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I love the sh*t people say vids. I thought the "sh*t yogis say" vid that lululemon made was hilarious, and after watching it I tried to look for a pole dance one on youtube but didn't find any. Thanks to those who posted links to some 😀
sh*t pole dancers say:
"I think I could do a chopper on that stop sign."
"I dunno, I don't really feel like going out tonight. Oh, there's a pole there? I'm in."
"Wanna see my pole bruise? Don't worry it's just on my shin."
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I can understand that kcfl5. Yeah anyone following all your boards will see if you pin pole stuff. I'm pretty open with family and everyone I know about pole so I pin what I want, and figure they don't have to follow my pole board in particular if they don't want to see when I pin pole stuff. It's funny though, my SIL who doesn't pole was actually looking for pics of yoga poses to pin and found a pole pose that exhibited some impressive flexibility so she pinned it to her yoga board. My sister saw it and didn't even look to see who pinned it, she just assumed I did. When she asked me later about it I was like "wha…?".
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I remember being obsessed with that song when that movie came out. I say do it, it's myserious, almost dark even. I think it would make a great pole song.
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Haha, yay! When I first started my board I wondered if I was the only poler on there cause I rarely saw any pole pics but now I'm subscribed to a few others and make a point to collect them 😀
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Yeah, really good comments. Black Orchid, I think it's cool that you forget that some people don't understand pole dance, I think it means you are a positive person and anticipate positive from others. I agree though, it can be a shock to come accross people who don't see it as a positive thing even though it's such a positive thing for us.
"It doesn't make me feel better when they separate what I do ( "oh you are more artistic than th eother pole dancers I've seen etc")…I don't want that divide! That's snobbery."
I agree, and yet, I'm still not totally into the stripper aspect. Even though I love the sensual aspect of pole dance I can't get into some of the more graphic stipper-ish moves. I'm still trying to figure out if that's just residual from my conservative upbrining or if it just simply isn't my style. Like for instance the extreme platform style heels that are iconically known as stripper heels, for some reason they just look like hooves to me and I can't figure out if I truly just don't like the aesthetic of them or if it's just leftover conservative programming. I love how high heels in general look and love wearing them, just not "strippah" ones. Go figure.
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Maybe people feel that way because stripping as a profession is often seen as something women would only do as a last resort, and that it's degrading for any woman who does it (It can be, but so can working in the fast food industry). So in a way, taking pole dance out of the stripping/sex industry context and doing it for your own enjoyment is the ultimate act of feminism, kind of taking the activity back for your own control and enjoyment rather than having to do it for the enjoyment of someone else. Sometimes I don't get people, they don't want somone else to enjoy your sexuality, they don't want you to enjoy your sexuality, who is supposed to benefit from it then? From a feminism standpoint, there are actually some extreme feminists who believe makeup, high heels, or basically anything women do to beautify themselves is a form of societal sexual slavery. Thankfully there are also feminists who are more balanced and validate those things and enjoy them.
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I love everything you are about Lu, good luck and have fun with it 😀
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She is one of the youtube polers that first inspred me too. And not just because of the fact that she pole danced beautifully, but on her youtube profile she said she suffered from social anxitety which I also have as well. I wonder what she's up to and I hope she's doing ok….
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I'm in the process of deciding which freestanding stage pole to get and this review is extremely helpful, thank you! Before watching this I was leaning towards x-pole but seeing that the weight and setup time for SSA is much less I'm seriously considering that one. It's also really nice to know about the tendency of the base plates to pop up on the SSA, I just need to decide if the lower weight and shorter set-up time are going to be worth it to me.
To those saying they thought this comparison looked like a paid infomercial, It would have been irresponsible of Veena to do a demo of these two products side by side and *not* demonstrate the SSA plates popping up, and other issues with it. I think asking her to leave those things out is asking her to be bias toward PS by ommission of any legitimate issues with it.
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I agree Ronia, a lot of the videos show it from a man's perspective, the girls don't even look like they are enjoying themselves, they're like booty popping zombies. That part I find sad. I do get giddy tho when I see pole in ANYTHING like a shoutout to pole, haha.
