Rachel Osborne
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This thread is making me feel gloomy.
I have ordered a chrome 45 xpert after endless angst because
A. Is what I train on at studios
B. is available now from xpole us vs waiting til mid June
C. I have heard things about TG not being great in humidity/ colour fading and brass being too soft and flexi/getting damaged/needing too much cleaning.But I still wish I was getting a TG.
I hope my chrome breaks in with all the vinegar/rubbing alcohol/new x pole cleaner I’m planning on using…It’s 80of here and sticky all year.
I hope my new pole is grippy enough… -
Ooooh! Well done! 🙂 flexi-fantastic and much less complicated than her way.
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I think she does…
Outside leg hang like she’s about to Cupid
Bend bottom leg into knee grip and adjust hands to flag hold whilst getting into splits
Let go with arms
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It’s got to be that youtube one. ^^^
It’s completely mental.
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Might be worth remembering to go out wearing decoy gym sneakers and packing booty shorts in bag or wearing under gym leggings! Heh heh…
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I’m going to a strength/flexibility conditioning class usually covers it for me.
‘Oh, body weight resistance exercises, mostly. Crunches. Pull ups on a bar. Stretching….’Most people glaze over quite quickly.
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Hello – maybe check this thread?
https://www.studioveena.com/forums/view/Talk_to_me_about_hyper_elasticity_and_pole_20140425023017Super flexi can mean extra issues…
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I had this (still get it if I don’t concentrate). Lots of pole tucks, pull ups and making sure I was correctly positioned – see Veena and Ariael Amy chopper lessons. Knees to elbows, pole in soft ‘hip pocket’ not on ribs and standing slightly in front of pole. If your tuck pull up isn’t controlled or you jump into inverts you will likely hurt yourself so steady and do all the strengthening prep to stay safe!
Basically revisit Veena and do these exercises
http://aerialamy.com/blog/2012/01/03/tuesday-tips-upper-body-pole-conditioning/ -
Lululemon is popular here but not cheap…
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I hadn’t done mixed levels before I moved here but I think it can work very well – definitely if everyone is taking a basic move and then more advanced students adding to it – like basic stag spin/sun wheel then the experienced students try it one-armed, or backwards, or extending leg or whatever, then everyone tries linking/floor work/transitions. That way new students can see what the basic move can develop into and the more advanced students can return to basic spins but with perfect form and added twists. The challenge is if half the class wants to invert and do tricks and the new ones are still struggling to climb or sit. An instructor can’t spot everyone at once!
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Ok that worked
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I will have a go…
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You know, I couldn’t do a headstand when I was 20. Lost my splits at 30. Spent my mid thirties overweight and out of condition. Thought it was all down hill into elastic waistbands, flat shoes, one pieces and sarongs on the beach, middle aged spread and needing help to open jar lids.
Ha! Now in my 40s I wear 6 inch heels, whilst inverted in a string bikini top and hot pants. I can climb a pole at the playground using just arms and you need that jar unscrewed? Stand back baby. Thank you pole! Rock on thread contributors. Mwah xx you are awesome and magnificent. Thank you all 🙂
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So if I have metal joists I should definitely not use a tension pole?
Because any up-pressure into the flexing joist and it’s game over?
In which case, a Veena/Mynx or PS looks best bet – am assuming drilling a ceiling mount into a metal joist is less likely to cause up-flex than bracing against a joist?
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Agreed. It’s a basic dancer stretch. Well, a basic fitness stretch, touching toes.
Beighton test is really a first point of call for general practitioners with 10 mins to assess patients though I think. For most people coming to a dr complaining of joint pain in a surgery a quick ‘can you put palms to floor with straight legs’ would be a challenge and combined with the other tests could give a GP an idea… Having said that no GP has ever considered hypermobility when I’ve presented with joint pain or injury. I always have to tell them then self-refer to a physio or sports osteo.
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Joist not joint damn you Iphone
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Thanks v much for that. I can see why small area of high-intensity stress could cause too much pressure (damage to wood floors from stilettos comes to mind).
Aren’t steel joints quite common though? I can’t believe x pole has survived endless disgruntled householders with trashed ceilings and minimal publicity all these years.
Also surely the stress on a small area of a slim steel joist of a pole bolted in instead of tension-braced is about the same (bit vague about physics so possibly completely wrong here)
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^^ excellent post! I have never seen it explained so clearly. Also women who aren’t yoga/pilates/dance-trained but very fit might well experience same issues.
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Thanks v much for replies. He used an electronic stud finder and we located three joists all running 16 inches apart. We also did the knock/tap rest. We marked them with pencil and he suggested using a small nail or smallest possible drill bit to check when installing.
He knows zip about pole installation and I said I wanted to install a vertical bar / piece of exercise equipment that used either a spreader plate to hold in place and was removable and tension mounted, or had a small permanent attachment the size of a plant hook to screw into.
I was a bit confused by his musings on ‘new build aluminium joists’ as I thought well, our ceiling is our neighbours floor and it must be strong enough to support that! And aluminium is soft – why would it be used in joists? Maybe he meant metal (as opposed to wood/rCJ) and he was worried about it flexing with a spreader plate braced up and pushing against it?
But I should have thought x- poles were used in thousands of new build homes with these kind of steel joists?
I would rather not drill in as we rent – but I don’t want to trash the ceiling either! The place we are in is about a dozen years old or less.
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You’re not sensitive to any of the pole cleaning products or the metal of the pole are you? Just asking cos a girl in one class I go to gets sore skin from the alcohol.
The bruising and nipping/tenderness and sore muscles is normal when learning new tricks though 🙁
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Yes I am poised to order – as long as I find out if my apparently aluminium ceiling joists can handle it (see other thread).
Still nothing apart from ‘new stock in May’ on the USA site.
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Bumping thread cos found this handy sports physio article
http://thesportsphysio.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/hypermobility-and-sport/Also to say I did yoga today and there was an instructor in the class who was hypermobile herself and gave me some good tips as one hypermobile person to another:
Work within the normal range of motion for a normal/beginner person, never at your max extension, especially when inverting or doing ‘bound’ moves ( in pole this would be flexy moves or TG etc where you’re out of natural body alignment)
Rather than push out and into a move, try to find the correct position and then close in on the move by firmly supporting yourself in it with awareness of all your body parts working harmoniously and powerfully together.
Try to think about opening the body and enfolding into a move – creating space and gentle strength in the muscles instead of stretching, hanging, forcing or flopping.
Use breath work to control and stay steady and strong. If in doubt go slow, slow, slower leaving yourself room to deepen the move after a few breaths. Never push straight into full extension: work at 60% of where you could go and with perfect form, breathe into 75%, hold it with 100% attention.
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I noticed you were managing it with a bent to arm but dirdy’s top arm is straight? Also she starts by arching and looking at the ceiling, all her energy is about arching up – then bending the bottom arm in to bring her head to the pole, then she’s still looking up as she does the reach across chest to grab pole and roll?
Hope you get it! I can’t wait to try it:) it’s a lovely move
