Seeking nutrition advice--anyone tried Poletein?

FuzzyNavel started this discussion · 1/10/2012

Hello! First off I know little about nutrition, so any advice you have is welcomed and appreciated. I am training harder with goals of getting much stronger for pole and also I would like to drop some extra weight. I cut back in calories and am working out nearly daily with cardio/strength or pole. I keep hearing lots about how important protein is for muscle building and after you workout you should have a "recovery drink"(?). Ok, so I am clueless and nutrition stores are overwhelming cause I have no idea what to use. What are your experiences/advice for nutritional supplements and such for pole training? How much is recommended? In what form? (bars, drinks, ??) Also, has anyone used--http://www.acauseforprotein.com/ Both their Transformation and Poletein powders caught my eye, but they are expensive and would have to be shipped. Any advice on protein supplementation or meal replacement or vitamins, etc. for strength AND weight loss??? I need help so I don't end up with an entire counter covered with giant tubs of things! 😲

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shannabella · 1/10/2012
Always get some kind of protein in you within 45 min after your workout. Your body needs it to help build muscle. Whey protein mixed with water is the easiest. I usually also have a piece of fruit with my shake too. Avoid fats post workout as it will slow protein absorption. I find most bars are too full of junk ingredients and too high in calories.
chemgoddess1 · 1/10/2012
I have one protein I have been buying for the last year plus that I really like and it is cheap. You can buy it at Walmart of all places and it is Body Fortress Whey Isolate. Be sure to get the isolate as it has fewer calories and cholesterol. It is abour $22 for a 2lb tub and tastes pretty decent. I like to mix it with orange juice (it tastes like and orange julius). They recently came out with a chocolate version of it but I have not seen it yet. http://www.bodyfortress.com/SUPER-ADVANCED-WHEY-ISOLATE I have tried a LOT of proteins. Dymatize makes a pretty decent protein as well as 4everfit (their fruit wheys are pretty tasty) and Optimum Nutrition. I try to stick with the isolates as they flavor better and mix well, plus they pack more protein for the punch.
Sunny Day · 1/10/2012
Just a couple ideas..(my credentials just in case :-) ..i am a nutritionist and my husband is a body builder so protein is a common subject for us)..if your aiming for weight loss and building mucle that can be very difficult because building muscle will increase wgt..im not familiar with those products you mentioned..but most protien shakes are used as a meal replacement containing high protein and high calories which may not be ideal if you want to lose wgt. As a nutrtionist I always recommend quality food over supplementation. Lean protiens such as egg whites, skinless chicken and baked fish can be beneficial for protien without the extra unwanted calories:-) I say.. save your money and enjoy some good tasting food! Hopefully this helps..good luck!
Felisha · 1/10/2012
Agree with sunny.. Ive been in the fitness world a while now, my husband is a blackbelt marine and bodybuilder.. If ur lookin to lose weight do cardio.. Doesn't mean run if that's not ur kinda thing, try zumba, turbo kickboxing. Lots of women don't like the gym but those are amazing classes that burn almost 700 cal. I've always and only taken whey protein. Ive seen it at walmart and grocery stores. But i buy mine from gnc or online from bodybuilding.com u can go to that website many people post reviews on products and they tell u what they are for so ur not lost on what ur buying. Mine tastes like chocolate milk that's how good it is.. People at gnc and online really help I'd say look around and decide what it is u really want ur body to look like and then decide what product is best for u
Picklepie · 1/10/2012
FuzzyNavel I was affiliated with Poletein for a while as a "poletein girl" and was behind the booth at convention. I can tell you from first hand experience that it really is a high quality product; it has no artificial sweetners, the flavors taste great, it it lactose free so it does not give you stomach trouble...like a lot of proteins. I used this product for months and loved its affects. It is not just a catchy name it really is a great protein. If you have any other questions Briana Michel is the founder and her email is [email protected].
chemgoddess1 · 1/11/2012
There is a lot of really good information on teh Oxygen site regarding difefrent types of proteins and supplements. They have found recently that creatine may be better for women than men. On a side note NEVER pay full price at GNC. http://www.oxygenmag.com/Nutrition/Articles.aspx?category=Supplements
FuzzyNavel · 1/11/2012
Thank you guys! (and thanks for the contact info too Pickle!) I am hoping I can slim down AND get stronger at the same time--so I am aiming to balance cardio with pole. When you are training, do you begin your day with a shake too or just use it after your workout?
chemgoddess1 · 1/11/2012
I am not a breakfast eater but I will make myself a smoothie on probably 3 days out of 5. I mix fruit, yogiurt, flax seeds and protein and then whatever else I feel like adding. On the nights I teach I do try to get protein in my system after class, whether it be meat or a shake.
