X-Pole X-pert at max height

Queenie426 started this discussion · 8/29/2012

Hey guys, I recently moved to an older house with higher ceilings. I measured and they came about an inch shy of 9 ft. It could be possible that I didnt do a good job measuring and they are 9ft exactly. I looked on the X-Pole website and it said the pole fits ceilings up to 9ft so I was just wondering if having the pole at its highest would be safe or if I should go ahead and buy the extension anyways. I currently dont have the pole here so I can't try it. Thanks!

24 replies

Queenie426 · 8/29/2012
Anybody?! Lol this is the first time I've never gotten answer!
Runemist34 · 8/29/2012
My guess would be that, if Xpole is saying that they are able to extend to 9ft, that they are also safe to that height. I couldn't see them advertising "Goes to 9 feet! But don't use it at 9 feet. That's dangerous." lol 😉
Anonyma · 8/29/2012
i would buy a small extension
X Pole Tech · 8/30/2012
X-Poles are safe at 9' (2745mm). However, that is with the adjuster fully out at 5" (125mm). a) This takes time to extended and contract if the X-Pole is being removed regularly and packed away and... b) it is better to keep the adjuster to the minimum. One other point is that at 9' (2745mm) an addiational 2x extensions and 2x Xoints are being used. We also recommend, if posisble, to limit the number of extensions on any pole - this decreases flex and speeds up installation and limits the adjuster length. So, our advice would always be at 9' ("745mm) to use a 19.5" (500mm) extension. This will limit your extensions to 1, joints to 2 and adjuster to 3/4"~1" (15~25mm). Hope this helps X-Pole Tech Team
X Pole Tech · 8/30/2012
Apologies fo the terrible spelling! X-Pole Tech Team
X Pole Tech · 8/30/2012
And again !! Must learn to type and spell.
HyperHorsegirl · 8/30/2012
https://www.studioveena.com/forums/view/4fb1534b-9df8-4de4-8e8d-50f20ac37250 I actually started a thread about this exact topic back in May. My ceilings are exactly 9 ft. I did not purchase an extension (though I would have, if I had gotten a quicker response before I purchased it) and my pole is very sturdy and safe. I would certainly consider X Pole Tech's advice, but my pole has performed well since June, even at this height.
X Pole Tech · 8/30/2012
Our apologies for not having replied sooner to your request. X-Pole Tech Team
HyperHorsegirl · 8/30/2012
Oh no worries! I wasn't complaining. I was in a hurry because I thought the Free Shipping offer on SV would end soon.
Queenie426 · 8/30/2012
Thanks so much! I measured again and it is one inch under 9 ft. I think I'll order the extension since its only 20 bucks and while I'm waiting for that put it up without. Thanks everyone! Very helpful as always.
kasanya · 8/30/2012
Hm, odd. My ceiling in the new place is 9' and 1/4 inch and I couldn't get my pole up with the 500mm extension. It was just barely too tall. I had to order the 200mm extension and use it with the 250mm that comes with the pole.
Queenie426 · 8/30/2012
Kasanya I had that thought too after my last post. The x-pole sight says the 500 mm extension is for 9ft 1 in and up and my ceiling is 1 inch short of that so wouldn't it be too tall?
X Pole Tech · 8/31/2012
Due to his thread we are currently re-checking all our calculations and doing a physical check on the Pole lengths. We will report back after the weekend. However, our current production drawings to hand show that an X-Pole XX045 Xpert Pole, assembled with a fully closed adjuster and using the Base + A-Pole + B Pole + Insert + Upper Dome = 2230mm (87.8"). No extensions used. Now add a 500mm (19.7") Extension and the total length of the pole = 2230mm + 500mm = 2730mm (107.48") A ceiling height of 9' = 108" = 2743mm. So, the calculations for a pole being used with a with a 9' (2743mm) ceiling are; Metric ........ ..2743mm - 2730mm = 13mm Imperial ...... 108" - 107.48" = 0.52" (1/2"). So, any Xpert pole should be 13mm (1/2") short of a 9' or 108" or 2743mm ceiling. Admittedly 1/2" or 13mm is tight but we did test with these dimensions and it was fine. We are double checking our figures and doing a physical check as well (no ones perfect!) and will reply again as soon as possible. Our thanks for your patience. X-Pole Tech Team
Charley · 8/31/2012
I love you X-pole! My garage is about 9ft and the adjustor rod actually fell out - I needed an extension - which I have - to put it up in the garage. I roughly estimate 9 - it's could be a little taller. Less pieces are always better especially if you plan to use spin mode and the extensions are extremely reasonably priced. :)
kasanya · 8/31/2012
I'm sure the pole fits when it's fully assembled... the problem is getting it that way. Once you have the base + A pole + B pole + 500mm extension all put together, you only have half an inch clearance at the top. That's not enough space to put the top dome on! Doesn't matter if the pole is upright or tilted to the side, you just can't get the top dome on in the amount of space you have to work with. I bet if you had an original X-Pole you could probably do it though. You could just put the top dome directly on the 500mm extension and then screw the extension onto the assembled base + A pole + B pole. There's no way to do something like that with the X-Joint style poles though. =/
