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what a talented bunny! did you see the combo where it goes from a back knee hook into a chopper and back down through a extended butterfly? soooo cute
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sorry for that tipp and thanks amy for the correction. Good you read before she could try ^^
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this happens to me at the end of a long practice when I loose strenght, so you maybe still need some extra strenght to keep your legs completely straight.
have you tried it with only one leg straight?
you can also work on the reverse motion to gain more strenght for this tricks, just lower your body very slowly from the inverted V and keep your legs all the way down in a V until your body is vertical and you get back to the floor.
Good Luck!
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so interesting to read all the different opinions and experiences. all programs seem to be worth the money. I think I´ll get the cert from discoveries pole dance first as it seems to cover also beginner to advanced move and I don´t have a lot of money at the moment (I´m a student^^), maybe I can later take some other certs which only focus on one level
I also found a online group fitness certification in germany, which also is not too expensive. I hope I can get this one in future, too. But until I have the money for that one, I found some great books on amazon which cover at least what you theoretical would learn.
I really like that there is a lot of anatomy covered. One of my school leaving examination was in sports, so I already learned a lot about training theory and kinetics, but anatomy was only very little covered.
Does anyone know more about the videos Legend mentioned? I have no problem teaching in english as most I read about pole dance is anyway in english, but what if my student doesn´t understand some terms? Is it okay if you sometimes repeat things for your student in your language if she doesn´t undertand?
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that´s great. I´m still considering whether I should get also the VD training or this one: http://www.discoveriesdance.com/#!distance-course
did you get the training with the fitness module?
I really want to learn something about anatomy, too, but it would cost more at verticaldance while discoveriesdance already includes it for a lower price.
here´s my facebook account: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1257823636
would be great to hear something about your experiences!
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thanks RoseMay, that´s a great idea. I also recommend my other students to keep the arms slightly bend to make it easier to keep the arms engaged.
Seems to be a good and easy resolution for everyone.
It was her first pole class, so we didn´t do any split grips yet and it´ll need still a lot of time until we get there. I teach those when they can do some easy one-handed spins, so when we get to the split grip spins they can take of the pressure of the lower arm and wrist a bit while spinning.
I didn´t know that way to teach split grips, I´ll have to try that and see whether I´ll gonna teach it like this, too. For holds I teach it also with a bend bottom arm, because that´s a lot easier, but for spins I used the technic I described above where nearly no weight is on the lower arm.
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i wouldn´t practice every day, too. I sometimes don´t have a rest day between two practices, but if I one day practiced tricks which need a lot of strenght (like different air inverts), I´ll do some easier stuff the next day. like tricks which need more leg strenght or flexiblity or just transitions or floorwork.
If you use the same muscle groups every time a lot you will progress slower.
For me it´s the same with stretching, I progress a lot faster when I have a rest day. But it´s very individual with stretching (although most I talked to seemes to prefer one or two rest days, too). Just try which way works best for you.
Especially as a beginner you should be careful. You will get problems with your wrist and shoulders if you practice too much. And once you are injured and can´t practice at all for days (or even weeks) you will regret it.
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hey aryanna, i know this is an old thread…. but have you found out some new information or even got certified online? I´m planning to get an online certification in the future, too, once I have enough money ^^
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that´s exactly what I thought first paulette. I don´t want her to injure anything of course while I teach her. It would be horrible for me if one of my students ever would get injured during my class!
That´s why I corrected her. I think I will ask her next time, if it´s okay for her if she won´t hyperextend her arms (at least during pole classes)
But what should I do if she doesn´t want to break the habit for pole dancing? I don´t want to stop teaching her of course, but I also don´t want to teach something I don´t stand behind…
And also important I don´t to force her to anything she doesn´t feel comfortable with.
On one side it´s her body of course and her decision what she expects of it, but on the other side I´m responsible for the health of my students during my class.
I´m really doubtful now….
it´s seems to be so individual, I think the only thing I can do is to decide together with her how to handle it. I really hope she will break the habit, so that there will be no risk to injure her arms. I think she´ll understand that I´m responsible for the health of my students during classes.
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sorry to hear that they didn´t allow you to represent studioveena, but I think it was very kind of them to offer you some alternatives!
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does this mean you try to never hyperextend your knees or elbows dustbunny?
I think I also read that when you don´t break the habit, the joints can get really damaged and sometimes even a operation is neccessary (of course after a lot of years), but in some comment it sounds like some don´t get trouble from hyperextending their joints.
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sorry to hear that mrsnaughtywed! Such comments really suck…. on youtube are many creepy people, I think that´s why they offer the possibility to read every comment and decide on your own if you´re okay with it and make it public.
I haven´t use this option yet and got my first bad comment, too. Someone wrote under one of my tutorial that it´s boring. I told him that this is nothing to entertain people, but made for those who want to learn something and he doesn´t have to watch it. Afterwards he sent me a private message instead of adding another mean comment. he told me I should add music or whatever. I think he didn´t understand the sense of a tutorial…
I was very happy when another girl (who poled) wrote under my video and supported me and my tutorials.
As long as it doesn´t get private I don´t care about it. And there are some videos I only post here, because I know that everyone here´s supportive and I won´t get mean comments, no matter what I do ^^
Keep it up and ignore them!
