Monicasaerialadventures started this discussion ·
So I am wondering if anyone else finds the flag invert very painful to work on due to large boobs? My hand always gets in the way of my boobs :( I want it so bad, but I can't take the pain
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Yep happens to me why 3 yrs poling & I still can't flag :(
I have small boobs but even I manage to dig my nails into my chest doing this move. It is getting better since I am stronger but when I was relying on any poc I could find it tore my boob up. Now just a red mark that quickly fades. :)
Ajrt2118 ·
is this kind of like the western flag? I think I have a pic of me working n it in my profile. Can't figure out how to add a pic here from my iPad. But I have quite large boobs. Actually doesnt hurt them at all. Lol maybe I use them as cushion.
mizzli ·
I have red marks on my right boob from trying this but my main problem is getting my hips high enough. Grrrr another one of those frustrating moves! lol Any tips on getting the hips up?
I'm pretty flat and I pinch my nipples every time when I try this trick. lol
My boobs don't ever hurt from it, but I guess I don't do it enough?
I m having that problem too. A week ago I tried so hard to get this move and i repeated it like 20 times.. after a while a noticed that I hurt my boobs and got red marks on it. But I think my nails were just too long , that might not have happend if I cut them short ;)
Its like I pinch my boobs when I try it, they always get in the way when it comes to pole
I've never had this problem...I can't invert yet, but I can go into a flag and hold it for a few seconds... Your boobs are supposed to be on the side of the pole, if you're not pushing your body out far enough then they will probably get in the way. I don't understand why some of you are getting marks on your chest? Unless I'm thinking of something completely different?
I've never had this problem...I can't invert yet, but I can go into a flag and hold it for a few seconds... Your boobs are supposed to be on the side of the pole, if you're not pushing your body out far enough then they will probably get in the way. I don't understand why some of you are getting marks on your chest? Unless I'm thinking of something completely different?
Veena ·
I could totally see how a Flag Invert would hurt the boobs! The flag alone, not so much, but as you move up into the invert, there is a motion where the pole really is smashing into the upper chest. I'm not sure how to fix it though....
mizzli ·
Does anyone know any exercises to build up strength in lifting the hips vertically? I keep getting stuck in a horizontal position. :(
EvaRut ·
Ahh the flag invert! :) I have tiny tits and I used to always pinch my nipples when I was learning it. It was so painful. but eventually it stopped as I got it right :) Unfortunately I can't really remember what it was. I got sick of trying, rested the flag invert for a few months then when I tried it again I got it the first time almost without effort. So always when someone asks me about what the trick is I tell them to try super hard for a few months, get pissed off from it. Don't try it for 2 months then try again and Voila! But ofcourse that's not it :) Good luck!
mizzli ·
@EvaRut thats so true actually, I did that with my titanic - really tried and tried, sought a lot of advice, worked with instructors but couldn't do it then left it for a week or a few and then got it when I tried again. Maybe thats the key with the flag lift. I'll come back to it! ;)
Veena ·
I had that happen with the Flag Invert too. I was telling Amber how I just couldn't get it and bam! Up I went. lol I think working on the Flag Invert from a V leg position for the lift is best, trying to kick off the pole doesn't give you the same feel. Also in this video you can see how the pole is pressed against the boobs as the body moves from flag to invert. @ 3:42 https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/4f6a5cbc-c5b8-44f6-9140-4b110ac37250
mizzli ·
HI @StudioVeena, that's such an amazing video - I hope one day I will be able to dance as smoothly. :) I'm currently trying to find a way around my motion sickness on a spinny pole and can't move that well around a static pole. :/ Thanks for the tips. :) Here's a pic of my current attempt, the body is horizontal and for some reason I always make contact with the pole using my shin. No idea how I get my shin instead of the knee pit, they aren't even on the same side! lol! I certainly have no idea how to move on from this stage too. :/ https://www.studioveena.com/photos/previous/51a100a8-4660-4959-b086-627e0ac37250
Veena ·
From your photo Mizzli, I can see that you haven't gotten the hips up high enough. You have to be past horizontal before you can grip the pole with the knee pit. This hips over head position, is what needs to click for the invert to happen, it's also when you'll feel the pole on the chest even as high as the clavicle and shoulder. You could try working on getting into the position by starting off in V legs and then tucking both legs as you work on lifting the hips over the head. I do a hard tuck to get the hips up in this video @ 3:44 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyLUUN65g0
mizzli ·
Hi Veena, thanks for the advice and great video :) I think after studying a few vids I realise my body is too horizontal but I can't seem to push myself up. I don't know if its lack of strength or fear of missing the pole and going straight over. I've been following emotioncatchers absolutely fab video http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=sJ_Iyaf6FiY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsJ_Iyaf6FiY but stuck at 1.20mins I can't seem to lift from a straddle or v leg position but I can if I swing my top leg sideways (as in video). Perhaps its something That might click if I come back to it after a few weeks? ;) xxx
m.youtube.comYouTubeEnjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.Veena, do you use your bottom hand to lower your upper body? It seems straight in the beginning and bent at the end.
Veena ·
The bottom arm bends because you're pushing the torso up from that arm.
I just cant do this at all :( tried and tried I used to sometimes get my foot on but now that's gone. If I try on the other side my boob is then stuck and squished :( not a chance of going anywhere then. Really really want this! Is it best to kick up ? Ive tried from a straddle and I find that even more impossible SIGH!!!!!!
Veena, could you explain it in more detail? How do you push with it if the arm get shorter when it's bending?
RoseMay ·
I was wondering whether the hand placement for the invert is the same as the one for the normal flag? I use the one that Veena shows in her lesson for the flag. With that hand placement I can easily go from the stomach-facing-the-floor pose to a normal flag with V legs. And from there, I "only" need to drop the head and lift the hips, yes? 😀
mizzli ·
Finally! My strategy of practicing the crap out of the flag invert then leaving it for a bit worked. I came back to it and got it first attempt!! Whoo hooo I would say if you are learning something, practice it and then leave it for a while and practice it again. You will most certainly get it! Here's my vid but still needs more work and control but it's a start! https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/51afb03b-221c-42d6-b023-6c400ac37250
