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Something that I try to remember when I'm watching videos of these amazing kids do pole routines I couldn't even imagine doing, but that have very little true emotion in them is that, well, they're kids. Being able to put emotion into a dance comes from having experienced that emotion. From having lived with pain, fear, hurt, anger, joy and love. At nine or ten years old most kids haven't had the life experiences (or been able to cognatively process them) in a way that lets them truly express emotions through dance.
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Yeah, guys just have the advantage in the upper body strength area. The guy that I do acro and pole with dead lifted into his iron X in the first 6 months of poling. I'm still trying to do that. But ask him to do anything that requires any flexibility…. Yeah, that isn't happening any time soon!
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x-ankle climb, invert (legs straight), gemini, jasmine, scorpio, flatline scorpio, butterfly, extended butterfly, straightedge, jackknife, reverse crucifix, hip hold, jade, meathook (I think that's what it's called) is kind of my go-to combo.
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I wouldn't worry about tan lines. I've spent tons of time working in clubs, I always have really obvious tan lines all summer and no one has ever had a problem with it. I think guys actually tend to like to see girls with tan lines because it means that you're outside doing real stuff rather than laying in a tanning bed.
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Wow…
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I've always been more guy-ish than girly. All through my life I've had more male friends than female ones, mostly because I didn't "get" girls. Other than pole my favorite activities are things like hunting, fishing, working on my house (and other things that are excuses to have a huge shop full of tools).
When I dance I never wear heels unless I'm at work – and even then I take them off when I get on stage. My actual dancing seems to be able to switch back and forth pretty fluidly from a "sexy" style to a "crazy-tricks-and-strength" style, although I usually prefer the latter over the former.
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Another thing that sometimes works to keep animals out of gardens (if there's not a real overpopulation causing them to compete for food) is planing plants they hate intermixed with the ones they love. I mix in things like allium (which is a member of the onion family that has really cool flowers in mid-spring) mondara (also called bee balm, mint family, also very pretty flowers) aconitim (also called monkshood, wolf's bane, POISONOUS – don't use if you have dogs or kids that like to chew on plants, pretty blue-purple flowers).
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Check out http://www.gardenweb.com It's an awesome gardening forum. Someone on there has an answer for just about any question you've got. I also like http://www.davesgarden.com – it's another good gardening forum, and it has a fairly helpful guide to online nurseries.
@ dustbunny – I think the plant that you're referring to with the pink and purple flowers and spotted leaves is Pulmonaria. It's one of my favorites too, partly because it's so hardy (important to those of us up here in northern MN) and grows anywhere sun or shade. And the flowers are gorgeous!
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How old are you? 33
How long have you been pole-dancing? 15 years
What got you into pole dancing? Stripping. My first night I saw some of the other girls doing things that looked like they defied gravity. I knew I would do whatever it took to do that too.
Why pole dancing and not something else?/What makes pole dancing special to you? I've always loved the challenge that pole presents in learning new moves and finding new ways to combine them. I took regular dance classes (ballet, jazz) through college and loved them, but pole was even better. It's is a physical and mental challenge like no other and at the same time it's FUN! I'm drawn to any activity where one of the muscles that hurts after a workout is my stomach from laughing so hard.
How did you first find out about Studio Veena? How much time do you spend on here? (hours a day/week/month) I was on youtube trying to figure out how to do a pole move and one of Veena's videos popped up. After watching the video, got the move on the first try – and decided I needed the rest of the lessons as soon as I could afford them! Usually I'm on the site 10-15 min a day (I'm kinda a lurker) unless there's something I'm following or I'm trying to learn a new move – then it's more.
How did you choose your tag (AKA User Name)? It's my name and last initial.
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Both outfits are cute – but when deciding what to wear you might want to think about how much they ask you to take off during the audition and how long do you have to do it? If the audition is one song (which is really common) and you have to end up as naked as the club allows well before the end of the song (which is also really common) less is better. Less straps, less clasps, less everything. Also, for an audition you want a outfit that is easy to put back on. You may have to put all or part of it back on at the stage, while management is talking to you. Or, if they're auditioning a lot of girls at once and don't have a ton of time you may only get half the outfit off before they decide they've seen enough to know they want to hire you. So pick something that looks good half off.
So, since they're both awesome, I would probably go with the first outfit for practical reasons. I think that taking the second one off could have more potential problems (bra clasps catching on the side of the leotard, straps getting tangled in each other) it would be harder to just pull the second one back on fast if you needed to, and the first one will look better if you only get the top off.
Also, do yourself a favor and, no matter what costume you get, do get a real stripper thong. Someplace like Snaz75.com carries them and they're worth it. The wider backed ones (where it looks like a strip of fabric up the back instead of a string) are really common in most clubs right now. They're waaaay more comfortable and they don't have the tendency to slide around that thongs from places like Target do.
Ok…. that was way long winded. But I've seen too many new and newish girls have costume problems during auditions and I don't want it happening to you!
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Good luck! Just a word of caution – I've auditioned in (and danced in) many clubs around the US and you should know that you only might be able to do pole tricks in the club. Even if they have a pole (some clubs don't) it can be extremely slippery. Many of the girls who dance in clubs wear quite a bit of lotion and no amount of cleaning will get it completely off the pole. Also, many clubs have poles that are not securely attached or are scarily flexible. So I would recommend definitely testing the pole out with some really simple moves before doing anything even as complex as a basic invert. I don't want to discourage you – I just don't want to see you get hurt or plan your entire audition around pole tricks only to find when you get up there that you can't do them.
