shouldermount somersault

azzwoo started this discussion · 10/28/2009

hey guys! So tonight I tried the shouldermount where you take both your legs one side of the pole and flip all the way over? So I had a go really close to the ground, worked out the grip and hey presto, made it over......kinda. The problem I'm having is that I keep catching the back of my head (occiput) on the pole and pulling my head forwards, on one go I saw stars and I think i've just about given myself whip-lash ------- ok maybe i'm being a bit dramatic, but it does hurt! I think i'm twisting to the side as I come over, can anyone tell me why or give any hints to stop this before i break my neck?? thanks in advance!

26 replies

SissyBuns · 10/28/2009
Are you talking about a SM flip?
Veena · 10/28/2009
I think your talking about the SM flip...that what I call it. I'll have this one in my new lessons, but for now, here is a video I took of myself when I was learning the move. I did it into a split, not onto the pole. I'll teach it both ways in the lessons. 🌸 http://ver3.studioveena.com/lessons/view/215
pole-twista · 10/29/2009
what an amazing move. i mentioned this w comment on vid but do you need to have your hands spread apart more than normal in the double baseball grip into shoulder mount cartwheel? 🤔 thats brave btw. great job!
azzwoo · 10/29/2009
yeah thats the one! I can already see from your vid V where i'm going wrong, I was taking my legs to the wrong side of the pole! Thanks!
RoxyPink · 10/29/2009
woohoo! congrats! I just got this one with in the past month and it's fun and scary all at the same time...plus it's killer on the shoulder!! It reminded me of how bad the sm felt when I was learning that! 😀
suncatcher · 10/29/2009
can i wear shoulder pads while learning pleaaase!!! 😀 just kidding, havent got even shoulder mount yet kills my shoulder bones.
SissyBuns · 10/29/2009
can i wear shoulder pads while learning pleaaase!!! 😀 just kidding, havent got even shoulder mount yet kills my shoulder bones. HAHAHAHA, if you do it in shoulder pads you better post a video! Roxy isn't this the move that had you unable to turn your head when we were in VA? LOL
suncatcher · 10/29/2009
The more I think about it , yeah it will work just tuck them under my strap. I'll post a vid just 4 you cause I think I'm going to do it 😂
azzwoo · 10/29/2009
ohmygod my shoulder is so sore today girls! roxy I am definitely getting the old shouldermount learner feeling again! owwwww
maddieLines · 10/29/2009
I shall be trying this one!never seen it before 🙂 x
Veena · 10/29/2009
Its much less scary if you scoot way down and try it. Almost like a SM on the floor, but a little higher so you don't bang your knees on the way over!!! The first time I tried it was with Fleur, at the studio where she teaches and I was so scared, because the have hardwood floors. I kept landing to the side of the pole not behind! 😂
Gsylass · 10/29/2009
Azz if I caught it on tape do you want me to post it up here?
maddieLines · 10/29/2009
So u gotta land behind the pole in theory?i imagine it is scary,i shall try this move tomorrow,im guessing going faster works better to get u over?x
azzwoo · 10/29/2009
yes please hannah! for giggles seeing as I got it all wrong! 🥂
bebeduckie · 10/30/2009
for me shoulder mount hurts my collarbone after i've flipped over onto the pole. i've tucked a towel under my bra strap before. it works!
SissyBuns · 10/30/2009
I'd love to try this flip but I don't know if I'm strong enough. What would be a good precurser to let one know if she was ready? Just put some couch cushions under me and go for it? LOL
azzwoo · 10/30/2009
safety wise I guess you should be able to control the movement rather than just throwing yourself over, so I would maybe see if you can do a super invert and hold it for 10 secs as a marker maybe? I think you've def gotta be able to hold a shoulder mount in various positions for a length of time? ah sod it, have a go anyway! just put some cushions down! lol
maddieLines · 10/31/2009
I tryed this yesterday and i found my head got in the way and i ended up in a heap lol,i did it quiete slow so im thinking i didnt have enough momentom to get me over.Its harder than it looks and it is scary!x
MissJulie · 10/31/2009
Oooooooo this was my next move I was going to try to learn... I want to do it on the pole as I still don't have the best splits.... I'm all about shoulder mounts.... walking shoulder mounts, shoulder mount spins on a spinning pole, shoulder mount to superman, etc. etc. Maybe this is the reason I feel like I've been kicked in the ribs for two weeks though 🙂 I need to take some time off. Julie
azzwoo · 10/31/2009
yay! I managed this move last night (once i'd given my poor shoulder a couple of days to calm down lol) andposted a vid..... think it might be my new favourite move (as every new one is!), so much fun! 🥂
MilienElayne · 3/29/2010
I'm a bit late to this party... but I LOVE SM flip! I am confused as to why I haven't felt any pain with this at all though. I have been doing SMs since Dec 2009, so maybe that's why...but I don't feel pressure or strain any differently to a normal SM, in fact I feel it less. Perhaps because I take mine looow like limbo and flip to a stand? I can do it higher up, but it doesn't look or feel as much like a flip on me that way. I've seen this done on to the pole and to the floor from a height and it looks uncomfortable, especially if done slowly. Karol's low SM flip to a split is what I looked at before doing mine. Didn't see this thread... Veena's to a stand and split in this thread looks awesome, but in a recent video she did one slower from standing to a stand that looked painful to me. I've 'taught' it to an instructor where I take classes as she'd not seen it live and as fast and flippy as mine and hadn't tried it before. She kept doing it higher and with a kick (not that she'd ever need a kick up, she's strong?) for 'more momentum', she also tried it from a SM pike and controlled it... for both she said it hurt! And little student me was doing it ten times over fast and furious (IN HEELS) with no pain at all. So weird! I feel like from a very low position the hips roll over without having to get momentum from a kick or using more gravity and it doesn't wrench your shoulder at all. Or am I just crazy? Did Veena ever make this a lesson?
Veena · 3/29/2010
I have not made that lessons yet...but I will 😀 It is not painful for me either. The two best ways I have found to keep the pain away is speed and when going slow, you must have proper placement on the trap. 🌸
azzwoo · 3/29/2010
I don't feel pain now I've learned to do it correctly!! lol
pole-twista · 3/29/2010
wow ! i think thats so impressive! i am too much of a chicken to try at this point. think i would break 76% of the bones in my body! keep trying would love to see a vid! good work!
Mary Ellyn · 3/30/2010
I was already doing the SM flip when I saw this but Alethea was teaching the girls to do it from a crouch position with knees bent when we were in Jamaica last year and this seems to work well. Also, as you go up and over, look back down over your shoulder and "spot" the area on the floor behind you that you expect/want to land in.

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