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I second that! I was talking to someone about teaching pole and they started telling me how I should make a website and create online lessons and a community since pole dance is so obscure, and I was like "uuhhh, already been done!". And done so well that no other site has come close. You two are a great team.
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I believe you're right Moonflower. PaytonPlays has some pretty in depth opinions on the inner workings of companies in the pole world for a recreational poler. She claims to know things about the owner of x-pole and his dealings with studios, she claims to know about pole competitions and what the competitors use, and which studios use what, as well as things about the whole pole dance demographic. Although the opinions she draws from her "knowledge" are thinly supported.
At first I thought maybe she really doesn't know better, which is why I responded, but it appears she knows exactly what she's doing. It's sad cause PS makes good poles. I think of thier permanent poles as ideal for studio use, and xpoles as ideal for recreational use or for studios that need to set up and take down poles in diff locations. PaytonPlays seems like she's trying to support PS but she's just making PS look really really bad by association alone.
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PP demonstrates rather in depth knowledge (or i should say opinion) of the pole world and related companies and company owners for a brand new recreational poler from MA. Hmmmm….
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I def give props to chicks who can handle the stripper scene. I think if you break it down, it's really really really good acting. I definitely couldn't pretend to like random guys at strip-clubs enough to validate them for their money.
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Good luck on your journey! I think your plan sounds like a great starting point. When I started learning more about nutrition I cut down on refined breads and other starchy "filler" stuff and replaced them with whole grains like brown rice, and also beans, kinda like you 🙂 Whenever I try to cut down on something I like to replace it with something else, like instead of simply cutting out hot chocolate (one of my fave treats in the winter that I used to drink daily) I make tea instead. Just remember to stay focused. If you decide to eat something that's not in your plan, don't mentally punish yourself over it! Evaluate if it was worth it: if you wanted to treat yourself and thoroughly enjoyed it, then it was probably a good thing, just as long as you return to your plan and stick with it most of the time you will do fine.
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Seems like youtube has a wealth vids on the subject! For pole specific strength building I sometimes sit on the floor and grip the pole with my hands like I would if I'm doing a pole sit, and I do an assisted pole up in that position. It allows you to have the upper body form of doing a pole up, but without having to lift your full body weight since your legs are still resting on the ground, and you can also use your legs to assist you by pushing slightly against the gound with your feet. Just remember to only assist with your lower body as much as you need to in order to be able to complete the pole up movement. I did this especially a lot after I had my baby and was nowhere near being strong enough to do an unassisted pole-up.
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Regaining my pole strength after having my baby was my biggest accomplishment. It seemed much harder the second time around but I've now surpassed the level I was at when I had to stop inverting because of pregnancy. Congrats on everyone elses accomplishments as well!
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Yesss! Thanks Veena 🙂 I love the foam roller lessons.
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Yeah, Veena's humidifier tip is stellar. I have the worst grip in winter when the air is cold and dry, but once when i was congested I put a pot of water on the stove to boil with some essential oils in it, and I noticed that the little bit of humidity added to the air made me have much better grip on my pole. I prob should not have been trying to pole while I was sick, lol. But once i figured out that my grip was better I can't really blame myself for not staying off it. Take note that increasing humidity won't help your grip if you're already in a hot and humid climate.
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"Shame on this web site for not promoting all companies and products Thi should be a non-bias website promoting pole, not companies."
And I think you misunderstand the concept of free speech and capitalism. Free speach and capitalism doesn't mean that you or I or studioveena has a responsibility to promote all companies equally. It means we have the freedom to promote and give business to the ones we value the most, which is what is happening here. Since when is it the responsiblity of one business to promote all other related businesses equally? I give StudioVeena.com my business because I value the lessons, the forum, and the opinions of (most) of the other members here.
