Moves you dont like?
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LOL, i do want to state that my feelings are not hurt. but when i started following this thread a couple weeks ago, my first thought was "wow, a LOT of people are going to hate my upcoming performance!" LOL. Batwing, side climb, chair spin, remi layback, jade split, knee hold, etc. they're all in there. i'm not hurt, but i can definitely see what PlatinumAni means. its a weird feeling to be so proud of my performance, (which was two days ago) and also knowing that most of my moves are thought to be ugly by so many people, LOL. it definitely won't stop me from doing them, some of these are my all time fav moves!
I never meant it to be sort of demeaning. But more " have you not learned any moves and had your pole experience suffer" like not be strong enough to do a different move.. It turned into sharing and so forth.. The deal is not everyone will like everything, but just a way to be fun
Serzi ·
I find that most moves that I can do are among everyone's least fav's. lol I'm not offended but, yeah, I can see how this thread can be demotivational to newbies. Still, I find some of the moves listed on here very surprising to me. Like, I used to think everybody worshipped moves like the Remi-drop, Iron X, Spatchcock, etc. It's kinda refreshing to see that we all have such different tastes. :)
PlatinumAni and pokeyd, Your comments on this discussion are excellent! I do think this is an interesting thread still, but it can also be seen from the point of view you just gave. The problem may actually be that many of us have been around for a while and seen each other posts here and there and understood that these people would never say anything to hurt anyone so we just go on with our comments not being aware of the fact that there are probably a lot of newbies reading this and taking it the wrong way. Personally I would never judge a performance from the actual moves the dancer chooses to include because it's all about taste and what is possible to fit together and so on. Just wanted to say that :)
Please don't think I am upset by this thread. I know it didn't come from a mean place. (This time or the other 2 I have seen) However, it does sour some people or make them question themselves. A new poler's confidence can be quite fragile and I would hate to discourage someone from showing off their stuff and possibly getting the feedback they need! Anyway I just wanted to give another perspective.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't like moves I can't do yet. All frustration. Though, I was negative about one move and I've re-read it and I just want to smack myself, it sounded so horrible and rude and I didn't mean it at all the way it sounded. I basically compared it to being a "stripper" move, and I thought that sounded as if I was attacking strippers. I have no issues with strippers whatsoever. I'm quite envious of them. So anyone here who does that for a living I do sincerely apologize. I just don't like the Standing V, or any other name attached to it. I've seen too many people just go far too vulgar with it and it makes me cringe.
luvlee ·
I saw side climb mentioned in here as well, but I know the side climb I do is awful. I am not even a fan. Poyked did it in her performance and it was smooth, pointed, and graceful!!!!!!! Not sure how she did it, but if I were going to side climb at all, I would use her video as a reference. It was beautifu.
Veena ·
I do think a thread like this could get ugly, but I feel we've done a good job keeping it friendly. It's allowing others insight into how they feel about or see moves, opening up conversation about it. I think over all it's been good conversation. I know I've learned from it. My style has been called old fashion... I guess, meaning I don't always bust out all the newest pole work out there? But honestly, I'm happy to represent the "old fashion", "basic" pole dancer. 😀 New pole dancers, never forget, basic's are the foundation of beautiful dance!!!!!
luvlee ·
Not everyone is going to like everything in every sport. I think we are all adult enough here not to get our feelings hurt. It is not personal. Also, I have to say that you may not like a move then see it done differently or just very gracefully and be like woah! That can be done nicely. I have always felt weird doing the V Teddy and wrist seat. I have a very open straddle. I don't care. I have worked for it. I think my open Teddy is graceful. I may be the onlt one that thinks it looks graceful, but I don't care. Lol. You can not please everyone ever. I agree with Veena. I am an older school poler. I am working on flexibility because I love the new contortion moves, but they are not moves everyone can just do without a very bendy back.
