[landra]

speaking from personal experience, i bought a carmen pole from spencer and WASTED $160. only way i found that it works effectively, is if you have a house where you can have it BOLTED to the ceiling otherwise, no. I’m pissed that I didn’t read this before now so now i have to buy another one. don’t get this if you are an apt/condo and the roof isn’t yours to pry it into.