XLauraX started this discussion ·
I know everyone is different but roughly how long did it take you to be able to spin just using one arm? I have seen quite a few of the member videos and the girls look amazing doing it. I would say I have just crossed over from beginner to intermediate but I am no where near confiedent enough to use one arm to spin. :) x x
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I think I did mine entirely by accident but it was probably within my first 3-4 months of poling.
RoseMay ·
6 weeks :-)
Yeah..I would say mine was within 3-4 months or so. The first time I tried it, I had my hand way to high and whapped myself pretty damn good into the pole.
Oh, and making sure you have proper scapular engagement is important. You really don't want to be hanging from that shoulder.....
6-8 weeks, but I still find it tough if I'm not warm enough or if my arms are getting tired at the end of a workout. Lefty is also tougher than righty but I can go one handed on each. I can honestly say there was a considerable fear period in the beginning for me which didn't help.
Later ·
Roughly 2 and half -3 months. My hands were pretty weak when I started where as the girl I poled with was able to hold on with 1 hand after about 1 and a half to 2 months. It will happen =)
Sair ·
about a month and a half :) It'll happen whenever you really really start trusting your grip ;)
Being able to do 1 handed spins on both sides was the "pre-requisite" to move to intermediate at the old studio I went to. So probably about a 4-6 weeks for me before I started doing 1-handers, It definitely requires confidence in grip!
Veena ·
XLauraX, don't rush into one handed spins! These can be just as harmful to your body if your not strong enough and do not have the proper positioning as inverting can. I consider all one handed spins intermediate. in fact only a handful of spins are in the beginner section they are all placed at the end and most of them are half spins. You must build up the strength in the shoulders, wrist and hands before you fling your body around the pole. I know spins seem easy to learn but that does not make them appropriate for beginners. Can you do a controlled Pole Hold for 3-5 sec's or 2 breaths? Can you do a double Pole Climb? Are your basic spins (ones done with 2 hands while facing the pole) done with control and proper scapula engagement? When you can answer yes to these then you may be ready to start working on one handed spins 🌸
It depends on the spin, for me. It takes me a while to get that kind of strength going, so it takes at least a few months of semi-casual poling to get there for the basic Fireman spin. Others...well, I've not gotten strong enough yet!
Cinara ·
It definitely depends on the spin. I could do spins with at least one leg on the pole on static within about 6 weeks, but I do have a gymnastic background. Spins with one hand and at least one leg on the pole on spinny setting in about 2-3 months. One handed spins on static with legs off the pole... well I could do a few after about 6 months. And one-handed spins with both legs off the pole? I have done two different spins once each and I've been poling for a year. I find it takes less strength to hold an aysha (hands on, legs off upside down) than to hang off one hand on spin. (At least for me) And as a cautionary tale: any spin where your hands are in a split grip should be counted as a one-handed spin. You can really injure your bottom hand if you place much weight on it when you spin with your thumb pointing down. I make sure I'm not even gripping the pole with my bottom hand, just placing it on the pole and pushing.
Once you think you are ready, start slow. Start with a basic fireman, mount with two hands like normal, but remove the bottom hand before you land. Slowly work yourself up to not needing the hand at all. Then start trying other more difficult spins; facing the pole, backward facing, and forward facing. Once you have the strength to be confident in spinning one handed you can start trying different things to do with your free hand, like placing it on your knee, running it through your hair, grabbing your ankle/foot, experiment!
