What Next?

HazelHotpants started this discussion · 3/1/2011

Just need some advice on what Ito practice next.... Ive just mastered the extended butterfly... yay! HOWEVER... this has made my wrist really sore from practicng the same move too many times (i know... naughty me. 🙁) But I was just wondering what I could work on that doesn't involve this hand as my support hand at the bottom aka aysha, caterpiller climbs. Also been working on the pencil mount and this seems to bother my wrist as well. :( I'm just stuck on what to move onto next as handsprings and cartwheel mounts use the same hand at the bottom. And I am too stubborn to take too much time off the pole. (I did rest it for a week but it still hurt in today's practise. Thanks i advance for the suggestions.... Also... i really dislike shoulder mounting... so this is out of the question at the mo too.... Althought it might kick my butt into practicing it more if i think its the only thing i can do without hurtin my wrist. hehe. xx

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chemgoddess1 · 3/1/2011
I have been working on reverse armpit holds lately....rocketman and yogini. I also was playing with drops....knee hold to holly drop and the superman drop (which still freaks me out). I would also suggest learning how to do butterfly and caterpillar with the opposite hand down. How are you with everything else in your arsenal on your opposite side?
dustbunny · 3/1/2011
Hmmm, I like chemgoddess's suggestions. You could also do some wrist and forearm strengthening and stretching, not exactly a new trick I know, but sometimes you have to stop and build up strength before you can keep moving forward. :)
Shellectra · 3/2/2011
is there a lesson on the Yogini, chemgoddess? or are you learning it yourself? I want to learn it but don't know how to get into it (I can almost do teddy but it's ugly I'd rather learn Yogini lol)
chemgoddess1 · 3/2/2011
I am sure there is a lesson but I am kinda learning it on my own. I have more issues with this because my bow is not all that great. I am fine on the ground but once I get into the air it is horrible. With me it is more about my shoulder flexibility or lack there of. http://images.inmagine.com/img/score/sc015/sc015014.jpg For both this and rocketman I go into a pole sit, bring my body around to the front of the pole (I climb with my right foot so I bring my body around to the left of the pole). At this point you kinda have to be able to stay on the pole using only your knees. I reach my right arm back and grab my right ankle. At this point you really have to squeeze that armpit against the pole and then have faith. I usually will hold on with my left hand until I feel "set" and then release my left hand and try to grab my left foot and arch. To make this really pretty you kind of have to lean forward on the pole to get your legs higher. Rocket man is 10 times easier (at least to me) and will get you accustomed to that armpit hold. Basically bring yourself around on the pole as you did to start yogini but reach back with both arms. I grab my left wrist with my right hand and squeeze like crazy and then release my legs. I have not tried it one handed yet....that is next.
amy · 3/2/2011
i'm not sure where you are with your leg hangs, but i think those are something that more advanced students tend to neglect. i would recommend working on the following combos so that they are super, super clean and fluid: -monkey climbs/outside leg hang climbs: straight legged chopper, outside leg hang, climb over it so that the pole is at your other side, opposite side straight legged chopper, opposite side outside leg hang, climb over it, rinse and repeat. -inside leg hang climbs: straight legged chopper, inside leg hang, tawny/inverted thigh hold, climb over your inside leg to have the pole on the same side, repeat. start over on the ground on your opposite side. -leg switches: climb to the top of the pole, straight legged chopper, outside leg hang, switch to inside leg hang, tawny/inverted thigh hold, bring body around pole to opposite side outside leg hang, switch to opposite side inside leg hang, tawny/inverted thigh hold, bring body around again to outside leg hang, repeat.
verucablue · 3/2/2011
I would also add that if your wrist is giving you some pain issues right now you might seriously want to maybe work on things off the pole that really don't involve your wrist. You would be surprised just how many moves that don't seem wrist intense actually can put pressure on them and you don't want to aggrevate it and end up worse off. ***says the girl with the crane and the crutches as she hobbles off to work 😲
monica kay · 3/3/2011
knee hold is a beautiful move to master. also any spins or holds that involve the knee pit.
lilblondie · 3/3/2011
