figure head with (patriotic arms?) then what?

Poleluver started this discussion · 2/3/2011

Trying to participate in an upcomping studio comp... for like a combo n stuff but not a full dance. I really am likeing the figurehead/titanic where you do arms forward around and hands lock. What is something I could do after that or transition out of with? Iam not planning on inverting during this but considering ckr- grabbing pole underneath, climbing, wrist sit ect. any ideas???

25 replies

crazykitten · 2/3/2011
Do you mean you're right-side-up with this move, or upside-down? I'm confused how you would go from the Figurehead to the CKR, since you'd be right-side-up.
Poleluver · 2/3/2011
no, not to ack, just saying wanting to do a few other things. I actually have no idea on what to do after the figurehead/titanic ( upright)
crazykitten · 2/3/2011
Ahh, I gotcha! If you have the back flexibility for it, you could rest the pole in one of your armpits and go into the Bee's Knees (http://www.triagedesign.co.uk/wikipole/index.php5?title=Bees_Knees), and then maybe grab with the other hand and Candycane spin down. You could even catch the Candycane into a sit and go into the CKR from that, speaking of the CKR! You could also go into the Superman (unless that's how you got into this move!).
chemgoddess1 · 2/3/2011
Are you talking figurehead or hood ornament? I don't see how you could get your arms locked forward for figurehead... Figurehead http://www.triagedesign.co.uk/wikipole/images/thumb/5/5e/Figurehead2.jpg/200px-Figurehead2.jpg Hood Ornament http://www.triagedesign.co.uk/wikipole/images/thumb/5/5e/HoodOrnament.jpg/200px-HoodOrnament.jpg From hood ornament you can go into teddy fairly easily http://www.triagedesign.co.uk/wikipole/images/thumb/8/8b/Teddy.jpg/200px-Teddy.jpg
crazykitten · 2/3/2011
I usually think of the Figurehead with the arms forward/hands behind the head and the body arched forward a bit: http://www.triagedesign.co.uk/wikipole/index.php5?title=Image:Figurehead.jpg From that position it's a little easier to transition into other moves, rather than having the body nearly straight against the pole and trying to transition.
MichelleH · 2/4/2011
@ akkis2: Candycane spin? Is this where you move from a armpit grip to a forearm grip and drop your other hand behind your bum? Different countries = different terms eek! I'm looking for combinations and keen to try this
vamp79 · 2/4/2011
wow I love figurehead. Can you explain how to get into that position? the picture is a little dark so I can't make out the points of contact looking from my phone. Also what move can you transition into it from? Im not advanced so the hardest thing I can do are things like plank, CKR, and basic invert : ).
vamp79 · 2/4/2011
wow I love figurehead. Can you explain how to get into that position? the picture is a little dark so I can't make out the points of contact looking from my phone. Also what move can you transition into it from? Im not advanced so the hardest thing I can do are things like plank, CKR, and basic invert : ).
MichelleH · 2/4/2011
Hi Vamp, not sure how chemgoddess does it but our studio teaches it from superman
vamp79 · 2/4/2011
oh no...I'm light years away from superman
MichelleH · 2/4/2011
I'm also struggling with this move, mainly in my head after a "fall" where my hand slipped off and I had to swing round quickly as my head aimed for the floor! I'm getting my hubbie to hold me up while I swivel round so I can get the feel of the move, then less holding more spotting, until I can do it on my own. Baby steps!
chemgoddess1 · 2/4/2011
ok...I have photos in my profile of both moves: https://www.studioveena.com/photos/view_photo/4d4c02b3-9b10-4976-a291-30b30ac37250 and https://www.studioveena.com/photos/view_photo/6fbc405e-d89e-11df-ab19-12313b090e12 For hood ornament you can get into it from either a side climb or regular climb. You need to be able to hold baseball grip aerially (is that a word?). Or you can get into it from say an inside leg hang and then puling yourself up over the hooked leg. Not really sure how I get into figurehead...I cannot get into it from a superman as I do not have enough flexibility. I kind of do an underarm spin aerially, pretty much one handed and then once I am in front of the pole I grab with the other hand.
