Plastic Surgery

cbr600girl started this discussion · 5/20/2009

I am not gonna lie, I have gone under the knife. I had breast implants back in 2003. I have a son who will be 7 in a couple of months. I've decided I do not want any more children. I have been thinking of getting a tummy tuck. I want to feel comfortable in my skin and when I pole dance my skin is just so flabby in my tummy area I concentrate on trying to hide it that I look very akward in a lot of my moves. I will not let my hubby watch me dance or anything that is how uncomfortable I feel. I was just curious if any of the other mom's out there feel the way I do or if you've had any "corrections" done. I am starting to wonder if I am the only one out there who has the pouch and some extra skin.

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glitterhips · 5/20/2009
There was actually a discussion about this in chat the other night. I believe Foxy-Pink also wants to get her boobs and tummy done for the same reasons you do. Boob jobs sketch me out a little so I'd probably never get one (and I think my boobs are too big as it is!) but I'm not against them. However I would definitely get a tummy tuck if I had the money and I've never had kids! All the women in my family carry their weight in their stomach area and it's a huge problem area for me. I am self conscious around my boyfriend too even though he says he thinks I'm fine and loves me the way I look now blah blah blah. It's something I would like to do for myself anyway. I eat super healthy and do pole, weight training and cardio 4-5 days a week (not all on the same day obviously) but I think part of it is just attributed to my body type and genes and there's only so much diet and exercise I can do about it. I did used to be legitimately overweight so I did weight watchers and lost 30 lbs, so no one can accuse me of wanting a tummy tuck because I'm too lazy to do it the hard way. Im in the healthy weight range for my height but that's just where I carry my weight so I think I've done a lot in terms of eating/exercise to help the situation. I think the same goes for women who have had children, I am not a mother but I know your skin can stretch and a lot of times women have a hard time getting their pre baby flat bellies back. I think women's bodies are beautiful during and after pregnancy but if you are bothered by some extra skin and you would feel more confident if you had it removed, then by all means more power to you. Ive met a lot of women who turn their noses at plastic surgery but they either have the metabolism of a prize fighting warrior and could be a super model or have had a half dozen kids and look better than I do...so in that situation I don't know if they necessarily understand the negative impact that carrying extra weight around your tummy can have on your self esteem. OK now I've written a novel! Ive seen your videos and I think you look great for being a mom but I also think if it will make you feel better and you'll be doing it for yourself and not anyone else, if you can find a good and safe doctor you should do it.
xoxoHeatherxoxo · 5/20/2009
I agree with Glitter, if you are doing it for you then great. There is nothing wrong with a little reconstructive surgery. I've had my breasts done also and have considered maybe going back for the tummy. I take really good care of myself, eat well (I even grow my own vegies) wieght lift, hike, run you name it, however I'm 32 (cough, cough) and I've had 3 kids. I think I look really good considering, but I have stretch marks on my hips, loose skin and stretch marks on my tummy and no amount of running is keeping my butt from trying to make friends with the back of my thighs! Find yourself a really good doctor that has done lots of these surgeries! This is not like getting your breasts done, it is major surgery! I recently went with a freind to her consult and the Doctor said that most women say it is worse then haveing a baby by cesaerian, also they usually put stitches in your ab muscle to create the look of tone, which can limit the amount of ab exercise you can do after. This was one of my concerns since I do workout quite a bit. I would make a list of all the questions and concerns, and find a Doctor who you are comfortable with and is known in your area for doing good work.
lily · 5/20/2009
You are absolutely not alone! You should check out the 'Shape of a Mother' thread under the 'For Moms & Dads' forum - it's really beautiful. 🫡 I don't see any problem with plastic surgery, you're the only one who knows what those 'right' reasons are - just do it for yourself. I had breast augmentation 8 years ago now 😮 (how'd I get this old??) and LOVE the results, of all the things I've done in my life that I regret that decision is not one of them! 🙂 I do always hear that a tummy tuck is the most dangerous of plastic surgery procedures so for sure do your homework and find a great surgeon. If you go ahead with it I wish you the best! 🌸
Foxy_Rei · 5/21/2009
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bertysbooboo · 5/21/2009
Since I was 18 I've always had C - D cup boobs. I got up to 163 pounds and I'm 5'6". Now that I've lost all the weight, my ta tas don't look the same. Not quite National Geographic, but I'm not happy with the way I look now. I plan to have them either lifted or just do an implant sometime next year. I've also been pretty open about my self inflicted wounds. I carry scars that make me very self-conscious. They have procedures to fix them. Some people may look down on this as well by saying "well you shouldn't have done that to yourself in the first place". There have been many events in my life that brought me to that extreme. I was only 9 the first time I did it. I feel that chapter of my life is over and I have a constant reminder of each of the moments in my life that I was completely out of control. It can be a reminder of how far I've come, but each one has it's own terrible story of pain behind it. Imagine carrying around with you an open book of your pain for everyone to see. I want to put all those memories behind me and move forward, yet every time I look down there it is. I plan to get them fixed one day as well. It's defiantly a personal decision you have to really think through. How long have you been dancing??? If your new to this you might want to give it some time. I lost 30 lbs pole dancing and changing my diet. I don't have kids though, so I can't relate in that way. Ultimately, do what makes you happy.
