Foxypink started this discussion ·
Help I just can't seem to get the Gemini it seems to be really sore behind my knee when I grip. But my grip does not seem to be strong enough to hold my weight so I need to use a hand and my hand seems to get in the way! I am using my left leg to come across the pole and my right side is touching the pole. I so wish I could get it! Please help! 😠
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Kari828 ·
Hey Foxy! I'm having the same problem too!! sorry i don't have any advice, just words of encouragement!! let me know when you get it and maybe you'll be able to help me out!! sore knee "pit" has kept me from tryin it for a couple days...good luck!! 👍
Foxypink ·
Thank you for the encouragement! I've had a day off the pole today but I am going to try again tomorrow. My knee pit is soooooo sore! I will keep you posted! Let me know how you get on too! X 😀
Foxy_Rei ·
I'm not sure how much help I can be, but let's see... When I learned the gemini (and the scorpio, too) my problem was the pole burn on the inside of my thigh, not my knee... So the only thing I'm thinking of is experiment with how you're gripping the pole and see if you can grip with your thigh more than the knee??? 😕 ❓ But then again, everyone has different levels of pain tolerance in different parts of their bodies, so maybe you have like uber resilient thighs and I have the resilient knees! 😀 Another thing I would try is to try to take the weight off that leg a bit, like still hold on with your hands or if you're doing it no-handed, let your armpit take a bit more weight (but don't fall!). Let your knee get used to the feeling of the pole and the friction, and slowly add more weight on the leg alone as it gets used to it. Fortunately, there are usually only 2 answers to pain in pole dancing. Unfortunately, they're not very good answers! It's usually either the grip is wrong or it's just a matter of sucking it up and getting used to it... lol! 😂 But maybe some of the other girls here have some better tips... Good Luck! 🥂
amcut ·
the archier your back and the pointer your toes the easier it seems to be. ... I have a really hard time when I don't shave the back of my legs (even though you can only FEEL the hair back there, not see it. and it still feels soft. LAME.)
RoxyPink ·
When doing a gemini, you want to treat you knee as a third hand. When you grip the pole where is your foot pointing??? It should be pointing as much to the floor as possible. Don't let go with your hands until you become comfortable with your knee grip. Also, the pole should touch your side b/n your hip bone and bottom rib. I've found that if my body isn't in the "perfect" position, it can still hurt a tad behind the knee. Good luck and as with most...ok all...pain comes with the territory. It will get better! 😀
Foxypink ·
Hey there thank you so much for all the advice. I will try all the tips everyone has given. I am off on a weekend break tomorrow and unfortunately I can't take my pole with me, boo, hiss! So I will be back at it on Monday! Thanks everyone! Have a good weekend X
Tyshiva ·
I have the same problem as you. I will try your tricks and let you know 🙂 Thanks everyone
I find it easier to get into if I do the inverted teddy bear (also called a variety of other things I think - hip hold?) first, then because I'm already holding the pole in the right place, it's easy enough to lift my legs up and over to the gemini with minimum of pain:)
Tyshiva ·
Hello Sassafrassle, Can i show me a link with a hip hold, please. I don't know what is it, and i want to try your way! I am slipping each time i am trying the gemini and my hand got stuck under my thigh, it is very painful and frustrated 🙁 I want to do it!!!!! :/ Thank you for your advice.
This is some good info. I'm having problems with my gemini too and I'm going to try all of this stuff out! I don't know what a hip hold or teddy bear is either 🤔
TrinaS08 ·
Help I just can't seem to get the Gemini it seems to be really sore behind my knee when I grip. But my grip does not seem to be strong enough to hold my weight so I need to use a hand and my hand seems to get in the way! I am using my left leg to come across the pole and my right side is touching the pole. I so wish I could get it! Please help! 😠 hey foxy look up fleur's tutorial on it. she helped me learn it!! that chick is awesome!!! 🥂 ☀️
TrinaS08 ·
This is some good info. I'm having problems with my gemini too and I'm going to try all of this stuff out! I don't know what a hip hold or teddy bear is either 🤔 LOL sissybuns. me either..LOL>.
Fleur ·
I'm sure Veena has a lesson for this move, check it out!