X Pole Tech · 8/31/2012
OK, Let' sgo through it from the start. Please assemble your X-Pole on the floor. First check the adjuster is fully closed then assemble the A + B + 500mm inserting X-Joints between each pole tube. Tighten but do not fully tighten the X-Joints. Just enough so the enage and do not slip. Final tightening will be done later. Next, not raising the hole pole i.e. with it one end still on the floor, lift the adjuster end and fit the base. Tighten it so it is locked in the static position - i.e. with the screws aligned with the X’s on the base. Next install the top insert into the 500mm tube end. Now, standing just below the top end of the pole lift the top end off the floor (base on the floor) and when the end is just above waist height – put on the upper dome! Now, with the upper done attached, base on the floor, keep lifting the pole upwards and continue lifting/walking the pole till it is upright. Take it slowly when it gets to the ceiling. Providing the ceiling measurement is 9’ or above the pole should slide into position. If it doesn’t then push the pole towards vertical, till the edge of the upper dome touches the ceiling and providing you have a smooth floor or flat carpet, lift the bottom of the pole, pushing the edge of the upper dome against the ceiling and whilst doing that slide the base under the upper dome till the pole is upright. This takes a bit of work but it should get the pole upright. Once the pole is vertical expand the adjuster till the pole is firm – but not tight. Now release the X-Joints, i.e. untighten the hex screws and re-tighten them. IMPORTANT - Remember -tighten the joint screws progressively - one hex screw until ‘light’ pressure is felt, do not fully tighten. Then tighten the other screw till pressure is felt. Now tighten the first hex screw fully tight, then the other. This way the Joint opens fully and equally. Finally, check the pole is vertical, if it’s not loosen the adjuster a little and using a bubble level make sure it is vertical. Now, making sure the dome is flat on the ceiling expand the adjuster till it is tight and lock the three adjuster screws. If you are concerned about aligning the adjuster locking screws with the flat sections on the adjuster screw, then on the top edge of the adjuster body there is now a drilled Dot. Align this Dot with one adjuster screw and all the screws will be in alignment. Check your pole is firm/stable, if not re-tighten and start poling. We hope the above solves your installation problems X-Pole Tech Team
Juicy J · 8/31/2012
Hi X-Pole Tech, I never knew to tighten the X-Joints completely once the pole is in the upright position. I thought the tightening process was done on the floor while the poles are laying flat? That's what I have been doing. Can you give an explanation why it's better to do it upright rather than while the poles are flat on the ground? Thank you!
X Pole Tech · 8/31/2012
Can be done either way but when the pole is up the weight of the pole tubes makes sure the edges tubes are 100% together. On the floor, as you go to tighten there is no pressure holding them together and they can separate. We always assemble loosely first then tighten them fully in situ. Joints should always be checked installed before use and also regularly. To many poles are left up and not checked or maintained. Please check and look after your poles. X-Pole Tech Team
Juicy J · 9/3/2012
Thank you, X-Pole Tech! ^^
aerial orchid · 11/26/2012
Hello polers! I have an emergency question! Has anyone used an Xpole Xpert exceeding the maximum height without the ceiling fix? I need to use mine on a ceiling that measures 11 feet and 10 inches and, unfortunately I don't have the option of placing screws on the ceiling.. Is that too dangerous? It will be used by one person at a time on spinning mode.. Should I go for it? The other problem is that I don't have enough time to order longer extensions, so I will be borrowing two extensions of 500mm and two of 200mm, I don't have longer ones available... Do you think I will end up flying out the window??
kasanya · 11/26/2012
I expect it will be super unstable. I ended up taking down my 9 foot (A+B+250mm+200mm) 45mm X-Pert because it felt unsafe. I replaced it with a 9 foot (A+B+500mm) 50mm original X-Pole which feels much more stable, I think in part because it's thicker and in part because I'm using fewer extensions.
aerial orchid · 11/27/2012
Thank you for the quick response! So, you have never heard of anyone exceeding the max height without a ceiling fix? X pole clearly does not recommend this. I guess I will have to check how stable it feels once I've set it up with some spins and if it feels OK, I will go for inverts etc..! I will let you know how my experiment ended up!! lol!
RobynPoleDancer · 11/27/2012
I've used a 50mm x-pert at that height. it was NOT safe. If you tighten it enough for it to wedge in, it will end up bowed, and more likely to come down. I'd say you'd be ok, if you were only doing gentle static holds, but any spins or moves that jolt the pole would be very dangerous.
aerial orchid · 11/27/2012
Thanks so much for rour reply! If it's that unstable, I guess I shouldn't risk it then... 🙁