Veena ·
I totally agree with you Cinara when it comes to the Aysha and strength. Also with the split grips, that bottom hand should not be taking much weight (if any) at all. I get emails were students have been taught split grips spins and reverse grab spins in beginner classes 😲and had ended up with injuries. I think people see spins as simple or beginner moves because they are done from the ground and not up on the pole 🙁
Cinara ·
I was taught a cradle with a split grip as a beginner move, and a split grip boomerang spin after about 8 weeks. These were easy for my instructor, I think because she's very tiny and lightweight, but for us more average to heavy people it takes more strength than you can get without a lot of training. (I am not overweight by any measure, so I really do mean average!) At first my forearms were fine, because I have hyperextended elbows which bizarrely reduced pressure on my forearms. But of course, it put pressure on my elbows and I started getting tendonitis. So I watched that my elbows were not hyperextended and that strained my forearms badly, and they're still not entirely recovered after 9 months! A lot of tricks are only advanced because they require more spatial awareness, or are more dangerous if you were to fall out of them. I agree with you, Veena that a lot of spins are very, advanced, even though some people assume they are easier than inversions. I am more scared of one handed spins than some drop moves! There are plenty of spins I don't even attempt yet.
XLauraX ·
Thanks guys, some good advice here I plan on taking :) Yeah I can pole sit, pole hold, pole climb ..... I can do all the beginner moves, Took a while getting them right but got there in the end :) Dont worry, I dont plan on attempting to spin one handed until I have enough confidence in my grip and myself, I can let go and just use one hand mid spin, I just cant start a spin using one hand. Im still coming to grips with the split grip, though I can see (and feel) the progress I have made when it comes to my upper arm strenght. Thanks again ladies :)
KellieM ·
is there any video lessons for this ?😊 I can do all Venna said is required but one hand spins are definitely my downfall right now and have alwayssss been😔 I don't give up tho. I can invert and do normal basic spins (static) but not one handed and the other girls make it look SOO easy !!
Veena ·
Do you mean spinning on spinning pole with one hand or static?
KellieM ·
one handed spins on static.. both sides of course!☺️ like even the basic fireman spin and such with just one hand...I'm frustrated after months since most do it sooo easily since day one. not me. I can't seem to find a video here or online as Venna breaks all moves down to make sense for my brain...🥰 I'm trying normal spins and taking my bottom hand off but nope..I just fall like a bag of potatoes. I know the pole pull up with one hand conditioning.. I also always struggled with that too and still do. I'm not sure if I don't have the grip..(normal spins fine) or strength (I can climb and sit and invert) I could never get one handed spins..maybe my muscles are still not use to it ?? I even bought a pull up bar hoping to help one hand spins (what our studio calls them)... but maybe I don't know the right conditioning or workouts or right technique 😂🤷🏼♀️
Veena ·
It's a matter of strength building. There's no trick that will teach you how to hold the whole body up with one hand. 😊 You want to start with spins the face the pole like fireman, carousels, then move on to chair and forward attitudes etc as those are forward facing spins and you can use the outside hand to assist. Most people I've worked with can't spin with one hand easily or quickly. It takes training. Something else to remember, if you don't have the momentum and timing behind you, then holding is more difficult. Spinning with one hand is really challenging and isn't something you suddenly learn, you have to work up to it. Doing the lessons in the order I have them is helpful. Also, if you're talking about spins like reverse grab? Those types require shoulder mobility, timing and lots of training to make sure you have the strength to support all the stress placed on the shoulder. I never suggest working on Reverse grab until you can do a single hand chair. This routine will be helpful and PLEASE stretch your forearms if you're focusing on spins. https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/5e7506d9-4224-4491-8439-4bc4ac110005 Check that your shoulder engagement is good as well. https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/5e7034cf-2b58-4d29-a149-1be9ac110005 If you post a video I can tell right away if it's a strength or technique issue.
KellieM ·
you don't know how much I appreciate and am THANKFUL your replies to my threads(even years after their posted) Venna, gives the right direction to the proper videos... 🥰🥰🥰(you help more than some teachers I had in class) you taught me to climb before I even went to a studio or took a class. I'll forever recommend studio Veena and when I do, this is the exact reason why! GREAT VIDEOs, GREAT INSTRUCTOR, GREAT SERVICE.. so excited to finally be in the right direction. thank-you thank-you !
Veena ·
You're welcome! Let me know how it goes!
