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was wondering if anyone could give me tips on how to get into and hold the jacknife. can't flick up into it yet, so wuld have to be from extended butterfly/butterfly or however els eyou can get into it from an invert or hold. saw a couple ladies try it in class today and really wanted to try it, but not really too sure about it. any tips would be very much appreciated! thnx ! 🥂 🌸
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seems like this topic never gets a response, but will try again anyway. just wondering if anyone knows of any vids or forums where i can get some help w jacknifing off the pole ( not kicking up into it) from a butterfly or whatever. saw it done at class but still not totally sure of the exact steps to do itright. ANY help would be appreciated.
amy ·
hm, i've only ever done this from a cartwheel handspring but i never go right into it-- i usually start in ayesha (just bring your other leg forward), ext butterfly (again, move the other leg forward) or a straight edge (fold at the waist).... are you looking for a transition into it or something else?
I can't cartwheel or handspring whatsoever. I don't quite yet have the strength, and I super-definitely don't yet have the balance. So I always work on split grips from the top down, going into a split grip straightedge from a standard invert, then drop it to one side into jacknife, then swing one leg around into an aysha. It's not super pretty yet, but it's helping me find the balance point for my SG aysha and split grip. Which will in turn help with the handspring. But I am a weird freak like SissyBuns who got SG aysha before elbow or forearm grip, neither of which I can do yet, literally at all. But, I've always had a knack for the flag and its varieties, so I'm working on my flag invert because I know that grip will get me up and over in basically a forearm grip. For me, learning a new move that really challenges me is about transitioning into and out of it in ways which most take advantage of my personal strengths, then modify the move to make that strength more well-rounded and add new components to it. For example, when I learned SM the standard double cup grip was easiest and took advantage of my strong biceps. But then once I learned that I started working on grip variations, and my SM is better overall because of the new control I learned from each new grip and thus using different muscle groups to execute the same move. That said, if you can't do aysha or straightedge, think about the horrifying backwards fall that could result out of trying a jacknife before you're ready and at least use a spotter and a mat or at most reconsider and spend a while working up to it. Of everything I can do in split grip, jacknife is probably the one I'm still least comfortable with, and I work on my split grip literally every heavy practice. (which has only been a little over a month, but still) One thing is for sure, I've never done it from a butterfly, but I'm definitely going to give that a try now.
wel thanks! ok as far as split grips i learned sg aysha before forearm grip , but than started doing forearm grip all the time and now don't feel comfortable w Sg aysha anymore (thats what i get for neglecting it) but i fel very comfortable w sg for butterfly, ext butter, ceiling stand ect i can cw and hs into butterfly and than into aysha, but can't just flip right up. ok so will start working on getting re-aquianted w the sg aysha and than ask for a spotter when that feels natrual again. i really don't think strength is going to be an issue, but balance worries me..well thanks for the help! i appreciate it. 🌸
Just following on from what the ladies have said (and assuming you're talking about a jacknife with a sg), try doing it from an extended butterfly. Bring your leg thats hanging behind you (i.e the one thats off the pole) back towards the pole on the same side of it as the leg that is hooked on the pole, and then slide them down slowly into the jacknife position (you'll need to bring your hips up and in closer to the pole to do this). Do it SLOWLY and preferably with a crash mat! I know a girl in class that can do this even though she cant do much of anything in sg normally, it can be a bit messy looking initially but may be what you're after.
thank you, i think i am going to try it from an ext butterfly. maybe at class this week so can get a spotter. have never used one and have been poling 2 yrs! i am very eager to get it, but i know when to say no so will ease into it and see how i feel. balance would be more of the issue. is there anything i should know to never or always do? 🤔
Oh just had a thought, make sure when you're doing your extended butterfly that your torso is parallel to the pole, not wonky with your head to the side (as most beginners often do). You'll find that if your body is not aligned properly and your head off kilter, you won't be able to get the balance to bring in the leg for the jacknife (chances are you'll find your feet will just drop to the floor)
well thank you for all your help 😀 i will probably try this sat at class, but will see what my body is up for. hopefully will nail it sat. but if not, soon. 💣