Angie La ·
Oh so THAT'S what it's called now...smh. Veena I just thought it was called creative, emotive, and authentic. I need to keep up, too, I guess. Interesting but I have not really learned very many "new" moves in the last 5 months or so...but I have found a new me within e moves I do know. I guess this is another topic--I'm sorry, I just had to comment on that. Will you come to SC and teach an "old fashion" workshop? I need to see how that's done in person bc I think it's just plain AWESOME! :-*
Angie La ·
And that played out iron-x took me almost a year to finally say I can do one that is passable. Maybe I am old fashioned, too ;)
Angie La ·
And that played out iron-x took me almost a year to finally say I can do one that is passable. Maybe I am old fashioned, too ;)
JelliCrew: Hehe, but I'll beat you on that old-fashionedness since I haven't even started yet :). I guess that if it only took you a year to learn properly then you're rather fast after all! Actually now after having listed a row of moves I do feel like taking a couple of them and work on them instead of avoiding. And I think that was suggested as a challenge somewhere above.
Angie La ·
ha! I don't know really how "proper" it is... But that took me longer to learn, compared to the 6 months to just do the handspring and cartwheel stuff. There are moves I am not a fan of doing but I think there are just certain dancers that can make anything look amazing... It's like they poop glitter. Even the "mess ups" look so much less like hiccups when it is handled with a certain kind of magic. It's doesn't matter what we do, it matters more about how we feel about what we do. If we don't like it, it will show.
I like side climb! Done well, it looks very pretty, especially if you transition out of it well. It just HURTS. I've skinned myself twice.
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Angie La ·
Oh and just to clarify, sorry. I didn't mean to make it sound like I could do that after a year of staring pole dancing! It took me a that long of practicing those things to actually get it. I am no pole prodigy, by any stretch, lol. This has been an interesting discussion. I haven't read them all but it seems there are many of the same moves that people do not seem to like for whatever reason. There are a few moves that I think look like great photo shots, but sometimes when they are put into a dance, it looks a bit awkward getting in an out. Not to take away at all how long it took to learn that move, but I find some of them to be more trick-like than dance-like. Maybe the old fashioned style is more dance oriented and less trick-based...?
The wrist seat straddle, I refuse to teach it because I've seen far to much...er...slippage in the crotch area of the shorts, even when the pole is placed more on the glute!! Also not a fan of the Genie.
luvlee ·
There is a version of the wrist seat I do where you straighten the leg on top of your hand to be straight with the pole then bend the other down and point toes. I will do it in my next video.
Yup! That's the one I teach instead!
Im not a newbie anymore, but this thread is actually making me feel good! There's a lot of moves on here,like side climb and such, that I eally adore, and I dont feel discuaged by others not liking the move. Actually, this whole thread, has got me thinking.There's quite some moves out there, that either I simply dont like, or just does not speak to me. However, I've always felt a need to learn everything and whenever the time comes to learn a move,I dont feel so passionate about, I dont look forward to practice. I think I should let myself choose more. Unless its an important transition move and I dislike it, Im gonna move on to the next one, from now on! :D
korinne ·
@JelliCrew- I believe a fair number of polers have actually pooped glitter at one point or another! With the amount of glitter that goes into some routines/costumes... It gets everywhere. I do know someone who has admitted to it... :P
i detest the car layback..but i love one leg inverted crux which to me looks like an upside version of car or maybe that just me lifting my pelvis higher than normal cause it makes me feel like a bird… I also don't care for teddy much but yogini is one of my favorite moves..not that i don't like the way any of these look they just aren't fun for me to do…yet.
I think I've always been drawn to big pretty moves... and then neglect the necessary intermediate transition type moves. Also... I know it's a great thing & everyone does it ad infinitum, but the brass monkey... I just ... it does not appeal to me. : )
lately I have been hating on the brass monkey too! haha! maybe it's because I'm having such a hard time getting it. but the other day , I was thinking, God! that moves doesn't even look pretty! it just looks stupid. stupid brass monkey. but I bet when I get it I will think its the most gorgeous move ever. haha!
