Ekinkah
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I can’t see the first video now, but I’m guessing you’re talking about split-grip. For a start, always make sure that the bottom hand has your pointer finger or middle finger (or both) pointing DOWN, and not around the pole. Secondly, make sure you are not hyperextending your elbow – if your arm is locked out, the side of your elbow with your ulnar (the ‘pinkie’ side) will come closer to the pole than the side with your radius (the ‘thumb’ side). Make sure this isn’t happening – keep a slight bend in the elbow and do NOT allow it to lock out! This has largely fixed be problem for me (which was very sharp pain in my ulnar upon releasing the pole). Keep in mind if its damaged a fair bit, just correcting your technique will not initially make the pain go away – you will need to get some sort of physio or acupuncture treatment as well!
Not sure about the second one, sorry 🙂
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Count me in, hamstring injury and all! =D I want my split already, and I'm willing to work at it!
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Come on, people! If you're all half as pole-obsessed as me I know you read/watch some pole things regularly!
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Korinne – how big is the bottom part of the pole, once you remove the top part (for the purposes of switching it out for an extension)? I want to use as much height as I can with my 2.4 meter ceiling, you see! 🙂
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Chem, it’s not a tiled ceiling, it’s just plasterboard/jiprock – we took a light out and saw inside that it was not attached to any joists or anything solid really (hence why I can move it with my hands), and the solid ceiling is a fair way above it. The only way would be able to put a hole in the plaster, and it’s not really an option!
I am glad I did not decide to get an r-pole, haha! They don’t sound very good! I am going with the x-stage lite option, as I won an x-pole in a competition and they are letting me pay the difference to get the stage! Just waiting to see which extension they will advise for my ceiling height of 2.4 meters.
Thanks for all your replies ladies, good to know I’ve always got some solid advice when in a pole-pickle!
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Are they the same extension pieces as from the non-stage X-Pert, or do you buy special stage ones? I was under the impression that you had to cut the top piece if your ceiling was less than 3.3 meters!
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Are they the same extension pieces as from the non-stage X-Pert, or do you buy special stage ones? I was under the impression that you had to cut the top piece if your ceiling was less than 3.3 meters!
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An X-Pole? An R-Pole? My ceiling is less than 3 meters high so I have to consider that too!
Waiting to hear from someone about an X-Pole that I won after signing up to the Australian Pole Festival, hopefully it is a stage, but I doubt it! 🙁
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I get pain on the inner aspect of my knee, very close to the kneecap but not directly under it – I’ve been told its muscle tightness, and to rotate my legs towards the back of the room a bit (I think?). I think if massaging the kneecap helps, it is likely a tight muscle – but I’m not a doctor or anything so I don’t really know 🙂
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I had the same thing happen to me! A loud POP where my butt and thigh meets, when someone was helping me rotate my pelvis down and tailbone up in a straddle. Didn’t hurt at the time, but got worse a day or two later – a year and a half later I am much less flexible in my hamstring on that side, and sometimes it still hurts! I never got it looked at because it didn’t hurt at first. Please please PLEASE go and get it looked at!!
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This looks like a variation on a move Natasha Wang taught me – she goes from an outside knee hang, then puts the bottom leg's calf on the pole, then hooks the elbow. It is very similar, except the bottom leg is contacting the pole on the back of the calf! =)
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I'd love to know the answers to these too! I use a foam roller to relieve tense muscles, but am unsure if it has really helped in my flexibility by doing it prior to stretching. That being said, I did a short 'splits stretching' course with a well-known pole-specialist physio near me, and she made us foam-roll ever session, after warming up but before intense stretching for the same reason @glitterhips mentioned – for loosening/relaxing muscles. I am curious as to what everyone else thinks of it!
I think Veena has a few lessons on foam-rolling – do you have her lessons? I think I saw about 5!
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I think it might be, chem – maybe you could press your knee onto that outside arm to aid with balance? I think I saw something like that in one of the Art of Pole DVD's when practicing for an ayesha, though I could be wrong!
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Hell yeah! CONGRATULATIONS! Celebrate every step of the way – even if you think climbing is 'small'! Climbing it's so important to everything in pole that I don't think it's small at all – and it's conditioning for more intermediate moves!
I'm very glad you posted about it, too – when you have a hard day at pole and you feel like you're not getting anywhere, look back on this and remember – "I can do this!"!
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To clarify, I did see the part about the floor being uneven. If your floor is uneven I think it could definitely impact on your trick – for example if it is a TG handspring/aysha, you might be going up from a different angle and thus not gain your balance as easily. That could explain being able to lift, but not hold (have the strength, but struggle with the balance due to coming up at a different angle).
Sorry if that's hard to understand!
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Hi Vanessa,
What TG move are you talking about? Could you upload a photo perhaps?
If you are in exactly the same position and have just started around the other side of the pole (ie same top/bottom hand, same position in relation to your body and the pole), it could be related to the room – for example, I have difficulties inverting on my pole at home because I know that I might kick out the light globe (low ceiling). It could be that you are not comfortable in that area and it is holding you back?