lily · 5/21/2009
Regarding some of Foxy Rei's points - eeeek that would really suck to have a botched surgery 🙁 OR to end up looking totally weird and not like yourself....remember that adorable Jennifer Grey from Dirty Dancing? After her nose job she was just another pretty girl in LA trying to get a role. And oh man, have any of ya'll seen pics of Bruce Jenner (Kim Kardashian's stepdad) lately? 🙁 Freaking sad. ITA that you can't go into something like this looking for 'happiness'. If you're looking for ONLY a c-cup and fully know it won't change anything else about your life (besides your income possibly, depending on your job 😉 ) odds are you'll get your c-sized breasts and that will be that - that's how it was for me! 😀 BA's are overwhelmingly safe and successful, with tummy tucks and lipo though it seems there is more potential for disaster.....poor poor Tara Reid 🙁 Again CBR600, only YOU know the right reasons for you, don't worry about people who pass judgment. Just worry about your plastic surgeon's reputation and success rate. And LOVE yourself, and the precious little boy your tummy gave you 🌸
bertysbooboo · 5/21/2009
remember that adorable Jennifer Grey from Dirty Dancing? After her nose job she was just another pretty girl in LA trying to get a role. And oh man, have any of ya'll seen pics of Bruce Jenner (Kim Kardashian's stepdad) lately? 🙁 Freaking sad. My only concern is there are no guaranties. Jennifer Grey looks like a completely different person. I could never do ANYTHING to my face though. I have thought a lot about this subject and I feel this is the path for me. If there was a way to do it naturally I would. I wouldn't do it for anyone else either. I would only do it for myself. It's defiantly got to be about you. Make sure you consider all the non-surgical options as well.
cbr600girl · 5/21/2009
I've also been pretty open about my self inflicted wounds. I carry scars that make me very self-conscious. They have procedures to fix them. Some people may look down on this as well by saying "well you shouldn't have done that to yourself in the first place". There have been many events in my life that brought me to that extreme. I know how you feel. I was also a cutter for many many years. I am half mexican, so with darker skin I keloid very easily. I have since hidden most of my self-inflicted scars with tattoos. HAHA I just can't seem to get away with marking my body in some ways. I am scared of scars from a tummy tuck. With my BA they did the implants through my belly button so there are no scars. I am not sure how the scars will look with a tummy tuck on me. That is definately a down fall for me. It's defiantly a personal decision you have to really think through. How long have you been dancing??? If your new to this you might want to give it some time. I lost 30 lbs pole dancing and changing my diet. I don't have kids though, so I can't relate in that way. Ultimately, do what makes you happy. I know how you feel. I was also a cutter for many many years. I am half mexican, so with darker skin I keloid very easily. I have since hidden most of my self-inflicted scars with tattoos. HAHA I just can't seem to get away with marking my body in some ways. I am scared of scars from a tummy tuck. With my BA they did the implants through my belly button so there are no scars. I am not sure how the scars will look with a tummy tuck on me. That is definately a down fall for me. I've been dancing for almost 2 months. It's not really that I need to lose weight, its that I can't get the lose skin to ever firm up! It doesn't matter if I lose weight or do 100 crunches a day, nothing will work. Its a matter of I have too much skin now. I am only doing it for myself. I could care a less what society thinks, it's what I think that matters! Thanks!
lily · 5/21/2009
remember that adorable Jennifer Grey from Dirty Dancing? After her nose job she was just another pretty girl in LA trying to get a role. And oh man, have any of ya'll seen pics of Bruce Jenner (Kim Kardashian's stepdad) lately? 🙁 Freaking sad. My only concern is there are no guaranties. Jennifer Grey looks like a completely different person. I could never do ANYTHING to my face though. I have thought a lot about this subject and I feel this is the path for me. If there was a way to do it naturally I would. I wouldn't do it for anyone else either. I would only do it for myself. It's defiantly got to be about you. Make sure you consider all the non-surgical options as well. She really does, and she had so much character and uniqueness before! When I was younger I always hated my nose and thought I'd get it tweaked one day....but I was always afraid of messing with my face too, especially when you see people like Jennifer Grey. Since I hit 30 things changed and it's like I grew into my nose or something, I'm so glad I never did anything!
