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Am asking because they require far more strength than a basic invert and I don’t want anyone to think it’s something that you HAVE to learn unless. They are great for advancing on to aerial inverts, but depending on your level if deadlifts are focused on too much injury is common. Despite what some may say controlled momentum isn’t a bad thing. 🙂
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That’s great news! Give yourself time and stay with the low resistance as long as they suggest for you. Thank you for the update!
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Thank you for sharing with us!!!!!!
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Can I ask why you feel you need to do a deadlift invert?
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I actually shared this here yesterday! Here’s the other thread with my thoughts and a few others too. It’s a great read, this article and so important. https://www.studioveena.com/forums/view/Overstretching__20151012033608
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Hi tgwalks! Once your skin heals you’ll want to take a look at technique. If you are finding the skin on the foot rips are more than likely over wrapping and over using the foot to climb. A good climbing technique to use for dancing is called a performance climb and will use between the knees for the majority of the lower body work. In fact, once you understand the mechanics of a basic climb you can climb with both feet pointed!!!
These lessons talk about the POC’s of a different climbs and will help you avoid this issue when climbing.
Here is the basic climb where one foot at a time comes to the pole sometimes causing skin rips if the upper body isn’t being used to hold as much as it should be. Basic climbs like this are use to build upper body strength. You don’t need to be using this as your primary climb for dancing this is used for strength building. https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/54c44c66-abbc-4646-ab78-7ef80a9aa0eb
This is the performance climb and it will take pressure off the foot and save energy when dancing! https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/50fd8f5a-d024-4cbb-a4df-74830ac37250
This video also shows how using the right POC’s can allow you to point the foot as well https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/54c66f21-17a8-4c5d-9d98-28780a9aa0eb
I hope it heal quickly for you!!
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When doing caterpillar or moves like Ayesha that require balance I look down towards the floor or the pole, looking up is usually disorientating…usually for some it might work.
The key to a strong caterpillar climb is having a secure grip with the upper body, of course! When climbing in caterpillar this means not moving the body straight out away from the pole, but rather off to the side and over towards the shoulder of the bent arm, this is super important to know and will safe you having to muscle through a Cat. Climb. When, using a forearm grip you literally feel like you’re hugging the pole, and for either grip the shoulder of the bent arm will more towards the pole, NOT stay in the center….the lesson has a visual for this.
As for the 2 grips elbow and forearm it seems people with longer limbs like forearm (not all but in general) and shorter feel secure in elbow. My guess would be with longer limbs it’s nice to have extra stability with the forearm and hand, because you are farther from the pole than if you had shorter arms. Nether is right or wrong. But the technique is a bit different as far as where the body moves to, as in center or more off the the side of the pole. People are often surprised at how much easier the caterpillar climb is when done this way. I talk about both grips in these lessons….
Forearm grip https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/4d10f457-834c-45b0-8448-3b550ac37250
Elbow grip https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/4d136614-c770-45fc-aa64-24320ac37250
Phoenix, a common misunderstanding with the forearm grip is assuming the entire forearm to the wrist, should run along the pole and nothing else (other than hand) is used a POC. However, you DO use the elbow pit in addition to the hand. Depending on the structure of the arm bones some will have significant pole contact with the forearm, and other not much at all. I’m thinking of making a lesson to look closer at these two options. 🙂 You can think of it as an elbow grip then rotating the shoulder allowing you to grip the pole.
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That sounds like a great plan Polebravely!
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I would wait to start any of the programs here as they are both complete, meaning I cover the whole body! However If you wanted you could just skip any exercise that did use the lat, I do have muscles use listing in most descriptions making it easy for you to tell. 🙂
I have a good bit of floor work and some routines that focus on lower body that you would work on while you heal!
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In the descriptions for the 30 days to flexy I list what day may be combined with training (strength) days. You’ll find that the program does include strength building because it’s also an important aspect of gaining flexibility. 🙂
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Congratulations! That’s exciting and thank you for letting us know! If you’re interested I have a teacher training course that’s free and works well as a guide for any new instructors that come in. https://www.studioveena.com/methods/letter
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Hellakkat, if you really are in love with the idea of wearing them, maybe focus on floor work and just come up with a few pole combos that don’t require the shin on the pole. Side climbs and gemini climbs and such are a good option.
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REST! Let us know what the dr said! I hope you feel better soon!
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Don’t let yourself get discouraged right away! Pole is a progression and for most you need to start off with strength building and conditioning moves in order to get to the point of holding your own body weight! Not being able to lift your feet off the ground is very normal and regardless of size anyone can learn to pole and enjoy benefits from it!
The 30 day take off program is perfect for new dancers and takes you though 30 days of tasks and tips to help you gain the strength, flexibility and knowledge to pole with less frustration and injury! You will also find many routines here for both strength building and warming up. You can see what the lessons have to offer for 3 days free if you use this code! GET3FREE. The lessons here are all placed in progressive order so unlike learning on your own you’ll have guidance and even the ability to contact me directly on any move you have questions on!
Lee lee is very right when it comes to not comparing your progress with others, so try to keep that in mind…I know it’s not easy! 🙂 Any progress is good progress!!!!
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You’re not alone in starting off strong and learning to muscle through moves, it happens! It’s good that you are taking time to focus on technique it will help prevent injury in the long run.
I would suggest going through the 30 day take off program even though you’ve been dancing 2 years. You can do the tasks for the day and then add on pole work you would like to do in addition to the tasks, since you’re not new to pole.
You might also want to check out the Veena Method training course as it has a lot of info on why I teach the way I do. https://www.studioveena.com/methods/letter
Also they are right that coming down from an invert can be very difficult if you’re not holding yourself correctly. I suggest using what I call a V out where you use a Pole Hold or bottom hand true hold https://www.studioveena.com/galleries/view/4f876907-572c-4a16-8295-43a90ac37250 to lower down. The Pole hold V out is listed as an advanced exit in the basic invert lesson here https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/50eafb60-e868-4d1b-bc49-75780ac37250