Runemist34
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My understanding is that a physical therapist is more for when you have injured yourself, and you need help! I went to one for my knees…they are very knowledgable, and good at looking for problems, but I don't know that they would have a lot of knowledge on the other side of things.
I agree with LoneStar, Veena is a personal trainer with tonnes of experience, and she's got the lessons up here for those of us who want to learn at home, and don't want to hurt ourselves! The strength training parts, too, are very useful. Veena, and several other pole dancers of competition level, and teachers, are all here, and you can ask them anything!
My reccommendations? Take it slow. Listen to your body, because if you're pushing too hard, it will tell you! If you hurt, maybe don't pole that day…do something softer, more relaxing, or maybe nothing at all. If you don't feel like a certain grip is stable enough, don't hang from it! Practice on the ground, and see if you can work out how the grip can be made more stable.
Other things that might help… a mirror, so you can watch yourself, or even better, a video camera. I DON'T like watching myself dance, but the video camera is something I'm forcing myself to do, because I know I'll improve eventually! Perhaps a crash mat, too, so you can work on moves with a little more safety. And, you can always check out pole dancing classes in your area (I'm sure Google would come up with a few!), and take some of those. I know that there are a lot of classes out these days that go right from beginner to advanced, from the floor to all aerial, and with a teacher present, perhaps you could also pepper them with questions about how to make up routines, how to train so you can improve, and what to do about stretching and strength if you hit a plateu.
Best of luck! Sounds like you have a good, realistic goal 🙂
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Generally I find it very helpful to stretch when I'm sore, but not stretch to increase my flexibility…more to get rid of some of the soreness!
When you're sore, you HAVE to be gentle with yourself. You're a lot more fragile now than any other time…at least, I know I am! So, stretch a little bit…because, yes, it's gonna friggen hurt, but you'll feel a bit better afterwords 😉
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For the topic of grip, or lack thereof, I find my SS to be wonderful…I live in a very humid climate, though (so I'm told, anyways!) in the northern west coast, so I think that has something to do with it! I also learned on SS Lil Mynx's, and I wasn't really frustrated by the pole at all.
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Wow, I've NEVER had my lil mynx eat my ceiling and come down on me! Perhaps this is an issue with the vaulted ceiling adapter? My pole is currently at nearly full extension, and it's handling everything really well. Of course, the ceilings right now are wood and plaster 😉
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I agree with Chem, it has so much to do with genetics, and those generally determine how your body reacts to things like exercise.
I know that, generally, if one would like tone and less volume, one should go for higher reps and lower weight, but I can't say if that's an old wive's tale or not.
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Unfortunately I've not got one, but I have TRIED one! Way, waaaayy back when I first touched a pole, I'm pretty sure it was one of these. Bachellorette party for a friend 😉
I never found the pole to be unstable, though to be fair, I had barely gotten the hang of the half-spin by the end of the evening. I do, however, tend to put a lot of weight into that little spin, and I've been known to take other people's poles doing it (usually people who are a lot lighter than I am!).
So, no, I never found any problems for learning the very, very basic little moves on it. It didn't move or shift at all.
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*scoff* That's just like a bunch of magazines and fashion people making arbitrary decisions on how we should dress and paint our fingernails and get our hair cut. I LIKE the french manicure, thank you very much!
If they think pole dancing is trashy, and fencing and riding is classy, then that's definitely some very oldschool beliefs. It would be good to have a bit more context…do they mean as a form of fitness, or just as a hobby (not necessarily fitness)? Because if the former, I would LOVE to see this guy try and upstage anyone here on the pole. And, if the latter, maybe he should get his head out of the dark ages? 😛
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Aww! Well, if it's any consolation, I'm excited to see the video as soon as I can manage it! I might be working by the time it goes up… we'll see >_>
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Just out of pure curiosity…since it's an argumentative essay, what kinds of arguements are you using for "against"? So, what kinds of things that people who don't think pole dancing should be respected are saying?
I found this often helps in my writing of essays- if you know your counter-arguments, or the prosecution, then you can tailor your defense accordingly! Thus, if it's something like "Only strippers use poles, and they're loose, downtrodden, sad women!" then you could make some grand arguments about how, no, many of the women nowadays are actually moms, or single women at home, students, and fitness instructors!
Like I said, I'm curious to know!
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I haven't had a fall like that…but to be fair, I've not done any inverted moves except for a very basic, low-to-the-ground Cross Knee Release, very slowly! lol
I'm terrified of being upside down. Even a plank/layback is difficult…but, I'm learning.
In your case, perhaps practicing the basic Caterpillar, like the stance and just moving in that position without changing your grip, would be beneficial. I'm sure I'll have to do this when I get there!
And, from what I understand, from watching Veena's lessons on here, you should be gripping with the front of one of your shins, from knee all the way up to your foot, as well as the other legs' calf, again from knee all the way to heel. When you let go of your legs to commence the straightening when you climb up, try to keep them as close to the pole as possible, and definitely practice from the floor, first! In like a handstand position.