Veena · 5/21/2009
Ok nobody stone me! I am a firm believer in exercise and diet. Its the hardest, slowest way, BUT its safe and will extend your life and make your daily tasks easier and more enjoyable. I can totally understand the boob job thing, after nursing 4 babies...ugh, they are little and saggy, I didn't even know that was possible. 🤔 anyway, I'm glad I don't have implants now though. When I was breast feeding and poling a few months back, my boobs did get in the way. I'm very glad they have deflated back down to their AA size. Too bad clothes don't fit me right, I could use some boobs for that! Now back to the exercise, you can see amazing results with proper diet and exercise...I'm not saying do a fad "diet", stay away from these, they tend to leave out important food groups. Everyone is always their worst critic. Your stomach might never be like it was before baby, BUT with proper training you can learn how to hold it in and make it look good when you want to...thats what I do! Models don't look like models all the time either, there are tricks. I'm always shocked to see how I look on my vids, cuz thats not what I look like during the day. 😲 Unless others are around... SUCK IT IN VEENA, SUCK IT IN hehe I'm a fit girl with a pooch...oh well, this body gave life to 4 babies....we give life!!! Abs are heavily used in pole dance and I cringe at the thought of what limitations a tummy tuck might leave you with. It can take a long time for extra skin to go away, but once a woman looses fat around the midsection they tend to realize it wasn't all just skin, it was also fat. Most Woman tend to hold body weight around the middle, even the naturally thin. Tummy fat is usually, not always, but usually the LAST to disappear. 🙄 When I get a chance I might just have to make a video showing the tricks I've taught myself to use when taking pictures or videos. As I sit here and type my stomach is hanging out over my pants! lol. Your a beautiful woman and I'm glad you are part of the studio veena family....we all care about each other, that means you too girly!!!!! 🌸Give this some good long thought. *hugs*
FridaSiren · 5/21/2009
thats funny! me too! when i was a kid i had the super thick glasses and braces. (an even uglier than betty ugly betty) because of sports and stuff when i was 12 i got my first pair of contacts and i thought, wow, one less thing for everyone to make fun of! for the first time in my life i could actually see my face. so i look in the mirror and omg my nose is enormous! eventually the braces came off to reveal a beautiful smile but all through my teens i was obsessed with my nose and the possibility of having surgery to make it smaller or at least to take out the lump in the middle. but as i got older i too grew into it. in certain angles i can be quite beautiful in others down right ugly. but it´s my nose. it makes me unique. i´d rather be different and unforgettable than to just look like everybody else. beauty is about self confidence. if you believe your beautiful most others will too. and the ones that don´t don´t matter anyway. you can´t please everyone! anyway i think that plastic surgery is a personal decision, if you´ve exhausted all other possbilities and you really feel that this will make you happy than by all means go for it! but like the other girls said, make sure it´s for yourself and not for anyone else! 🌸 frida 🌸
RoxyPink · 5/21/2009
Ok, well I know I was mentioned in this thread by Glitter...🙂 and yes I am pro plastic! I have had two babies and nursed two babies(12-18mths each). With each of my pregnancies I gained and then lost 90+ pounds. My breasts went from a small 36C to a very full 38F and then back to a small 36C...now in a bra they look pretty good...but out of one...they are as flat as can be. I can almost hold a pop can underneath my breast...Now there isn't a single person on here who can honestly tell me that will change with diet and exercise...and besides I've already lost the weight...YOU CAN NOT tighten loosened skin with diet and exercise!! Period! The same goes with my belly. I had a c-section with my first and there is the nice little "lip" where my scar is...my belly is flat and I have muscle definition...but once again that will not tighten the skin! I am sorry if I am coming across bitchy...but I get tired of being told that I'm wrong from people who don't have the same genetics, who've never had kids and who never gained/lost a ton of weight and most importantly don't have to deal with these issues!! You don't know the shoes that I'm in...the irritation that is caused by loose skin...and the embarassment of having boobs that look like the belong on an 80 year old!! Now I don't think it's okay to have ps for every little tiny thing that people think needs fixed. I would never change anything on my face!! The two things for me are my boobs and lower belly...that's it!! And I never said that I couldn't live with out getting it done....I want to get it done....for me! Okay...I'm done...just needed to get that frustration off of my chest! 😀
RoxyPink · 5/21/2009