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PlaytonPlays, I find the entitlement in the tone of your post disturbing, and the logic you use to draw conclusions severly flawed. Most of us here know Veena likes X-poles and offers them for sale on her website, but I've never seen her slander other pole dealers. To go a step further, I have actually seen her acknowledge the value of other leading pole brands. There's nothing sneaky about the way she does business. She's been more than professional in the way that she promotes her pole of choice while still maintaining respect for other pole dealers. Anyone can become an X-pole affiliate and get a "kickback" from making x-pole sales through their own website. Pole dancers visit Veena's website because she has created a valuable resource for pole dancers in her forums and her online lessons. It would be silly for her to not offer poles for sale. I considered Platinum stages and Lil minx when I considered buying a pole because they were also recommended in the forums on StudioVeena, but I chose x-pole for its versatility and ease of use. It suited my needs better. A less important factor was that I didn't care for the branding of PS and LM.
You expressed:
"Thi should be a non-bias website promoting pole, not companies. It's my opinon that a website like this should be a free forum to the consumers. Studio veena closed a thread on Platinum Stages Poles when all they did was try to give clerification on their poles and how they were made… This is a free country, based on capitalism. This site obviously does not believe in the American approach to free speech."
StudioVeena.com is a Company. I'm surprised you were not aware of that. Companies fill a need by creating something of value to sell to customers. Often times, as a service to their customers, companies will recommend related products to their customers if they believe their customers will also value it. Obviously, a lot of people on StudioVeena value X-poles. You have expressed that you don't, and that's fine. They way that you expressed it was extremely immature and uninformed, so as a natural result you can expect that your opinion will not be held in high regard. As for the thread that you complained was deleted; For any poster on an online forum, it's common courtesy to stay on topic and respect the guidelines of the moderators. It's especially *UN*professional for a representative of one company to post on the forum of another company and not stay on topic, and further disregard a moderators request to stay on topic.
I think Veena is a great example of how to promote what you love without backbiting and trolling competitors, which is probably why so many people frequent her forums and support her business.
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I hear ya! There are no places for public displays of pole love in my town, not even a pole studio or strip club. There is a bar an hour away that has a pole that I'm planning to visit, and Las Vegas is a two hour drive away with plenty of options. So I just do what I can. I try to keep a sense of humor and patience when people make the pole dance/stripper comparison. I can't blame them that the only exposure they've had to pole dance is the strip-club form. Although i have seen a lot of progress made, even just in the last year as far as awareness of the sport independent of the strip club scene. People who know I pole dance are always saying things like "I saw this in the news about pole fitness" or "did you see this video on youtube of the girl walking in mid-air on a pole?". So that is encouraging. I do wish there were more opportunities for me to do amatuer performances and more of a local pole community here because that can get lonely, but I try to see that as an opportunity for me. I've started teaching pole parties at a local Zumba studio on weekends. Having the goal of booking parties has been a nice way to share what I love (hopefully in time it can also pay for the cost of the poles! haha, i've only taught two parties so far). In the beginning it did wear me down when I didn't have an encouraging experience for a while and people just seemed to be unaware or unnaccepting, but now I can look back and see the progress. Whatever you do, don't shelve your love of pole! If you want to do it, continue to do it. If you want to share the love, continue to casually mention it here and there as though you would any other hobby. I think there's a lot of power in that 🙂
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That costume idea sounds cool jenny, I like the idea of making everyday clothes, or pieces you already have into a costume concept. I think it comes off more authentic.
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I think it would be possible to alter or modify whatever you can find in a dance magazine, or just order pieces of a costume, like the booty shorts and bra top and add tulle or feathers or rhinestones to them. I really like the dance pieces on this website, I have no idea how much their costume pieces cost, I've just been using their designs as inspiration for making my own.
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Right now I'm just starting out teaching. I have my ACE group fitness certification and I got a business license. I had my husband make me a webpage and I have a facebook page for networking also. I found a local studio that teaches zumba, ballroom, hula, and bellydance and met with the owners and asked if I could use their studio to teach pole classes and parties when they don't have any scheduled classes. I do all my own advertising and I pay them 40% of whatever I charge. It seemed like the best option for me to build up a clientele without having the overhead cost of my own studio space, but still provide a nice studio atmosphere for my students. It is a little tricky working around the dance studio's schedule, but not too bad, and the fact that I don't have to pay anything when I'm not teaching classes is worth it.