I've also heard one or two people here like to teach things like how to fall- this might be good. I'm pretty tough when it comes to falls, I had a darn good one when learning to rollerblade, and managed only to tear my jeans and rattle my head something fierce! This might help for getting over the fear.
And, remember, fear is there for a reason- embrace it, don't fight it, and take things SLOWLY!
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LoneStar, I'm sorry if I came off a bit strong…I've heard similar arguements from people who REALLY mean "bitches," the mean, catty, horrible kind. And yes, I can kind of agree with letting guys go to their caves…though I know I need my cave time, too! lol
For me, it's a give-and-take…I go to him, he comes to me, and we're happy. There doesn't need to be this tension of who's going where!
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I'm sorry but…I just can't leave this one alone.
A man is not a two dimensional creature- they don't just want sex and food. Men are human, and as we fight for equality in this world, as women, we should be remembering that. We want them to treat us as multifacited human beings, and we should be doing the same to them. Lead by example.
First of all, there are some women out there that enjoy the idea of two men having sex. Many of you will cringe and go "Eeew!" So, why do we simply accept that men want to see two women having sex? Just because our society has latched on to that and decided it was socially acceptable, doesn't mean everyone wants it, or should want it. The same goes for feet, or pole dancing, or pornography. Not everyone finds it sexy or interesting!
People have many wants and needs in life, but one thing remains constant: We want and need to feel happy, and loved. This is why we find companions, why we get married, and why we have friends. Instead of deciding your man is cheating or ignoring him entirely and seeing if he comes running, why not just be nice to him, and talk to him like he's an adult? You aren't his mom, you're his wife; mutual partners in a relationship, sharing their lives together. You share yours, he shares his, and sometimes you do things apart from each other.
I'm sure everyone here who has a husband or boyfriend (or girlfiriend or wife) can find one hobby or interest that they do not share with their significant other. I know this is the case with my husband and I. This is why I am comfortable hooping or pole dancing without his watching me or being always there going "That's so sexy!" all the time. I do it for myself. Same as he likes cars and computers, and I'm not sitting there going "That's totally awesome!" all the time.
You've got a whole community of pole-interested people to share with here. And, if you really want him to see what you've been working on, I'm sure that Polergirl's suggestion would at least be appreciated by him! Even if he doesn't find it sexy, he can appreciate it, I'm sure of that.
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lol, guys, try Firefox. I've rarely had problems with it! And, it's easy to use and all that good stuff…
However, Webby, I was wondering…is there any reason why I sometimes only get the first 30-50 seconds of a video, and I've seen another girl complaining of that as well. Could this be an internet provider problem, or something to do with firefox/my computer?
I run a Mac (for now! Probably selling it in anticipation of school), and while I love it and it's easy to use and everything, stuff is sometimes so hidden that I don't know how to troubleshoot problems! Lol!
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Darling, unfortunately you can't really make someone excited about something that doesn't terribly interest them. I know it's tough to take, but really, if he's not into it, he's just not!
My husband isn't really interested in it either- he likes the fact that I feel strongly about it, but otherwise, he doesn't really feel the need to watch. I get a lot of "Wow, your husband must LOVE that!" when I talk about poling at home…and usually I explain that I don't really pole when he's home!
I pole dance for me, plain and simple. My sexuality is my own, first and foremost, and I like to explore and enjoy it. I also enjoy the fact that I'm gaining strength and flexibility, and can do more things in my everyday life, as well as achieving things on the pole!
As for getting more attention from him…well, unfortunately I can't help you there 😉 It depends on what's going on with you guys, and what he might be distracted with!
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Ah, ladies, I feel your pain! I'm about 42" hips, I think, and I can't even find normal pants! I just ordered jeans online, because I could specify my measurements! Shirts are also becoming an issue, but less so, because I can actually find one or two in almost any store I try (I say almost, because sometimes stores are made for people without boobs, and I sure can't wear them!)
I found my pole shorts at a local dance shop, and though they are a little high on the rear, and have a very high top, I'm okay with them! Now that I've moved, I'm having some issues…the dance shop here seems to think everyone is made like a ballerina…all tall and thin! lol!
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lol! I forgot to put up my Twitter page! Hard to follow the link there if you don't know where it is!
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I had 3ish years of English riding some time ago, and I've been sad ever since that the place I went to had to close down! I love love love horses! I'm always looking enviously at the horse and carriages that pass my work sometimes (bit of a tourist thing). I seriously wish I'd had the opportunity to take care of horses and deal with them more, but it seems like you kind of have to have been born into it around here, in order to get into it!
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Hey darling!