If I have misunderstood and you are actually talking about doing the move on the reverse side of your body (ie left vs right, or reversing which hand is higher or which side of your body the pole is on), then it could be due to different strengths or technique. A photo (or a more detailed description) might help us help you with suggestions! =)
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Runemist34 – I have a friend who is an audiologist and she has not been able to 'count' sounds from birth, and as a result she had to undergo speech therapy as a child. It's actually very integral that we can measure sounds in speech unconciously as it relates to cadence and stuff (I dont understand much about it, but it's very integral to her job as she has to make sure children who come in to be tested can do it – so apparently we all need to be able to, just unconciously!).
I can make very realistic baby and turkey sounds. Though, as you'll see in this video, even incredible unrealistic and poor-effort turkey sounds are all that might be required for this to be even remotely useful! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPJ-NJ7pFSc
My friend is so inflexible in her muscles (can't even touch her toes), but she can put her legs behind her back front-ways (opening at the hips, inner thighs along her ribs), and put the backs of her knees over her shoulders (feet in front of her face) and walk around on her hands. Useful for horror-themed zombie photo-shoots only.
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I'm trying to make progress with my hip flexors now also, and ALL of those descriptions were very easy for me to picture, D Luxx – thanks! =)
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I didn’t say you said that at all – don’t worry, I didn’t misunderstand what you were saying! I was just discussing level requirements as a topic in general and my thoughts on it. And as I said above, I agree that specifically a TG requirement is a bit ridiculous – its not a move for everyone, and was I correct in saying some places ban or done teach it due to it being dangerous (to the joints, and worse for some people etc)?
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I am inclined to agree, chemgoddess – while I think it is not very encouraging to require certain moves to attain a higher level, I do understand the necessity in some cases, ie to ensure you do not attempt things above your strength level (keeping it safe), or to make sure you are not in a class full of hanspringers learning variations when you could be better served working on basics (better and safer for you, better for your class). Maybe it would be okay for some handspring moves to be required to move up, ie to ensure you are not out of your depth of strength in the next class up, but I think TG is not something that should be required, ever. Don't a lot of studios ban it because of the injury risk? Can't some people simply not get this move due to wrist and shoulder differences? Ugh.
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I am no expert on ayshas, handsprings or any tg moves as I am still struggling to successfully execute any of them, but some advice given to me regarding the bottom arm is to ensure that it is “in line”, ie the middle of the pole, the middle of your palm, your elbow, your shoulder and then your torso, make a straight line and are stacked over each other in regards to your weight distribution and centre. For example, if your elbow is hyperextended (not engaged and with the inner aspect of it extended outwards), then the joint is not in line, not balancing the weight as best it could and thus will hurt (the line it makes will not be straight). Maybe you are doing this to your shoulder?
If this is poor advice, please correct me! As I said I am still learning these moves! 🙂
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I always had such a hard time describing how I hurt myself to my physio, but I was never embarassed – she was always suitably impressed, but sometimes at a loss to completely understand how I injured myself. Now I have a pole physio (Selina Tannenberg, she is INCREDIBLE! Look her up!), and it's like a breath of fresh air – not only could I just say 'split grip ayesha with the left hand above my head', but she has had more success helping me due to understanding what she thinks is a very common pole injury! What's more, we talk about pole the WHOLE time she is working on me, she NEVER tells me to stop (only one move, for a set time period, haha), and she's helping me reach my flexibility and strength goals! It's amazing how having your healthcare provider truly understand what you do can help!
I have had friends be looked down upon, told to do something else, and completely misunderstood – "Maybe you should find a new line of work" (to not-strippers)!
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Have a look at this thread: https://www.studioveena.com/forums/view/Ayesha_inverted_v__split_grip_or_twisted_grip__tips__20120810023041#bottom
and I think it was this thread!: https://www.studioveena.com/forums/view/4f145e1a-da88-4827-a20f-63350ac37250
Currently I am practicing from an extended butterfly, then from that position – with your hips far away from the pole,and one foot in, bring the other in and then slowly take both off to the 'sides' of the pole – so if you wobble from side to side your feet will touch. It allows you to feel which way you are falling (which is hard to figure out when you're upside down!), and it keeps your hips in a good position (not for the straight edge, but for that variation). It depends on what you are doing, but with me the advice I was given was to 'dish' my torso – as in push my hips towards the pole, and my tummy away, as I tended to arch my back and fall away from the pole in this position. Same advice goes for practicing handstands! This sounds dumb, but you really need to think about engaging your core as much as possible – it's easy to forget with so much going on in this position!
Post progress pics if you can – I have been working on this for a long time too, and can't seem to get close except in tiny increments every few weeks!
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Wow!I had no idea we had a Maroochydoore TPG! Are there any other PoleGym's out that way? Here we have Brisbane City, Capalaba, Sunshine Coast and Lawnton! I go to the city one =)
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I have – every day this week! Which PoleGym do you go to =)?