Oh yeah...and on a funny note...I was working out the other night (in a sports bra) and my oldest (5 yrs old son) says to me...."mommy, your boobies are getting to small and flat!" I about died and my husband couldn't stop laughing!! 😀
amcut · 5/21/2009
HEEEEEEEEEEE. Cute. Kids are so cute. I'd still beat him to death, but so cute! I'm pro plastic surgery, but pro positive body image first. Ridiculous images of perfection get on my nerves. I think plastic surgery is one of those things that makes ridiculous body images so prominent! That and photoshop. I think we should get around to enjoying ourselves as we should be - kids and skin and boobs a flappin'. Sure, if you want a new set.. go ahead. But I REFUSE to feel bad about myself just because you couldn't love your knockers. Or whatever else women change because they think it's way nast- and leave other women to wonder if she should feel inadequate because she's in the same situation. I think that's important- to allow no one to change your own image of yourself. And I think waaaay too many women want new parts because of someone else's opinion on their worth.
cbr600girl · 5/21/2009
OK so there have been some mixed feelings and opinions, which are greatly appreciated. I gained 70 pounds when I was pregnant. You know it's bad when your doctor tells you, you are gaining too much pregnancy weight for one baby. Gaining 10 pounds a month was bad. I lost it all! Then I gained 15 pounds when my Dad died in a motorcycle accident. I am eating right and exercising. I am not trying to take the easy way out. It's not like I am tryi8ng to get thinner. I simply want to lose the extra lose skin! I hate doing floor moves on my hands and knees and my stomach is hanging low and wobbling around! 😂 I agree with roxy, you absolutely cannot tighten extra lose skin. It has nowhere to go. I am not trying to change my face at all. I am simply trying to fix the belly situation so I can enjoy the way I look. Thanks to everyone for the support! P.S. I am gonna post a pic this weekend so then maybe you will understand the lose skin situation.
RoxyPink · 5/21/2009
You know CBR...I actually thought about posting pictures too...
Veena · 5/21/2009
You cannot tighten loose skin BUT.... what I'm saying IS... it might not be just loose skin. I was hell bent on saying that I had all this loose skin, and was doomed. I mean I'm not a big person so I figured thats what it had to be! I still have some loose skin, BUT because I have lost body fat around my middle, and have learned to hold my abs in a way that makes it tight, it looks almost normal (until I bend over, then its all wrinkles and rolls.) 😂 I do believe its possible for skins elasticity to recover to some degree. I was really stretch out with my 3rd baby, it took over a year for me to look like I did 5 months after Henry #4. It can take years for skin to go back, and by go back I don't mean to the original pre baby, but I'm saying I know first hand the skin can get better!! 🥂 I would hate for you to spend a ton of money on a procedure when it might only be a matter of time. Stress like losing your father is huge...just give yourself more time. 🌸
Foxy_Rei · 5/21/2009
I already gave my 2 cents but I wanted to put in a big ol' AMEN! and DITTO! to what Veena said - all of it.
Rouge_LAmour · 5/22/2009
to cut or not, what a dilemma. I'm not the tiniest, yet I'm lucky to have finally got over my body image. Being late 30's and having a husband who thinks I'm beautiful no matter what size I am has made a huge difference. I've yoyo'd form 50kg - 120kg, at 5'9 that's going from skeletal Angelina to big Kirtsy Alley. There are a couple of things I'd happily change, but they don't bug me, and they are.... If my boobs get over an F cup, then I go on the waiting list for a reduction. And before you all go, no that's fat gain, every time I shrink, I gain cup size and it stays, already at an E. Ergo no running for me! I'd also love them to be perky, but no, they can show me where my toes are when I stand up. and I can see what a facelift would do, but there's no way that's ever happening. Not when I still get ID'd for alcohol (at nearly 38 I'm pretty happy about that! Esp when legal age is 18) However, these aren't important things. I also have a puku*, which like Veena, sticks out over my yoga pants, which is bad as my parents both have / had CVD. Pole has helped me lose weight (20kg to date over 18 months), and I totally agree with Veena that slow and steady via good nutrition and exercise is the way to go. Surgery is the quick option, but does it address bad habits?? Fix that nasty sugar addiction? Address the body image psychological issues you actually need to address? Our society is addicted to the quick fix, but that doesn't break habits. Surgery has it's place, but ensure you've done everything else you can first. however, as I'm now working at Ministry of Health, the fat over the lower abs is there to protect your uterus and other reproductive organs. Therefore, if it doesn't shift, there's a deep-seated biological reason for this! and if anyone wants any boob flesh, I have far more than I need, to spare!!! *tummy. the bit that hangs over, the muffin top etc. Maori for tummy. Gotta get te reo into the site somehow!