what amy said will keep you busy for weeks, hehe ... great ideas. i do the same stuff to give my hands a break. you could also try switching sides and trying every spin and invert you know on the other side. :) i did it after i pulled a rib muscle ... it was infuriating at first, now i love how comfortable i am on both sides!
heathalynne · 3/3/2011
No wrists? Teddy... knee hold.... genie... drops.... Leg switches.... Falling star... Lately I've been working on all except genie and drops. With leg switches, no hands inside leg hang/outside leg hang/opposite inside leg hang/opposite outside leg hang. The opposite side hurts like a @$^%#&!
HazelHotpants · 3/4/2011
Thanks for all the suggestions!!! Think i might try some drops and things and practise left handed. Like my teddy... (oh my god... i forgot how much it hurt at the beginnin) And I think amy's suggestions will keep me busy for a while!!! Thank you... anymore suggestions appreciated... I always come to a blank on what to work on next... think I am going to have to start writing things down. :)
amy · 3/4/2011
🙂😀
Prncsopowr · 3/5/2011
I try really hard to work on things on both sides. I normally remember to do this when I have a bruise that prevents me from doing things on my dominant side. It helps to build strength evenly and makes me stronger overall. Also, you may want to go get your wrist checked out. It sounds like you could have an overuse injury which may result or be caused by some tendonitis. If it were me, I would have it checked out so I didn't injure myself long term.
EVamp83 · 3/8/2011
I always like to practice one-handed spins. It's best to learn them on both sides, but you can just start with your 'good' wrist side. (Examples of spins that can be done one-handed: Fireman, Front Hook, Back Hook, Carousel, Chair Spin, Attitude, V-Spin)
RoseMay · 1/12/2012
Does anyone know a video with the inside leg hang climbs Amy mentioned in this thread? I'm having a hard time picturing this climb..
chemgoddess1 · 1/12/2012
Amy has them I think in one of her Tuesday tips....let me see
chemgoddess1 · 1/12/2012
Here: http://aerialamy.com/blog/2011/08/30/tuesday-tips-monkey-climb/
FuzzyNavel · 1/12/2012
I would suggest working on hip holds and jade.Take care of your wrist! Sometimes resting it is really important so you don't hurt it further. (I hurt my shoulder last May and I am just now begining to feel less careful and catious with it)
FuzzyNavel · 1/12/2012
*cautious (oops)
RoseMay · 1/13/2012
Hi chemgoddess, that's the outside leg hang climb - I was referring to the inside leg hang climb. It was described like this above: "inside leg hang climbs: straight legged chopper, inside leg hang, tawny/inverted thigh hold, climb over your inside leg to have the pole on the same side, repeat. start over on the ground on your opposite side." When I try it in my head I either break my back or my leg 😲
chemgoddess1 · 1/13/2012
By tawny I think she meant Tammy. If you go from inside leg hang to this then you can twist your torso and climb over that hooked leg which was originally your inside leg. Does that make sense? http://www.triagedesign.co.uk/wikipole/images/6/66/Tammy.jpg
RoseMay · 1/13/2012
Well, it almost makes sense now 😀 To climb over, where would I grip? Behind the knee of the hooked leg? And do I twist the upper body in the direction it came from the inside leg hang? So in the picture you posted, I would twist to face the right? And then I guess, I have to pull myself upright to do a chopper again ..
chemgoddess1 · 1/13/2012
I wish I could remember the performance where Marlo did this. Basically it looks like you are doing a cartwheel on the pole, so if you start on one side you drop your body down straight and then pull up on the other side. Imagine a clock. Your leg is at 12:00 and your body is at 7:00. You would bring your body to 6 (Tammy) and then 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and pull yourself back up into 12:00. On an outside leg hang you would go from 7 to 8, 9, 10, 11, then 12.
RoseMay · 1/13/2012
Ah okay, so the upper body turns in the other direction, not the one it came from. I found this video, it's a climb over in a crucifix position. Is it kind of what the climb over in the inverted thigh hold looks like? http://poledancedictionary.com/moves/259/transition-up-pole/
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chemgoddess1 · 1/13/2012
Marlo does it really quick at about 0:35 in this video. I am trying to find the vid where she did about 3 of them in a row: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt135ST9-kg
RoseMay · 1/14/2012
That looks really beautiful :-) I downloaded the video and can play it in slow motion so I can see what she's doing. This move is going on my "to learn"-list. Thanks for the link and your patience with explaining the move 🌸

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