Reverse Grab Spin Thing & Injury?

0blackeyed0 started this discussion · 7/29/2009

Hey Guys, I tried to learn the reverse grab spin thing today, i believe thats what its called. You swing round on one arm, come in front of the pole and grab behind with the other and flow round. Anyway, ive mastered basic spins and getting strength up, i can do one handed firemans and attitudes, but my shoulder today is quite sore to rotate straight after practising, not even like the next day. 1. have I injured my shoulder or just stretched it a bit because my bodies not used to all the weight spinning on that shoulder yet? 2. I cant seem to get this move to flow, as soon as i grab with the second hand my but hits the pole and i dont go round much, how do i land! p.s. i warmed up well and cooled down gently it isnt really bad, no panicks lol. thanks very much!

13 replies

Veena · 7/30/2009
If its just sore and not painful I'm sure you'll be fine. 😎 If your still worried about it the next day talk to your DR. This spin is an advanced spin because It requires a lot of strength and good form. I would recommend working on pole climbs and other moves to help strengthen your shoulders for this spin, many ladies have injured themselves working on this spin too soon. I have placed this move under the intermediate category in my online lessons. Just because its a spin instructors teach it as a beginner move and student think they should be able to do it right away. Not true. I haven't see you try the spin so I can't tell you if your ready for it, but please be careful, shoulders are tricky things treat them well. Always hold them back and down when poling, never hang from the arm. 🌸 Hope you feel better tomorrow ☀️
SissyBuns · 7/30/2009
I had the same prblem with my butt hitting the pole when I first started trying the RG. I was told to arch my back more. It seems to be helping...well I haven't seen myself yet....but it feels like it is LOL.
Veena · 7/30/2009
Arching your back can help, but making sure your not starting off too close to the pole can help a lot. You want a hips width distance or even a tad more, if your holding up real high on the pole you'll smash into the pole. 💪
PoleDanceABCs · 7/30/2009
When I first started the RG I actually kept my feet on the floor and "scooted" backwards. I did that until I built up the strength to hold myself up with one hand while going backwards in air. I was able to get it after 3 weeks of pole dance but I got a message on my video from someone who had been pole dancing for 3 months and couldn't get it. So you'll get, just keep at it! ^_^
0blackeyed0 · 7/30/2009
Aw thanks guys, yeah i think its just a strained muscle/tendon, still stiff today but not massively painful. I do worry about my shoulders because i dislocated one once and I'm scared its going to be weak during pole dancing! Im shocked about what Veena said about it being a more advanced spin! as I do lessons, I did 6 weeks stage 1 beginner and am now half way through stage 2, we are literally about to learn RG which is why i thought best next move to learn! but it totally see (and feel haha) how its quite a jump in difficulty level! Bit of time, bit more practice, we'll get there! Thanks so much guys! Chaz x
SissyBuns · 7/30/2009
Veena, should your hand not be high up on the pole? I always tend to grab up high anyway for most spins...should I keep my "holding" hand lower for it?
SissyBuns · 7/30/2009
Right after I wrote that I put my hand up and imagined I had a pole and I see that I actually don't keep my hand very high for RG. Maybe just above my head? Is that right?
Veena · 7/30/2009
Yes, sissy lower down is right, that way your farther away from your pole. ☀️ Yeah, blackeyed the RG should NOT be taught as a beginner move. 😉
Mshell · 8/7/2009
The studio that I take lessons at actually calls this move "the dislocator" for exactly that reason. My instructor is constantly reminding me to warm up before practicing this move. I definitely haven't mastered it yet, but someone advised me to start with both hands on the pole first (from a sit-n-spin position) and then try to let go with the outside arm and bring it around behind you. Does that make any sense? Good luck! I hope your shoulder feels better!
Fleur · 8/7/2009
This is a great post, I think a lot of beginners want to do this move because, I must admit/agree, it looks so cool!!! BUT, bear in mind the reverse grab (or dislocator) is NOT a beginner spin! I would adivse you to practice the chair spin a great deal and focus on strengthening your lats (under the armpits) until you feel like you can do a chair spin practically one handed. There is a lot of torque and weight involved in the reverse grab and without proper muscle control you can seriously injure your shoulder. Please be very careful, make strength training a priority, and don't get ahead of yourself! If your chair spin doesn't feel smooth and easy, you should not be trying the reverse grab. As Veena always says: shoulders back and down ladies, back and down... Fleur
LittleC · 8/8/2009
When I first started working on the reverse grab, going into it from a chair spin was how I was able to get it. It's still kind of sketchy for me - I'm scared to get a lot of momentum going into it because I did have an unfortunate incident where I flung myself off the pole (don't want to do that again!). But if I don't get enough swing going, it just kind of peters off sadly and barely makes it around the pole once. Any ideas are welcome!
Meleania · 8/16/2009
I finally got this move down yesterday, only, when I grabbed the pole behind me with my left hand I got a huge pain in my wrist! not even the one thats been bothering me, and I dont remember how I positioned it, soo my question is, with the hand behind you is your thumb pointing up or down?
danikeen · 8/16/2009
i got this move down quite quickly which i was suprised about, but i do have strong sholders to start with, and i do my strenth training daily, but i was in club last week partying with friends and as me and my friend are getting a bit better we decided to play on the poles in the club and i did my RG and being under the influance of alcohol lol i smacked my head in the pole lol it didnt hurt but was very very funny lol obviously i just spun round and acted like i was ment to do it and none of our fans noticed lol. Hope u get it down in the end hun xxx 😀