PS Just noticed that i recently watched your newest video and love it. I´ve no idea how someone gets to the result that you could be stripper or whatever, because it´s definitly sporty
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just wanted to add this link: http://www.misspoledancecanada.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6
you can read here how you can get into the competition. It´s from 2011, but I´m sure it´ll be the same next year or at least nearly the same =)
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I don´t know something about this competition, but I´m sure if you don´t find someone here who can answer your question, you will find a homepage and someone there who you can ask.
I never competed, but I read a lot here on the forum. If you search for competition, you will find many useful tipps for preparing and also for the competition itself.
Do you know when (in which month maybe) the competition will be? So you could make a plan what tricks you want to master (and have the time to master^^), when to start with the choreo, make the outift,….
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very good comparison with the rope cinara!
it seems that it is very individual from person to person and also from trick to trick which arm position feels good and which not.
I really will try to make her sensible for this and tell her to listen to her body and let me know everything. I think this will be the most important part to allow her progressing fast and secure.
(besides the strenght exercises of course)
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thanks again for your help gummypia. I´m sure my student will profit from all you experiences!
Especially your thoughts and tipps on the strenghening exercises will help a lot!
I´ll have to look for some chaturanga exercises on youtube, I never tried those.
@rosemay: I always told my students to keep their arms engaged and the easiest way to do it, is to keep them slighlty bend especially during pole holds or the basic invert. this might be the same principle as holding a heavy weight. for most strenght exercises you learn to keep the working bodypart in tension, for example when doing crunches you don´t lie down between the repetitions. I think this is better for the joints. It´s definitly good what you learned! ^^
If my student has no problems with keeping her arms slightly bend, I will tell her to do so, because I think this is the safest way. But if it will be a problem with her hyperflexible elbows, I´ll let her do it in her own way.
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thanks so much for your input gummypia!
you totally changed my view.
I read that you can easily injure yourself when you put pressure on hyperextended joints, because they are less supported. But maybe that´s not for everyone true.
I will still try the plank exercise with her, but with both arm positions (her natural one and the natural one for other), so she can see which one feels stronger and safer. then I´ll go on to try it on the pole.
If I won´t correct her arm position and let her place them in her most comfortable way, I will of course need her feedback a lot. Because I can´t know how she feels or whether her elbows feels sore, but I´m sure she´ll let me know when I ask her. =)
I also might ask her a bit more about her sport past and how she used to handle it with her elbow in other sports.
Are there differences for you when doing spins or static holds, split grip or basic grip? do you maybe prefer for one to keep your arms straight and for other to hyperextend them?
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thank you all for the great tipps. this really helps me a lot as I had no experiences with hyperflexible joints before!
I will definitly try the Plank when she comes next time. This will be a great exercise for her to get used to keeping her elbow bend while doing something which needs strenght. Then she hopefully will learn to do it during spins and holds, too.
I will also focus on doing more arm strenght exercises with her than i normally do with students to disburden her elbows. I think keeping the arms bend is already for a "normal" beginner student sometimes hard, but for her it might be extra hard, so I´m sure this will help her and she will need some extra strenght!
@solsticedark: I will ask her next time if she wants to break that habit. For pole dancing she won´t have the choice, but it would be great if she would do it in her complete life, because this would also make it easier for her to do it while being on the pole. The idea with the pads sounds great, although I´m not sure if she would feel comfortable with that. But maybe we could try something similiar strap of tape on the inside of her elbows, so that when she hyperextends her arms she will feel the tension and can correct it.
If I won´t find a item that can remind her, I´ll be her reminder. But it would be a lot better if she would notice it on her own.
Thanks again! Any additional information are still welcome of course!
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just wanted to add that it is also important how thight your pole is. i sometimes loosen mine a bit when i don´t spin enough and when i like it a bit slower i tighten it ^^
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i love spinning mode! i think the others mentioned already the most important points.
i think on spinning mode it´s very important to know what comes next. if you start with a trick where your body or parts of it are far away and the next trick will be really close to the pole you have to start with less momentum.
if you start close to the pole and will get more away from it with the next trick you won´t spin too fast.
i also have a little tutorial on spinning mode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqKszB7Y-Ns
it´s not as detailed as amy´s tipps, but maybe it also will help you ^^
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very cute idea! would be a nice xmas card for friends =) i love cutting out pole photos, too. i just made a tshirt for my boyfriend with some silhouettes of me on the pole.
how do you sent the silhouettes? just as a image on the computer or as poster?
wish you good luck with your idea!
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i love the to do a shoulder dismount into a shoulder mount planche/stag and then a sm flip. i really love that combo.
but i think the suggestion to work on your shoulder mount v is really good. it´s looks much better when you can hold the position and don´t place your legs directly on the pole.
you could also do a shoulder mount tuck or jacknife
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no problem 🙂 when there aren´t any new lessons, there are the featured lessons instead.
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Hey 40andlovingit!
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not sure wheather you mean with "step around" what i think. if you mean going around the complete pole with one step, that´s exactly what i like to teach before starting with spins.
first i tell them to keep always one foot on the ground. when they can do it without problems i allow my students to lean out further and use a bit more momentum so that for a little moment both feet are off the ground.
the first spin after this which i teach is the fireman spin. i think it´s easier to keep the arms engaged than in the front/back knee hooks. you´re close to the pole, have a lot of leg contact to the pole and it´s not so difficult to get momentum for this one.
you could also try some transitions with some spin. for example you make a half turn with both hands on the pole and let yourself spin around the pole down to the floor with the back on the pole. so the beginning would be the same as for a back knee hook, but the weight will stay on your outside foot