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I couldn't find the silicone pole on X-pole's website. Are they going to be similar to the pole sleeves that have been sold for a while or is the pole it's self coated in silicone?
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Studio Veena is the top of the list for me. Seems like I'm always seeing something on here that I have to try. For example – the link you gave to the flexibility page was awesome. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
Other than that it's really random. Sometimes it's something a friend posts on my facebook page or following the rabbit hole of you tube videos but Studio Veena is the only pole site that I follow consistently.
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You're right that if you have to kick hard to get into an invert you're probably not ready for it yet. Climbs, pole sits, Crucifix, handstand against the pole and then going into reverse crucifix, are just some ideas of things you can work on before an invert. Once you're comfortable going from a handstand into reverse crucifix and hanging there you can wrap your body around the pole hang on and slowly release your legs into a V and then lower as slowly as possible to the ground. This will help build strength for inverting from a standing position. Grip strength is also something that has to be built up over time. You could be sliding down because your hands aren't strong enough yet.
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I agree that it depends on what you want to get out of it. If you go into it knowing that it's not a pole competition and that pole tricks may or may not even be possible on the club's pole (and you may not find that out until you get up on stage if the girl before you wears a lot of lotion) then you'll probably be fine.
Everyone here has given good advice. Find out the rules/policies of club and the amateur night in advance. Are you going to be required to take off a certain amount of clothing?(I've seen it vary from topless required to fully nude required) Is the stage pole spinning or static? Can it even be used? As kasanya said the poles may be too unstable to be climbed on or may have lotion on them. I've definitely experienced poles that had so many years of body lotion and oils on them that you couldn't clean them enough to get a good grip.
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I agree that it depends on what you want to get out of it. If you go into it knowing that it's not a pole competition and that pole tricks may or may not even be possible on the club's pole (and you may not find that out until you get up on stage if the girl before you wears a lot of lotion) then you'll probably be fine.
Everyone here has given good advice. Find out the rules/policies of club and the amateur night in advance. Are you going to be required to take off a certain amount of clothing?(I've seen it vary from topless required to fully nude required) Is the stage pole spinning or static? Can it even be used? As kasanya said the poles may be too unstable to be climbed on or may have lotion on them. I've definitely experienced poles that had so many years of body lotion and oils on them that you couldn't clean them enough to get a good grip.
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I agree with everyone here too. My husband isn't really into pole at all. He doesn't care if I do it – but it sort of annoys him when I ask him to spot me on some difficult move or watch a youtube video that I think is amazing. It's my thing – not his. He's a gunsmith and, while I can appreciate the work and knowledge it must take to fix a 100 year old gun for which they don't even make parts anymore, I'm really glad he doesn't want me to watch him do it. I would be insanely bored! I think he views pole the same way. Our deal is: he encourages me to go out and do pole with other people (I actually go down to the Madison WI area not infrequently for that) so that I have them to talk to/do pole with instead of him. I do the same for him with gunsmithing.
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I did perform! I did the routine to the Kid Rock "All Summer Long" song. I wore a cowboy hat, cutoff shorts and a bikini top for my routine (figured the outfit might be more memorable than the song https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif). I unfortunately couldn't make it to the pole jam though.
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Thanks for the information! I sent her the link to the studio list. LindaLu – did you preform at the Wisconsin Pole Showcase at the beginning of May? I think I met you there. I'll definitely send her the information for your studio – I don't know how far she's willing to travel.
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She said that anything east and north is good. Sounds like distance isn't really an issue.
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Have you tried other grip variations? I find that when I teach this the elbow grip is often the hardest for students, and the one that they master last. I usually start with a split grip aysha which is entered from extended butterfly – but without dropping the leg back over the head away from the pole. Looking at your video it seems like you can go into the move just fine – but it's the balance once you get there that's the big issue. Another thing to try that might help with the elbow grip aysha is, once you're in the catapillar with your hands (well, hand and elbow) propperly positioned, rather than just pushing off the pole into the V, slowly straighten your legs keeping them in contact with the pole. This will push your butt away from the pole and put you in a more stable position before you open your legs to remove them from the pole.
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I do have a dance background (ballet, tap, jazz) and I don't dance or teach by counts. I teach a series of movements and then the students can do it as fast or as slowly as they like. I really like the idea of trying the same sequence with different songs. I'm going to have to start incorporating that! I feel like pole is about moving when the music moves you and everyone dancing their own dance. And I tell my students I want them to learn to think through the moves themselves and do what works for them rather than trying to just copy the way I dance.
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I tried learning it with the Veena grip, but I was so much more comfortable with the double cup grip that I use that now. I learned it with a mat and a spotter. Somehow it seemed easier to me from standing rather than from kneeling.
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I've poled topless plenty of times when I've been working at clubs. Never nude. There are some places that I want to KNOW aren't going to stick to the pole. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif Plus, in most clubs it's considered extremely rude (if not downright forbidden) to get onto the pole once your underwear are off.
I actually never pole at home topless because that would somehow make my fun, for me poling like work and I don't want to do that.