FuzzyNavel · 1/11/2012
Great! Thank You!
Tara · 4/25/2012
Great tips. I am more curios about incoroprating creatine... Anyone see any changes in their bodies using creatine? If so, what did you notice? I've been using amino for my muscle recovery (and to help the pain), also I've been using a protein shake from BSN after workouts. Sometimes I use it as a MRP.
FeeDen · 4/26/2012
@Tara, I tried some of my husbands creatine, I gave it about twenty minutes to work,and I noticed it def gave me a quick explosive kind of strength, so I was able to get in and out of my Superman more easuily and have more strength for getting some combo I was trying. I've only used them a few times but they def add some power to my poling. I haven't taken them enough to make notice any physical changes and I'm still an intermediate poler.
ORGANIC ANGEL · 4/26/2012
My college health teacher said that whey protein and creatine is hard on the liver and REAL food is best! I simply eat a good meal afterwards(usually😀)
chemgoddess1 · 4/26/2012
There havhe been studies published lately that have shown that creatine is better for women to use than it is for men. Published studies show no effect on the kidney and liver from oral creatine use (the last one is from 2008): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10999421 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15795816 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18188581 All sorts of articles regarding the benefits of whey protein can be found on the may clinic site: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/whey-protein/NS_patient-wheyprotein/DSECTION=evidence I am not trying to be a pain Organic Angel, but I have no idea where your health instructor is getting his/her information.
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ORGANIC ANGEL · 4/26/2012
lol @chem- I'll post some links later...it also says right on the bottle of whey protein aboout kidney/liver I am in school for a health degree so medicine+the body are my studies- don't shoot the messenger😀
ORGANIC ANGEL · 4/26/2012
also 2008 is way outdated in science since then hundreds of medicines have been pulled b/c os safety yaz, mesh inserts, depuy hip devices etc. Creatine has been the latest w/bad info linked to it.
mspretty1414 · 4/26/2012
my ex played professional football and took creatine, NO2, and protein for years, I don't think the team doctors would have okayed it if it was dangerous...
ORGANIC ANGEL · 4/26/2012
@mspretty-sure No doc is going to have a player exert their full performance for sake of millions invested in each player for a select amount of time suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure ;) Honey, the docs care about how the playersare going to perform while they have them; the long term effects are usually overlooked-for example concussions and brain damage from all of the tackles are a long term effect-they happen but still advise them to play knowing these risks/happenings All of the docs gave the devices and drugs listed in my earlier post when they believed that they were safe or when they outweighed any risks. Science changes over time;that's all I am saying. We used to give women x-rays of their abdomen 40 years ago to see if our bodies could handle a birth for EVERY pregnancy but NOW we know that they are NOT good for fetuses and our reproductive organs/ eyes and thyroids are sensitive to the radioactivity. We now do different things as science has changed or we learned more... I'll list some links as stated later 😎
mspretty1414 · 4/26/2012
Sorry girl, do what you do but being a former collegiate athlete myself I do not agree, I don't need links and please don't call me honey.
