I could forget about trying so hard to get into inversions, and really work on making my spins and such better. I’d like to really work on perfecting them, learning about them in great detail. I might even start video taping myself to see what I could do more!

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