Dancing Paws started this discussion ·
Does anyone have the brass and ss xperts? If so, have you had ANY problems with them? I keep going back and forth on whether I should get one of each.
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I dont think they are out yet...have u looked into platinum stages poles? they have all brass and stainless steel poles, and different types, permanent, semi permenent, removable one piece, removable multi piece, etc etc
X pole US just got the brass and SS in and are taking orders. I was hoping that some foreign girls would have experience with them. I have heard way too many horror stories about platinum stages, so I won't even try them.
azblanco ·
I'm glad I didn't order the chrome xpole yet because i just found out about the brass xpole today . I called xpole today, and the lady told me x-pole US hasn't set a price yet for the brass poles... but she did say they only come in 45mm x-pert and they are taking pre-orders now... here is the number if you wanted to put your name down, if you live in the US 1-888-976-5387... She took my name,number, and email. She told me someone would get back with me when they know a price and call me then and if I still wanted to purchase they can take the info over the phone =D
Ive been to alot of studios and never had a problem with platinum stages. I actually really love them alot because of the easy spin mechanism. You just pull out the pin, and bam, its on spin mode. U dont have to go down, and unscrew it or anything. I also prefer stainless steel over chrome. I never tried brass until last week when i got my platinum stages, but its definitely my favorite because i sweat alot. Im surprised more studios dont have them!! The thing is though, even if xpole sells brass and stainless steel, is it going to be real? I dont think so, its coming from china. It will probably be some sort of plating. I trust platinum stages because they are made in the USA and have to go thru testing b4 they are sold. I didnt know until recently about the xpoles being from china, and containing lead. If toys with lead are recalled because they are dangerous, whats up with the poles? Obviously there is some sort of danger to them.
The Aussie girls said brass is the best one yet. I agree too as I've tried brass 50mm and 45mm in Toronto and loveeeee it! Brass is the best grippy metal for me. Not too slippery like SS but not too grippy like TG. Just right. A month ago, Lindsey told me brass will be available in 45mm x-pert only and price is $429.99. *crosses fingers it's lower now* $$$$$$ but IMO it's worth it b/c their chrome now is blech compared the original chrome. X-Pole chrome is less slippery than stainless steel. I'm gonna keep both brass 45mm and original chrome 50mm.
They told me $429.99 for brass and $379.99 for SS. I may hold off until I 1) hear more about them from other people and 2) get money.
Brass is amazing, but my xjoint was faulty on it. still waiting on replacement part :(
I don't care for brass because of the upkeep required...they begin to oxidize immediately and even before you can see it there is a tarnish build up. You have to polish them regularly with a brass cleaner or they lose their grip. I like the ss poles from Pole danzer if anyone doesn't like chrome...they grip far better than either the PS ss or the LM ss. Plus PS has chrome coated slide covers and ceiling domes that peel off. Additionally the plastic slide cover has sharp edges and I saw someone slice her toe open on the bottom of it. PS one piece stainless have a different grip then their multi-piece. The multipiece doesn't grip the same at all when I've tried it.
Wy have I never heard of pole danzer?
Are the pole danzer poles removable (without screwing stuff in the ceiling) and really sturdy. Also,a re they easy to put up and take down?
PoleDanzer is a small company. They are great for permanently mounted poles. Great customer service too. They've been around for years too.
I see they have a non-permanent pole, but I am wondering how sturdy it is. The top mount doesn't look like it covers much of a surface area.
No...the top is 4" x 4". It works better if you place it against a board between the pole and the ceiling in order to spread the weight load so that it doesn't leave an imprint in the ceiling. Also without a dome, if it starts to slide, there is nothing to "catch" - it just slides across. But if you get the ceiling adaptor you have a semi-permanent pole that locks in place and won't fall over and you can still take it down when you need to but the adaptor stays up there. There is no slide cover for the adjuster rod on the multi-height pole either. The owners are very helpful and friendly and Robert is very knowlegable about trouble shooting various ceiling and room problems to adapt poles in unique situations. I've had their poles in my other studio because of the steel joists we had to deal with mounting to. He helped a lot.
If we rent a house in the future, I may get one of those to try. I will not try platinum stages, and the x joints are such a pain. I would love to have a pne piece pole.
I will still get myself a brass pole one of these days. I just love them. One of the private clubs around here has one and I'm sure it wasn't polished in about 4 years before I started going there and I still had the best grip on it of my life. The chrome x-poles are pretty grippy for me most of the time but I still want a brass. But it will have to wait because my next pole will be a stage pole.
Hsiang ·
I just sold my chrome xpole due to nickle allergies and ordered a 45mm stainless today..yay! I've also been using 50mm Platinum Stage but I'm not sure if it'll be exactly the same. I will let you guys know how it is :)
Hsiang ·
So I got my stainless steel xpert and finally got a chance to pole on it last night. Definitely harder to pole on with dry skin. I have to be warm with some type of moisture on my skin. My hands get a good grip on it since they sweat, but my legs/arms/etc. don't stick very well if I haven't warmed up or put on lotion a few hours before. Well atleast they make various grip aids to help this..or it just takes some practice and it'll make ya stronger ;)
I always find that ITAC works better for me on SS poles though I have not yet tried the XPert SS.
EvaRut ·
I now use ss and chrome equally and I like the ss better. Here's my comparison of chrome and ss from my experience. SS is better for hand grip but not as good for gripping with other body parts since my skin is very often dry. BUT whenever I have gripping problems on the ss wether its hand or leg gripping issues I out on itac and problem solved. Chrome is awful for my hand grip. I need to have to clean the pole all the time, wash my hands and no grip aid lasts me for more then 5 minutes. Itac makes my hands slippery as well as other grip aids I have tried. Tite grip has helped me but I still have problems. The good thing about chrome is that I have very good grip with other body parts. But when I cant grip with my hands it's just not that fun.
EvaRut ·
Haha oops I see now that I should have read better. Haven't tried brass and the ss that I use isn't from xpole either. But I can see that you have similar experience with the grip on ss. :)
I used to dance on a ss and had SO many grip issues- it was extremely frustrating. As you know- I just got my brass and did have some grip issues initially. The problem is completely solved now that I make sure there is a heater on in my pole room about ten minutes before I go in there. Brass has AMAZING grip!! I love it so much! No matter how much I would warm up my old ss the grip was still extremely slippery. Go brass- it rocks!!
The people at PS cited "quality control" issues with X Pole. I never had that, though I was allergic to the chrome, sadly. I loved everything about my chrome pole and all studios I've ever been to use them. Too bad it made me break out crazily. PS, on the other hand, sent me a horribly defective pole (quality control...hmm). I think it's alarmist to say that X Poles contain toxins without having any evidence other than that they are from China. Normally these toxins are found in PAINT, and poles are metal, not painted. I got my SS Xpert last week and I hate it. HATE it with a passion. I've almost killed myself twice on it. I've fallen out of two or three body spirals. I've been dancing for over a year and used SS polished finish, chrome finish, X Pole's gold finish, and I use brass poles at work, which above all are the best I've ever used. I constantly have to apply grip aid to it and it's weird matte finish. I hope I can sell this thing sometime soon and get something else...even if I do have to settle for a PS pole or something I'm allergic to. Who knows. Why can't I find something that works for me? :'(
Is it slipperier than a lilmynx SS? I used to feel like I was going to fly off of those.
And I am sorry you are having such a frustrating time. I feel you.