Tyshiva ·
I have seen Veena's lesson! But... I still can't stay on the pole! I'am falling down 🙁 I am not sur about which parts should press the pole ...
TrinaS08 ·
I'm sure Veena has a lesson for this move, check it out! fleur i haven't seen Veena's but your tutorial helped me get the gemini
Go to wikipole and look under hip hold in the pole moves directory:) (And if you haven't tried it before, it might look intimidating but it's really not - let me know if you need any tips on getting into it:))
Veena ·
I have seen Veena's lesson! But... I still can't stay on the pole! I'am falling down 🙁 I am not sur about which parts should press the pole ... The armpit of the knee (so behind the knee your stomach (side of torso and somewhat along the front too) this is why its best to learn it with as much skin showing as possible and under your armpit 🌸
Tyshiva ·
Thank you Veena, Thank you everyone for the details! I am trying very hard to do it for a few days now, but i have the feeling that i will get it tomorrow!! 😉 I will let you know how it went! Thanks again
TrinaS08 ·
Thank you Veena, Thank you everyone for the details! I am trying very hard to do it for a few days now, but i have the feeling that i will get it tomorrow!! 😉 I will let you know how it went! Thanks again good luck hunni!! 🥂
Tyshiva ·
Hello everyone, Just a little post to say thank you for your advice! I finally managed to get the gemini few weeks ago (i took a picture of it, i hope it is the right position 🙂 I wanted to say a special thank you to "amcut ", because thanks to her i did shave the little invisible hairs behind my knee (I know .. It doesnt sound sexy, sorry lol) and it really reduced the pain! 🙂 Thank you again everyone!!! xxJennyxx
Meaghan ·
Ok so I have been trying to get this one and just couldn't. I thought my abs weren't strong enough to get my legs up high enough but that wasn't it at all. All of a sudden it just clicked. Don't know how, don't know why but I just kept practicing and watching the video over and over (even though I had it memorized from watching so many times!) So happy and all I can say is practice and make sure that your hip/oblique is on the pole.
Mechie ·
I wonder if anyone from this thread actually GOT the Gemini?? I just started to learn this move a couple of days ago (through Veena's lesson)...oh man...I think the pole took some of my skin... (I'm still working on the part where your knee-pit hook over the pole and my hands haven't even left the pole yet...) I'm not a big girl...5'4, 111lbs, but when my knee-pit / thigh grab the pole, my flesh looks "rubbery" (like Play-Doh)...Does your skin supposed to toughen up or am I just not engage my muscle hard enough? Any idea?? And yes...it hurts like AAAAHHH...but I'm guessing I'll get used to it...I really want to look pretty on the pole instead of having my skin/meat grab onto the pole looking like Play-Doh 🙁
@ mechie- Yes you will get it and yes it REALLY hurts when you first try it. I recall the 'playdough' feeling! It does go away. Almost all pole moves hurt like hell when you first try them but in time your skin will toughen up and your muscles will remember. Don't be too hard on yourself! Baby steps. Pole dancing is HARD work!
Veena ·
Mechie the Play-Doh reference made me giggle a bit,.....I know what you mean, but for me its on my belly! Yes, your Knee Pit will toughen up and the pain goes away. I have a bit of rough skin from time to time when I have done a lot of Gemini's. 🌸There is no rush to take the hands off, Some dancers may never let go with the hands. Its all about what a person is comfortable with. 😉
PoleNerd ·
Gemini is now one of my strongest moves, but it was a disheartening, excrutiating struggle at first. Your leg has to be placed at a very precise angle (OMG THE PAIN), and your side has to be angled very precisely as well (OMG THE PAIN). For me, most of the pressure goes on my side. It is usually bright red after I pole - your side has to be REALLY UP IN THAT POLE! an in-person example or up-close video would be so helpful for this (maybe i could make one?) That is not to sat that there is not a lot of pressure on my hooked leg - that's why it looks horrible, like cottage cheese. There is so much pressure on your skin, fat, and muscle! Sorry Mechie, that probably is not what you want to hear, at all. For those of you who are struggling, you WILL get it. You really have to play around with the angle of your hooked leg and your side. It will hurt like hell at first, but iI promise it will go away. The pole also has to be really good and sticky when you're learning, so you can wiggle around trying to find the right angle.
