smokinangel started this discussion ·
So amyxshi mentioned this combo in another post, and i want to know how on earth would you do that? It sounds amazing and I want it! Any pointers or explanations would be great!
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EVamp83 ·
I too, would LOVE to know more about this combo!!! If I remember correctly, she also mentioned that there was a video with the move in it?? Anyway, any leads would be awesome! 🥂 Needless to say, I'll be working on my rockstar spin today 😀
This sounds great look forward to seeing this combo move,i dont think ive done the rock star spin to much, but i love that spin x
I don't know what a rock star spin is would someone add a link for me. I get so confused as people call everything such different names. Thanks Cxxx
amy ·
one of my teachers, kyra (who was in uspdf east and is in the amateur comp) is the one who showed me this move and mentioned it being in a video somewhere, but i've never seen it. all i can tell you is that it's really, really hard. she actually said this was her nemesis move- she was trying to get it for a few months before it clicked for her. when you go into rockstar, you are in it only for a second. you literally throw your right leg up in the air, and as it gets high enough, you transition your bottom hand from the push-pull for rockstar into the grip for butterfly, while you unhook your left foot, throw your hips up in the air and hook your right leg on the pole above your top hand. it's a lot going on in a second and you're pushing up into the butterfly (because your right leg has to hook at the knee on teh pole ABOVE your top hand). does that make sense? it's tough to explain. when i'm in class with her again i'll see if i can get her to do it again and video it. it's a really pretty move that looks deceptively smooth and easy! i would think a good starting point for it would be working on the spinning cradle right into a butterfly while still spinning.
joni1 ·
Please someone show us what a rockstar spin is. 🤸 🤸 🤸 Even better, a vid on the rockstar spin to butterfly.
So amyxshi mentioned this combo in another post, and i want to know how on earth would you do that? It sounds amazing and I want it! Any pointers or explanations would be great! How'd I know that when I saw the topic thread in the daily message thing that you would be the one who started the thread? 😂 Just let me know when you're ready to attempt it (after enough people explain how to do it) and I'll spot ya. Just promise not to kick me in the head, anywhere else is fine, but head kicks suck.
Veena ·
Here is the rockstar spin....its right in the middle of the vid http://ver3.studioveena.com/lessons/view/173 I'm confused as to how you would get into the butterfly from that spin, my hands would be in the wrong position. 🤔
Id like to see that spin into the butterfly,are there no vids with it in? also any tutorals for the rockstar?,think i had issues when i tryed it before 😕 x
Lol freethesun, I make no promises... I won't aim for your head though 😀 Guess what we're doing Sunday!
amy ·
Here is the rockstar spin....its right in the middle of the vid http://ver3.studioveena.com/lessons/view/173 I'm confused as to how you would get into the butterfly from that spin, my hands would be in the wrong position. 🤔 veena, you have to switch your hands right when you go into the spin so that you can butterfly up.
So this is how I picture it: Briefly in rockstar spin, drop bottom hand underneath, move outside hooked leg to opposite side of pole, (can this step be left out?) apprentice up into butterfly Does that sound right? I'm having trouble apprenticing while spinning, any suggestions?
I was in class with amyxshi when Kyra taught this combination. I didn't do the moves together, lol, but it's something to work towards. I could barely get the rockstar. I'm flexible but I really need to work on positioning my top leg. Perhaps it may be easier if you do the rockstar and hold it. Once you stop spinning, then maneuver into the butterfly until you can slowly do the combo without stopping.
No way!!!! Can't wait to see this for real!
amy ·
ok, got it on film! also had maybe too much fun playing with imovie... hhaahah http://ver3.studioveena.com/lessons/view/3285 😀
Thanks so much, Amy! Wow. This looks really impressive! Similar technique as Hero to Butterfly now that I can see it. Would have to have very strong and flexible shoulders (at least, I think so)! Just doing a static Hero to Butterfly nearly put my shoulder out (strong side Hero, weak side butterfly - am now training my weak side Hero to match the strong butterfly) and spinning it would be so much more difficult. My rockstar is strong on the correct side for me to go into strong side butterfly, so I might give this a slow, careful shot when I'm not hungover and exhausted? 😛 Be careful, ladies!
amy ·
i can do a hero/apprentice to butterfly easily, and i can tell you-- i DEFINITELY can't do the rockstar/butterfly combo... when i saw kyra do it again today, i realized that all your weight is hanging off your right arm-- you are actually throwing your leg up and hooking it on your arm, not the pole-- sort of like the allegra.
She hooks her foot in the end on the pole, I thought, when she takes it out into extended butterfly, but to get up, yeah on her arm. I'd have to try it to see. I reckon you can totally do it, you're so strong! I mean a controlled flag dismount?! Last time I tried Hero to Butterfly I was doing it on spin mode for some stupid reason, so that's probably why I had trouble pulling into it. Heh. The Allegra is really hard on my leg, not the arm that's holding my entire weight up. I do hook my leg over my arm to get back up, and that takes a bit of effort... but I have a huge bruise on my thigh the size of a city from the Allegra, but my arms and shoulders are fine 🙂 Every move will be harder for some in different areas, I guess. This is such an awesome combo!
amy ·
lol i can't do ANYTHING on spin that involves being upside down 🤮 🤮 ... so props to you! 🥂 hm, i dont think that the allegra is particularly hard per se-- i mean, if you can do a one-handed spin you can hold yourself up, but i was pointing out the leg-hooking-on-the-arm thing because i didn't realize that before, and i think it makes it easier to mentally break down the trick. but i agree, it looks awesome!
I love the class' reaction the first time of just "oh my GOD! 😲 😲 "
P.S. We should cross-link this page to "first move that WOWed you" 😂
joni1 ·
i can do a hero/apprentice to butterfly easily, and i can tell you-- i DEFINITELY can't do the rockstar/butterfly combo... when i saw kyra do it again today, i realized that all your weight is hanging off your right arm-- you are actually throwing your leg up and hooking it on your arm, not the pole-- sort of like the allegra. What is a hero/apprentice amyxshi ? We actually did this rockstar to butterfly spin in our master class last week. But the instructor called it bow and arrow spin into the butterfly. It was very difficult to push up into the butterfly. Some of us were able to do it. But I felt and looked awkward. I'm gonna work on this to smooth it out.