ORGANIC ANGEL · 4/26/2012
@mspretty I am sure others would want to see a true glance at the statistics given from doctors so I will still post, but not for you. Chem posted some links that were a bit outdated so I offered to put some up. I need to get some of the links directly from my professor and directly from my schools database/research. This thread isn't about me or you but about the those that are seeking nutrition advice as originally stated by the thread operator. I apologize if you took offense to "honey".I was only trying to lay down a nonconfrontational tone. I know of many "former collegiate athletes" who took various substances into their bodies that were not good for them but they still did; wether you did or didn't isn't the issue. The true issue is if those things are GOOD for us or not and what the science says about us taking those substances into our bodies.
chemgoddess1 · 4/26/2012
I am trying to find links to the referenced studies, but this was published in Oxygen magazine about this time last year: http://www.oxygenmag.com/Competition/Articles/Is-Creatine-Right-For-You.aspx
chemgoddess1 · 4/26/2012
Here is the boook on Amazon (published in 2010): http://www.amazon.com/Essentials-Creatine-Sports-Health-Jeffrey/dp/1617377198 From the back cover: "A great deal of misinformation is present in popular culture regarding the effects of creatine supplementation on health and sports performance. For instance, it is not uncommon for various media outlets to claim, in spite of the lack of supporting evidence, that 'supplementing with creatine is harmful to the liver and kidneys and may cause dehydration and cramping.' In reality, creatine is intimately involved in energy metabolism, performance, and training adaptations, and, recently, several studies have uncovered its potential clinical application toward treating various neuromuscular diseases and maintaining brain function. This book unifies the sum of information on how creatine affects body composition, exercise performance, and health. Because the body of data on creatine is ample and constantly growing, a book such as this is a timely and important resource for the clinician, the coach, and the sports scientist." I am not trying to be argumentive, please do not take that from me. I enjoy debates and learning experiences. If you have studies that you can point me to I would love to read them. As much as I hate to post an article that was written in a magazine I have come to trust much of the articles that have been written by Kennedy Publishing as they really cover their bases and don't write fluff. I am really very harmless and just a knowledge junkie. I know I have pissed off a few people on this board when I have called their views into question but it is never done to be spiteful and the only time I have gotten nasty is when I have been attacked first. I am one who will access pubmed to actually read the studies because I am stupid like that (I also read a lot of federal codes and bills because so much of the media picks and chooses sections instead of understanding the whole thing).
ORGANIC ANGEL · 4/26/2012
lol @ chem don't worry no offense will be taken . I too like for both sides of debates to be posted-that is why I said that I will post some stuff-I forgot that I will be watching my brothers kids(ooops) plus my own, one of which I am breastfeeding every 60-90 min. so it is gonna take some time to post the links....one is crying now-so I have to run...will update soon😉
XxMissPrissxX · 4/26/2012
Hi Fuzzy! My best friend is a sales rep at GNC. She seriously knows her stuff. She is also a body builder. I too am aiming to lose weight and build muscle. She put me on a fatburner (Lipo Rush) and i use body fortress' protein. I have one shake a day (usually after i work out) and follow a "Clean" diet. There is a lot of debate that suppliments are harmful etc. I feel that if they were harmful, they simply wouldnt be sold. I have had no ill effects and neither has my friend (shes been taking them for 3+years) also, the people at GNC are always very helpful and they know their stuff. Hope this helps!!
Sparklie · 4/29/2012
I will admit, I am not a huge fan of protein shakes mostly because of taste, and I am not credentialed in nutrition. From a few of the fitness professionals I know there advice for weight/inch loss and strength building is this... 45 minutes of cardio 4 days per week, weight lifting 2-3 days per week, a diet considting of lean proteins and dark leafy greens. Portion sizing is importaint. Idealy 4-6 meals a day.
polefairy · 5/21/2012
I am looking at this thread because I'd like to know how best to maximise my workouts too. I was working out 2/3 times a week until I got a promotion in work. Now I haven't been to the gym in a MONTH and I've only been on my pole twice that whole time. I'm just tired and low on energy a lot and I work 9am-7pm so if I go to the gym at 7.30ish I find that I am far too awake and don't sleep well that night. Finding it really hard to find a good balance now. Delighted with my new job skills but I am very tired, maybe I'm just in an adjustment phase. Any info on protein shakes or how to take creatine would be great. I need to get back into a fitness routine.. before it turns into another month of nothing. And I was really noticing results before I took this month off too, I hope it comes back fast. 🙁 Just on a side note to something written above, is Yaz banned in the US now? I take it everyday here in Ireland and I asked my doc about it and he said it's a very low dose pill and not to worry about it. If anyone has info that'd be great. Thanks x

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