Charley started this discussion ·
I'm selling my SSA - I'm asking $400 or best offer. Will ship - I still have the original boxes however shipping will be pretty expensive. This stage is barely used. If you do need it shipped make me an offer and we can work something out.
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Hi CHarley, can I ask why you are selling it? Im looking for another stage, but not sure if this one or the xpole stage lite is better? thoughts? Elisabeth
Charley ·
Elizabeth - I really don't think the SSA is a good pole for professional use. The extensions screw together so that means left handed spins will unscrew the threading. I have extensions for it and used it for one show and the top extension came unscrwed while I was in a cross knee release and I had to very gingerly get myself below the threading and then climb up and screw it back together. PS has claimed the pole isn't stable above 8ft and a number of other things. I hear they now have an EZconnect system instead of threading but it's not a free upgrade on the older models. If I were you I would stick with X-pole. I wish I had bought an X-stage Lite to begin with and am hoping some of the proceeds from this will go towards the X Lite. I'm just selling it because inspite of the warnings there are people who do want this pole so I'm trying to take a fair prices and recoup my loss and take it as a lesson learned and buy a Lite.
THank you for your honesty. I would be using it for performances, so it would probably work best for someone just working out at home practicing some tricks. Hope things are good with you, take care, E
tezbuh ·
i am interested in aquiring one of these. is it dangerous for at home use? and is it possible to upgrade to safe model from this older model?
Charley ·
You can't upgrade as far as I know. This pole has been sold and I'm on my way to an X-stage Lite.
ItsEss ·
I'm hoping to "bump" this thread. I am currently looking a stand alone/ stage pole. Preferably a 45 and I'm leaning towards Platimum Stages. I have a 45 sport that I would be willing to trade also. Mine is a 45 chrome X Sport (it does not spin). It's barely used with all parts, including carrying case.
You should look up studio veena youtube video on platinum stages and xpole side by side demo it's very helpful
Charley ·
They've redone this pole a couple times now, I am not sure if its better than the original model I had or not. If you want a cheap stand alone for expos where you will be doing mostly beginner things I recommend this pole but if you are doing big tricks or performances I really highly encourage you to get the x stage. I love my x stage a fully trust it. It's be through hundreds of performers and stood up!
ItsEss ·
Thanks Charly, I want to be able to crazy tricks and lots of combos, photoshoots, practice, you name! I want to get my money's worth. The only reason I was leaning towards PS b/c of the review that was on Youtube. With that being said, how is the stability of the pole in your opinion WITHOUT those extended feet sticking out?
ItsEss ·
*Charley ....sorry for the misspelling :-)
ItsEss we made this side by side demo for the two poles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYApdFKTewA
Charley ·
The video that sv did shows perfectly. From my experience and I'm 5'5 120ibs its pretty good. I do recommend weights for spinning mode as does X-pole. It also depends on your floor surface, mine is much better on carpet I've seen a light slide across a tile floor before without weights and without the feet extended. I really love the lite, I had the stand alone and it literally would slide around my basement. The xstage is much heavier and does not, with feet in.
ItsEss ·
Thank you all so much!! Webmaster and Yuengling I just saw the video! That was scary when it lifted right off the floor. Charley thanks again! I'm going to post a new thread looking for an X-stage. My other poles are Xpole but the legs was what was turning me off. But I think I'm going to have to go with safety! Thanks to all for the input!!!
Charley ·
The legs aren't a big deal and I've used mine loads in the basement without the legs out. You will need them for spin but they pop in and out pretty easily. A freestanding pole without legs like that is much less stable and moves around a lot. The stand alone is best used for studios on a budget that need something inexpensive to showcase basic things, they can also be great for party instructors if you buy the cart, then you don't worry about ceiling height and it lighter than the x. But for a do it all pole stick with x-pole. I know you're looking for a used one to get a deal so keep an eye out for events, sometimes x-pole provides stage poles for special events and they sell them at a nice discount.
