Shoulder Mount Grips! Which one for what move...?

Angie La · 2012-04-15T15:07:38+00:00

Ok, so I searched first to see of there was already a thread on this because I thought certainly there would be. Anyhoo... Shoulder mount grips! Which ones do you use? Do you switch 'em up? And do you have a favorite? My go to grip had been the Veena grip--until I started the shoulder dismount, which totally got me thinking. I always used the veena grip b/c it felt more secure all the way to the top. But, the more I am playing with different things (SM splits, V's, hopefully stalls...), I am noticing it feels awkward to use the Veena grip. Like the shoulder dismount, impossible with veena grip so I have to take the cup grip. Tried the cup grip once to v-up and mount, it worked, but I almost hated every second of it. Maybe I will revisit it later. What got me thinking about it more was after watching Felix's videos. She uses the Princess grip (aka twisted grip, and I've even heard it called the "safety grip"). I tried it and I think I like it, but it almost doesn't feel natural. Now the claw grip, that just looks creepy...would it even work? Maybe I am thinking about this too hard, but I'm really searching for some view points on the different uses on the SM grips. 🤓

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Veena · 4/16/2012
I also consider the true and Chinese grip the same! :)
tiggertail · 4/16/2012
Good subject because i always did sm the wrong way, I do cup grip but my hands or switch, anyway it work so i'm good. But i want to work on superman to sm and stuff like that, i bet it's more easy with one arms extended. I did try the claw grip (not bad but not pretty lol) and i think i'm gonna give it a try with Veena's grip, look safe to try super invert.
Kyrsten · 4/16/2012
The forward/Chinese grip I described is the one in the video Elektra linked. I really don't know the technical name for it, I usualyly just call it a forward grip but I've seen it called a Chinese grip. You can see me do a whole bunch of them here at :25 www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZp-MWXN-s So.. is that a Chinese grip or not? LOL. I just have a miniature heart attack every time I see someone doing cup grip, I don't know. Not for me. Generally I use that grip if I'm mounting up and the Veena grip if I'm dismounting.
Kyrsten · 4/16/2012
The forward/Chinese grip I described is the one in the video Elektra linked. I really don't know the technical name for it, I usualyly just call it a forward grip but I've seen it called a Chinese grip. You can see me do a whole bunch of them here at :25 www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZp-MWXN-s So.. is that a Chinese grip or not? LOL. I just have a miniature heart attack every time I see someone doing cup grip, I don't know. Not for me. Generally I use that grip if I'm mounting up and the Veena grip if I'm dismounting.
Angie La · 4/17/2012
It seems one could also invent their own grip so don't worry if you have your hands switched, Tiggertail. I had no idea I was not using the right hand placement and have thought I was using the veena grip all along. I am just a lost pole dancer... Haha!
Angie La · 4/17/2012
It seems one could also invent their own grip so don't worry if you have your hands switched, Tiggertail. I had no idea I was not using the right hand placement and have thought I was using the veena grip all along. I am just a lost pole dancer... Haha!
Kyrsten · 4/17/2012
I also remember watching this video when learning to shoulder mount, she shows most of the grips described here (some named differently, but still) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N4RDL23Ex4 Looks like cup grip, forward/Chinese/double thumbs up, Veena grip, claw grip, twisted grip
emotioncatcher · 4/17/2012
I love the Cup Grip for SM Dismount and Stalls and the Veena Grip for Sm Flip and for slippery days :) The Princess Grip is great for some combos and I like it for SM Splits The forward/chinese grip feels uncomfortable for me and I think it´s not sooo pretty. I also like the elbow grip, but haven´t done it a lot
Krista Bocko · 4/17/2012
Are Veena and princess grip the same grip?
RikkiL · 4/17/2012
No, they are different grips. The Veena grip is also referred to as Safe or Flip grip - cup grip with hand on the same side as the shoulder, forward grip with the other hand. Someone described Princess grip earlier as the shoulder side hand extended up the pole and the other hand with a cup grip.
Krista Bocko · 4/17/2012
Ah, thanks...re-reading I see my question was already covered, too. I need some flashcards with grips and pole moves. 😉
Veena · 4/17/2012
Or you could use the new gallery here. It works on your phone too ;)
Krista Bocko · 4/17/2012
Does the princess grip have another name? I didn't see it in the gallery (looking for 'princess grip').
Chwenny · 4/17/2012
Don't quote me on this, but I think it might also be called the Candy grip. That's what it's called at Bobbi's anyway. And Felix started out training at Bobbi's didn't she? (Apologies if I'm mistaken!)
Angie La · 4/17/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVjz8LsmeU Shoulder mount, princess grip. This is the grip I have been using, so the name is already taken. Darn! 😉
Angie La · 4/17/2012
nope, my long arm is gripping the pole from the front... Still an odd ball.
hookedonpole · 4/17/2012
I'm so glad for this topic, I hadn't practiced veena grip in a while. Practiced it today for super sm. Will post clips soon to make sure I'm doing it correctly and for tips. I really, really like the veena grip. Just need to figure out how to do sm flip with it now.
Veena · 4/17/2012
No, JelliCrew, that's not the princess grip you've been doing...your hand is not gripping the pole from behind, but rather from the front. The princess grip your hand is behind like in the video....this grip can be nice to use too, but not everyone has the shoulder range of motion for it. 🌸
Veena · 4/17/2012
Oh just saw your 2nd post! LOL You already figured it out.
Angie La · 4/18/2012
To use tue Princess grip, or the odd ball grip...? I keep stopping in my "dancing" and kept focusing on the grips. I just don't want to be doing something stupid, and someone wonder, "what the heck was that???". Then I decided I don't care... I'll try not to. Ive had an really awkward pole week so I need a few days off, I think. Pole blues, sigh.