I know, it's soo tempting to try to push yourself, and just see what you can do…but honestly, you really need to work on the foundational moves before you move on! Think about it this way…A lot of the foundation moves, like just dancing and spins and such, allow you to learn about momentum, spacial awareness, and your own style of movement. Also, with the impressive amount of muscle you gain through working up to those moves, if you happen to fall (which we all hope never happens!) you may, actually, recover faster and have somewhat less injury. No guarantees, but it's a better chance.
I've been dancing for 3 years, or so, and I can't yet do a basic invert. Unfortunate, I know, but after many "breaks," some of them rather lengthy, I've had to restart many times. It's very, very tempting to push hard and try to get to the level everyone else seems to be at…but seriously, you run the risk of greater injury from pushing too hard! And then you're back to square one.
Take your time, because it's a journey, and you're allowed to be at level zero if you want. You can spend time on your footwork, you can spend time working on just variations of a Fireman spin for a while! It's a bit like Yoga, or Tai Chi, or Karate…there's always something to learn, always something to explore.
So take your time and enjoy yourself! If you wanna dance sexy, then I think I'm all the happier for it 😉 I'm trying to relearn how to dance sexy, too!
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Okay!
I kind of have a random schedule, so I dance whenever I can! But I’m always up for bouncing ideas and helping each other out 🙂 -
Yes, totally! I’m the same way…no pole friends around here! You can find me on Skype under the same username (Runemist34).
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Jehanne, I think that's an awesome idea…it would REALLY get rid of any prospect of pain in the Pole sit 😉
And yeah, I know, it's kind of difficult to be compassionate when people aren't being compassionate to you! But, I just figure…they're on their own journey, and they'll learn these lessons in their own way!
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Hey!
Fortunately, I've not had any of the poor comments that others have had…I tend not to persue relationships with people if I find them too closed minded about the person I am or what I like to do. If that sounds elitist…well, sorry, but that's kinda how it works! Why would I want to hang out with judgemental jerks? lol
Anyways, I have heard from the others around her an absolute plethroa of nasty comments. And, yes, I understand that sometimes you can't get away from those people! In-laws, family friends, sometimes our own parents, and especially co-workers. We can't really choose not to be around these people often, so our lives come out to them, and it's tough when we aren't accepted.
However, I agree entirely with JeHanne, you cannot control what people say about it…but you CAN control what YOU say! This is your life and you get to choose what you persue for hobbies, and if you find passion and fun and joy with pole dancing, who's to tell you that you're wrong?
For something like JeHanne's example, "I'm too intelligent for…" well, unfortunately I have to say I'm a little offended by that one! I consider myself a relatively well educated kind of person, I'm going to university, I love learning. My question for that person would be "How do you define intelligence?" Because if they're doing it by IQ, then they've got a lot more to learn about intelligence! And, otherwise, if they're doing it by lifestyle, by the clothes you wear or the way you talk, or the things you're interested in, then that's not intelligence!
Intelligent people are also accepting people. If they weren't open minded, they wouldn't be able to learn much, would they?
Anyways, I wish you luck! If you're feeling down (or have a really good zinger to share!) you can always come and talk to us…I always love a good comeback to some of the things people say about pole dancers 😉
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Cherished: I took a look on Youtube for it, but I can't seem to find anything with Karol shakin' her thang. I agree, I'd love to see it!
And yes, Michelle sure can shake hers! I couldn't imagine how long she had to practice for that…I know I can't go for that long! She's one of my most favourite burlesque dancers ever 🙂
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Hey! I would LOVE to see some more…er, transitional ideas, and what to do with arms and stuff! You know, so I don't get the "T-Rex arm" thing (where your spare arm just kind of hangs there, bent at the elbow).
Also, perhaps ways of making your own routines? I know most of us don't do it here, but it would be very helpful to get a bit of help with it, anyways!
Drops would be awesome, because I LOVE them!
And umm…I dunno what else! I think you're doing marvelously!
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Depends entirely on the kind of shake you're trying to get! Hehe https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
The trick to what I consider the "normal" shake, or the bellydancer shimmy, is that you need to squat down just a little bit, and then it's all in the knees! You move your knees opposite each other, front and back (so when one is forward, the other is back) and very quickly! You don't need to do it very big, just enough to get all that hip/booty going!
Some people also do this with their feet…I'm not entirely sure how, because I imagine that would mean a lot of clattering when wearing heels! However, there's an excellent video of it. It's Michelle L'amour's performance at the 1st annual burlesque festival in new orleans! Yes, she's a burlesque dancer…and there's a reason her tag line is "The ass that goes POW!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU2y_XVgd_A
She starts around 4:00 or 4:10, if you want to skip the delicious tease and get right to the bum.
She also showcases a couple of other ways of doing it, with some strong muscle isolation (by flexing her thigh muscles in the back, she can make the whole thing shake!), and the nice hip movements which allows it to shake as well!
And, I know that Veena has some wonderful lessons on booty shaking, if you've got access to her lessons.
And, if you REALLY need more help, take a little belly dancing or burlesque class! They'll help you out! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