The thing about the leg extensions is that both poles allow you to operate without them. However the Platinum Stages pole doesn't have the option of extending the legs for extra support so the leg extensions are all pro and no con.
i own a new design star stand alone (the pole extensions do not screw together) i LOVE it bc static to spinny is very very easy with pin removal. I have never had any problems with it. Putting it together is so easy and the stage pieces fit snuggly together with no unsafe gaps. HOWEVER- while I have never tipped the base, I do believe it is possible for it to tip with enough force. (as seen in veena's video. that other video with the two girls leaning out on the SSA and showing it could not tip, i sincerely believe they were trying to not tip it) I have danced on an X-stage for performances and love it as well. Because of the leg extensions on an X-stage, I believe that pole would probably never tip. The leg extensions, while ensuring safety, do present a problem if you are in a dark room performing for a crowd and can possible stub your toe or trip (omg and in heels... woah- you can imagine) Those leg extensions hurt! I do not feel as though I will ever tip my SSA- I am not a reckless poler. I don't spin out of control. I know what I'm doing. I've done spins at the very tip top of the pole and the pole never tipped and no part of the base ever left the earth. If some drunk people try spinning on my pole and they throw their bodies on it, they may tip the whole thing over, but I would never allow that scenario to happen. :) No one messes with my pole unless they are a serious poler. So, to summarize, I think my SSA pole is safe and I enjoy not having leg extensions.
Just want to stress, because it seems to be a common belief. You do not have to extend the legs. With the legs not extended the pole has the same base size as the Platinum stages, if however you need the extra stability its nice to know that you can extend the legs.
If you are on the tall side I would not suggest an SSA. On a side note, this was an interview with Sheila Kelley last year. She had both poles on stage during the interview. First off, notice all of the stuff they stuck under the SSA base to level it and make it so it does not slide. Second, look at the height out of the box of the poles, and lastly, look at the movement of each. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT4RSGCr5rg
I agree with Katana!! I really love my pole too and I bought the tallest extension altho xpole is a little taller. It was easy to assemble after the first attempt! It is very sturdy and has not raised up,but yes, I think with enuf force it mite…. I have never tried xstage lite and would like to out of curiosity but I am happy with PS. Customer service was outstanding.
Oh and mine is the one with ezconnect that will not unscrew….just like Katana's I believe.
StephiiP ·
I've had my star stand alone for two months and love it. Well built and stable. I setup in my spare bedroom and outside on a concrete slab. I have not had any fear of tipping or the pole disconnecting I'm 5'8 180lbs. Xpole is a great company as well. I have two traveling poles one 45 and one 50. Well built and reliable as well. I have not played on an xpole stage.
Yes I saw the video with Shelia Kelley and all the stuff under the PS to level it. My guess is that maybe they didnt have the little stabliizers (they work like screws sort of ) all the way down hitting the floor. They all have to make contact with the floor or maybe the floor was uneven there? Not sure but mine doesnt give me any trouble like that. I did see that and wonder about it too.
wondered
X-Stage was designed to be as flexible as possible. X-Pole market survey 100% demanded the highest pole possible and 3m (10') was the minimum height requested. We met that request and the X-Stage can be used as it is for anything less than 'Extreme' moves as it is. The extending legs were added as an additional feature so if 'Extreme' moves or large guys (like Nick Judd) were using the X-Stage it could be used without additional weight. What everyone seems to forget when discussing stages is that the Width/Diameter to Height to Weight ratio are factors that cannot be got away from. The lighter the stage or higher the pole the more diameter or weight are needed to ensure stability. It is not possible to have a very light stage that has a high pole which is not very wide etc. - Unless of course it is fixed to the floor or has additional weight added to increase its overall weight! X-Pole's solution, to give as much flexibility as possible, was to add the extending legs as an option to use if necessary (they are free and come with it!). X-Stages are as stable as or more stable than any other circular stage (of a similar diameter) in today' market without the legs extended!! Also X-Stage has weight posts so that addition Dumb Bell weights can be added to the Standard X-Stage if the legs cannot be used - such as for competitions. As it is difficult to add weight to the X-Stage Lite, X-Pole has recently released Stage Weight Plates (Set if 3 pcs) that can be used on ‘All' X-Stages (Standard and Lite). These fit to the bottom of the main frame, inside the stage perimeter, so that additional weight, either as sand bags or weights, can be added quickly and easily. Once again these Weight Plates make the X-Stage the most flexible product on the market today. We hope this helps and should you need any more information please contact your local X-Pole office. Best Regards X-Pole Tech Team
Charley ·
I love you x-pole tech! I've used weights on my lite before. Very easy. I'm happy to hear about the stage specific weights and will get them. Also you can buy a shorter pole piece and use it in a house. I did that so I could practice on it. I think the extension was only $30 and if your order it with the stage they will Pack it and thus saves shipping on it.
