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Advice on the Marion Amber?
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I've been most successful entering from the shoulder mount into a pike position, then gripping up behind me with one hand and bracketing down with the other.
I tried the cupped hold (true grip) today and it was much easier. That's the closest I've gotten on it but I'm very comfortable with true grip to begin with.
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Empyrean, I had someone suggest trying to get into the move kinda similarly to you but doing the pike from an inverted crucifix, as if you were going to do the superman that way. I found trying that way meant that the pole was too far back along my thighs (ie. closer to crotch than knees) so I'm trying to envisage where you end up from in piking from the shoulder mount – I don't suppose you have a vid of it?
Charley, every time I think I've figured out what I'm doing wrong with this move, I try it again and have just the same problems! I am determined to get it and you're waaaaaaaaaaay more advanced than me so I have full faith that you'll get there!!
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I can picture the inverted crucifix entry. I wanna try that too now! I can't totally picture the shoulder mount into it, are you removing a hand or threading the leg through the hands as you come up into SM? And how are you getting a bottom hand in place?
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maybe you could push out from a pike position with the leg like veena did it in her new video? otherwise I also think you would be to close to the pole
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Oh I just had a thought, Empy are you going from SM into like a superman/pike gripping the pole in between the legs, then brining a hand down below, while keeping the other hand in place?
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ugh…working on this now, I just can't seem to get my big butt up and my hips square!! getting frustrated!
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dang, had never heard of this move before. I want it tooooo! 🙂
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Ok this one is not easy…sparrow, I need you to spot me. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
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I tried it last night and could NOT get the push out far enough at all. Back to the drawing board!
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OK, Koba, I can try! You know what I need? I need a harness like luvlee had in one of her vids, except on my hips so that it can hold me while I figure out what goes where!!
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Sorry we were traveling yesterday and in LA now..WHOO HOO!….so may not reply soon.
Yes Veena, that's how I was getting into it. Sassle…I simply don't lock it that high up on my thights when I turn over an grab with my legs.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply! I’m sitting at the airport now, we’ll be in Vegas today and leave for la tomorrow morn 🙂
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it helped me a lot to film myself to get this trick. so I could slowly correct my position step by step until i felt balanced
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@ Sparrow- I'm totally getting ideas about rigging a harness up around our hips…I can sit at the top of the pole and when you go up, I'll grab the tie around your waist and hold you up. I think it's doable on our poles. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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@Kobajo–YES!!! Totally doable. LOLOL. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
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hmmm. ok so had a pole flight club last night, and finally remembered that i wanted to try this. true grip actually hurt my top wrist but i did have success with split grip.
came back here and watched other people's videos and realized that i was doing it really differently! instead of sliding the bottom arm down all the way, i was starting with a bent arm, pushing out, and then straighening and sliding the hand down to the right spot. so i was ending with my chest much further away from teh pole, and i was ending totally vertical (like a SG ayesha) instead of the twisted torso i'm seeing in your vids…. must re-try and see if it's easier the other way, i was only able to manage it once successfully. also didn't have any video i think that it would have helped to figure out wtf i was doing wrong each time, haha.
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I wanted to post an update – after a few times practicing this I am having much more success getting into it from the outside leg hang.
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Empyrean, any tips you can offer on getting into it from the leg hang? I'm still struggling with this move – it's so disheartening that every time I try it, I get absolutely no further than the previous times I've tried it:( One of my instructors managed to get it a couple of tries after I'd explained it to her and her sister who also poles came to our studio a few weeks later and did it first time! And even though she's tiny and ridiculously good and strong at pole, it still made me sad:(
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Funny I actually saw one of Marion Crampe doing it from the outside leg hang it but it's not on her page now. I asked her about it and she thought AMBER posted it recently but I still can't find it anywhere!
The thing about doing it from the knee hold is that I felt more familiar with it as it felt a bit similar to turning into the butterfly so it was easier for me that way>
I still prefer the Chinese/True grip as I feel I have more room behind my arm for my leg but everyone is different.
You have to remember to turn your upper torso down and make certain your hips are over your head, and piked up a bit too, even a bit higher than your legs.
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Oh and be careful of the placement of your bottom hand not to place it too low – a bit higher so that you can push out and away from the pole instead of reaching/stretching down which brings your body closer to the pole.
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I was inspired by this thread to try this trick, and I put this video together from working on the MARION AMBER last night. This is my actual learning process, from beginning to end 🙂 I hope you get some laughs out of it! xoxo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5AZbhDilK4
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next up… other entries into it 🙂
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can´t wait to see the different entries!
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just a little combo: Split Grip Marion Amber to Superman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQGm4-ZffX8&list=UUv21GYODaK-XxO-oYg_o_-A&index=1&feature=plcp
Maybe some of you would like to try it, too (sorry for my ugly Marion Amber in this video ^^ )
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aww poo….i thought this move was gonna go away- i guess i have to go back to trying to nail it lol
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