Maintianing Spin on spin pole
Monicasaerialadventures started this discussion ·
I am doing a combo and not matter what I can't maintain the spin on spin pole during this combo, any tips?
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Monicasaerialadventures started this discussion ·
I am doing a combo and not matter what I can't maintain the spin on spin pole during this combo, any tips?
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What is the combo?
climb invert to figure head to shoulder mount to cupid to inside leg hang to batwing
Do you drastically start to slow down at any specific point during this combo? Where? The best would be if you could upload a video to show us!
I slow down drastically in mid shouldermount
Can you try a spinning climb? Where you whip your outside leg from outside to the pole and use the weight of your leg to spin?
Ok, you're probably giving the pole some kind of push which slows you down. Do you invert with bent legs or straight?
I was referring to the shouldermount, are your legs bent or straight when you're doing it?
Usually bent, but I have tried both ways and it still slows down
straight legs arnt that pretty
Any time your body is away from the pole you are going to slow down, this is simple physics. Many of the moves you have listed move your body away from the pole. On top of that if these moves are not spot on perfect where you are using momentum to get into them you are disrupting the energy in the pole. If you create any sort of wobble you are taking the perfect concentric spin that the pole is used to. If you notice in most performances polers do not shoulder mount aerially, they will typically use the mount that you would use for a spinning chopper.
It may help that when you are going from the figurehead to SM, really make use of the momentum your legs get when the drop downwards. Then you may not have to pull as hard to get all the way up and your pole will perhaps not slow down as much. I'm not sure this will help you enough to maintain the spin all the way to the batwing. Or, skip the shoulder mount. I guess it's the batwing you want to show off most? Instead of shoulder mounting, pull your body in to the pole after the figurehead, and grab it in an ordinary inverting grip (baseball grip). From there it should be easier to invert into an inside leg hang without loosing a lot of momentum.
Hey this is perfect! I need tips on slowing down when doing combos :) I know if you get away you wil slow down... I'm doing climb invert, climh over foot, twisted ballerina, and not sure what else.... What is the move that looks like a side climb, but they fish their arm across and grab their ankle to really get to spinning? Perhaps that would throw some spin back in after your shoulder mount? Shoulder mount..to brass monkey.. Move arm up to belly and slowly slower...bring across arm to get into spin Sorry to partially high jack this thread
Serzi ·
I agree w/ everyone here, SM is weighing you down due to the center of gravity changing. However, you can bring the momentum back up (there will be a brief stutter or slow-down) in a SM like that but you have to straight-edge your legs. It can be extremely pretty when done well, but you may have to sacrifice some speed and angles to do the tweaking. :)
Serzi ·
Cupid after SM could be killing the momentum too.
Just one thing about bringing the legs/body in closer to the pole to decrease the radius: Yes, it will speed you up (due to laws of physics), but normally it's only temporarily. Once you come out and increase the radius you'll spin as slow again as you did before you came in close. Basically no new energy will be added to the system (=you and the pole) by just changing the radius. To bring in more energy you can for example (when possible) sweep or swing a leg. It's not a bad idea to use moves in which you're close to the pole at the end of the spinning sequence to maintain the spin for a little longer when you are about to run out of momentum :).
Serzi ·
^----Good to know. I suck at physics. Nice to see it's possible for somebody to explain it w/out totally losing me. Thank you. :)