clarita_l · 5/22/2009
All the women in my family carry their weight in their stomach area and it's a huge problem area for me. I am self conscious around my boyfriend too even though he says he thinks I'm fine and loves me the way I look now blah blah blah. . Hey glitter, I know exactly what you mean, except its my dads side, he is a circuit training instructor and eats very little but has always had a tummy. My mam even offered that if I got real skinny and still had a tummy after I was 30 that she would pay for the surgery herself as it seemed so unfair. I'm overweight now but when I'm thinner I still look about 3 months pregnant, I have no bum hold all my weight around my stomach! its awful, I'm such an apple shape and I knwo what you mean about affecting pole moves, alot of moves seem to require balencing of the body and its hard to do this when your weight is all centred, I need to wear leg weights and alot of the time my tummy prevents me from bending over the way I should and I feel I will never get the cross knee release! I have saggy skin and stretch marks on my tummy and I've never had a baby! However you ahve to think about the plus side. my legs are lovely and I wouldnt change them ever! Glitter you have a lovely face and I always say I can loose weight and have a more beautiful body but people who aren't so lucky to have a good face can never change that. I used to get so down on myself then one day in the car my dad said, "wow, imagine how unhappy you would be if you were ugly!" I'm not being nasty, It just helps sometimes to focus on the best bits! I still fatasize about the flat tummy though...
RoxyPink · 5/22/2009
Ok so I think that there is some misunderstanding on here...I know for me I am confident in my body even though there are two things that I will be changing. I would not ball up and cry day in and day out if I never had it done! I am more confident now in my body then I ever have been. I don't look in the mirror and go "gross"!! The easy way out?!?!?!? WHAT?? This has nothing to do with weight loss!!!! I don't view plastic surgery as a means to weight loss! You mean to tell me that if your boobs were so diflated and hung so low that it caused irritation on your ribs to the point where it hurt to wear a bra and the doctor said that the only thing to help that is to get a lift....you wouldn't??? That dosen't sound anything like weight loss to me! As far as my belly goes....the lower skin is so stretched out that I have very little sensation in it...and I can't tell you how many times it has gotten caught in my pants zipper!!!!! That shit hurts! I repeat..this has NOTHING to do with weight loss!!! There is no slow and easy diet and exercise that is going to help this! I agree when it comes to loosing weight, diet and exercise is definitly the right way to do it! I'm sorry if I am coming across as bitchy or rude...but everyone is different and you can't truly & totally know what it is like to be in someone elses shoes!
bertysbooboo · 5/22/2009
I'm sorry if I am coming across as bitchy or rude...but everyone is different and you can't truly & totally know what it is like to be in someone elses shoes! I was glad to hear another side of the debate. Every ones opinion matters and having different opions gives others the opportunity to took at the situation from all sides.
staceyanne28 · 5/22/2009
Amen, Roxy-Pink! You took the words right outta my mouth 🙂
clarita_l · 5/22/2009
I can fully understand that there are times when surgery is the best option and can greatly improve an individuals life! I say if go for it, moreso if you are having irritation and a doctor has recommended it. cx
Toccara · 6/2/2009
Girl I am seriously considering a tummy tuck as well. my babies were both over 9lbs and im only 5ft tall 😲 , they stretched my skin so bad that it seriously is NOT going back to normal. I also dont have much sensation in it either. It looks disgusting. Its all extra skin too, if I could get it cut away it would take prob 2 inches off my waist, at least! 😲 So from someone who knows exactly what you are feeling, id say do what is goin to make you feel less conscious about it. Im not at all embarassed about my stretch marks or anything, but I also KNOW that the skin is NOT ever gonna be even close to what it was, regardless of how much i work my core, it simply has lost all elasticity, like a 5 yo scrunchie. To have a "butt" in the front of my body is not hot! So Im choosing to get rid of it! 😉

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