crazykitten · 2/4/2011
@ MichelleH: The Candycane spin might be considered a pencil spin, or maybe a ribbon spin; I'm not sure what the common name is, "Candycane" is what my studio calls it. What you do is grip your hands in the baseball grip (like you would for the basic invert) and bring your body to the side of the pole (so at this point, if your left hand was the outside hand, you'd be on the left side of the pole). Then, keeping your body straight, you use strength/a little momentum to swing your butt in front of the pole and to the other side (so the right side if we're going with the same example). The spin follows from there, and brings you down the pole to the floor with your body straight and spinning around the pole with the butt always facing the pole. If that explanation doesn't make sense, I can try to post a video! @ chemgoddess1: You could get into the Figurehead from a Side Climb. After you've gotten a bit up the pole, you can turn your body and put your hands over your head like you were going into a Shoulder Mount. Figurehead!
vamp79 · 2/4/2011
I better make my side climb prettier if I hope to get into figurehead yay
crazykitten · 2/4/2011
@ vamp79: Now that I think about it, you could probably get into the Figurehead even from the regular climb. It would just possibly take more of a twist of the upper body to get in the right position. Or maybe you could climb, lean the upper body forward and grab upward on the pole, and let the legs swing around in front. I'm at work so I can't try it out, but that might be an experiment for tonight's practice!
vamp79 · 2/4/2011
akkis2 - I am trying to figure it out in my head but its impossible so I will also try it when I get home from work. I'm hoping it works out since i dont like my side climb yet.
chemgoddess1 · 2/4/2011
Karol goes into hood ornament a lot in her videos. Also, if you look for videos of the death lay typically the poler will climb, figurhead, then shouldermount.
vamp79 · 2/4/2011
so.....I tried and totally failed : \ let me know how it goes for you.
Poleluver · 2/4/2011
I didn't realize in class we were doing the figure head but seemed like your throw your body to the front after a simple climb and then I though I gotta do a clenched fisted hold with this and (boom) guess it became the hood ornament. I knew the figurehead with arms above were more like for arial shoulder mounting but am going no where close fast. Gonna check out the advise- thx guys!
CaseyT · 2/5/2011
You can get into the figure head from a regular climb.... I'm not advanced enough for superman etc, but can do this one! Climb up and hold regularly, grip with hands and swing body around to the front of the pole, grip with legs, the feed your inside hand under the outside arm (still gripping the pole) and grasp behind head, then you can arch and flick up back leg... Might not be the best explanation but can be done!
crazykitten · 2/6/2011
CaseyT's explanation works for me. It also works if you regular climb, twist the upper body around, reposition the top hand, and let the legs twist around to the correct position. Such a pretty looking hold!
FreeTheSun · 2/7/2011
@ akkis2 and MichelleH, based off your description I'm pretty sure you're describing the body spiral.
crazykitten · 2/7/2011
@ FreeTheSun--I may be, but whatever it is, you can end it in the Figurehead! I wonder if the Candycane spin I talked about earlier in this thread would also be called the Body Spiral?
crazykitten · 2/8/2011
Aha! I think the Candycane is commonly called the Corkscrew spin! Although I tend to keep my body more vertical for what I consider the Candycane, and with more of a horizontal tilt for the Corkscrew.
HollySatine · 2/19/2011
@vamp79 - I just posted a video in which I do the figurehead twice (I'm in an advanced beginner/intermediate level) - first at 1:58 where I get into it from a back knee hook (with elbow hold) on spinny pole (which is really fun because it makes you spin faster) and at 2:47 where I get into it from a side climb on static (which I still have to work on smoothing out but you can get a sense of what it should look like). Hope this helps!