UPM... Unidentified Pole Move, help!
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Dayanara ·
Thanks for the tip, Veena. 🙂
Ohkie dokie... I believe I've made this up then? Damn! @ deetron, Reverse Brass/Funky Monkey...Oh yes. Yes, I like that name. Describes that the hook is backwards and that it is crazy gravity defying monkey business! @ poledanceromance and picturing landing on your head. LOL! Imagine my surprise when I first fell into this from a cupid when my bottom leg slipped off the pole?! Dayanara and poledanceromance: I watched the vid with Alethea in it, it is definitely a Double Brass Monkey she does. She's just facing a different direction. The knee hook for a Brass Monkey is with the same leg, but on the other side of the pole to a cupid/star, flying cupid, marley, knee hold and reverse brass monkey. It's the same difference between a gemini hook and a brass monkey hook, I go gemini into a thigh hold into cupid into reverse brass monkey. It's pretty confusing, ay? I'll put my clearer photos of both moves next to each other for ya: Reverse Brass Monkey (or is it a Funky Monkey as I am gripping both ankles? Haven't gotten a no hands version yet, which I would then call Reverse Brass Monkey) http://localhosthttp://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs439.snc3/25236_340199514648_506809648_3013336_5267678_n.jpg Brass Monkey http://localhosthttp://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs087.snc3/15450_208266084648_506809648_2589339_26962_n.jpg Then there's the other leg to look at and it's positioning which is different from a cupid or marley. Here's me trying to show the difference: http://ver3.studioveena.com/lessons/view/3203 ... Veery clumsy. Will be working on this more. Veena, thank you for your concern and advice. I honestly feel no pain or pressure in my knee or knee pit at all when I hold the ankle. I have been told by instructors to use the hand on the pole variation sometimes to give my knee a break and they don't normally teach it with the hand holding the foot until Advanced 2 or 3, and I am just starting Advanced on Saturday. So, I have been well and truly told 🙂 I had tried knee holds and cupid/star before I started classes and was messing around at home and never managed one because, yes, I was not ready and it was painful. However, a year on since then I have gotten myself strong one leg hangs using the knee pit on pole and don't have to use my hip or other body parts to stabilize myself. I have also been taking preparation aerials classes which focus on static trapeze, so my hocks, as they call it, are quite good and strong right now. I engage muscles of almost the whole leg so that the tendons behind the knee are protected. Squeezing all of those muscles to get foot to butt gives better grip and is safer than just hanging by friction. Our instructors in aerials actually hold our ankles if we look like we've not got a good hock grip. But I suppose that's a bit different from hanging off it. If I felt bad non-skin grip pain or worrying and uncomfortable resistance in my knee (as I do trying to get that Remi layback), I would stop immediately and wait until I was stronger or more flexible to try again. I did a no-hands cupid with my head and torso facing downwards accidentally yesterday when I let my hands go to wipe them on my shorts before trying to get into upside down splits, so I think I will train a no-hands cupid now and then I'll pad my floor with couch cushions and go for a no-handed reverse brass monkey. Very good point, thankyou! I hope I didn't seem to be trying to invalidate it by 'excusing' myself. I must say that if you try a cupid to reverse brass monkey, PLEASE use couch cushions or a crash mat and move your leg past the front of the pole slooowly, because the momentum given by swinging your leg can make you pop off the pole, as I have done once before. You may not think you're high up and might think you're able to catch yourself with your hands, but it is a long, heavy and dangerous fall for your elbow, hip or your head. It is secure, but only if you're in the right position, just like there's a correct and secure position for a Brass Monkey. I would add a disclaimer to my vids expressing concern about the risk to the knee and the potential grip instability, but then everyone would have to do that for every single pole move in case someone who's not done one before and may not be ready for it tries it without proper instruction or caution.
Veena ·
No worries at all, I was letting everyone know, I was not addressing you specifically MilienElayne 🌸 we get a lot of traffic and readers on the forum ....not all have the advantage of trapeze or some other apparatus or an instructor for that matter, to help them know how to engage the muscles properly and I have met some dancers that just hold them self up with the shear force of pulling on that foot and not engaging the hamstrings at all.
I have met some dancers that just hold them self up with the shear force of pulling on that foot and not engaging the hamstrings at all. Um. Ow. 😲 😮 You'd think the pain would inform them to do otherwise. Some people I just don't get.
sable ·
A move I've seen. Let me see if I can find a picture.
