Difference between one piece and multi piece poles?

acd3k started this discussion · 1/5/2013

hi guys! i'm about to order a removable PS Brass pole and was wondering what the difference between the multi piece and single piece options were? It seems to me (and I'm brand new so I don't really know) that the one piece would be sturdier and less likely to...snap or slip since it's solid. I was also wondering on the multi piece if where the pieces meet there is a hump (for lack of a better word), screws, grooves, etc and if so if it makes learning more difficult in any way. Thanks!! xxoo

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Pole gal · 1/5/2013
Hi hun. I've got a multipiece x-pole and it's very very sturdy there no sticky bout bits where the poles join, no joints stickin out ect. I LOVE my x-pole and wouldn't change it for th world. The upside if a multipiece is that u can take it anywhere with the carry case/s u get with the x-pole. xx
Pole gal · 1/5/2013
Hi hun. I've got a multipiece x-pole and it's very very sturdy there no sticky bout bits where the poles join, no joints stickin out ect. I LOVE my x-pole and wouldn't change it for th world. The upside if a multipiece is that u can take it anywhere with the carry case/s u get with the x-pole. xx
Pole gal · 1/5/2013
Also I've never heard of a multi-piece snappin or anything. x
Cherished · 1/5/2013
I have the old multi peice. I love it. There are no problems with the groove in the middle where the peices attach that interfere with my poling. On the newer versions I've read that some people set it up upside down to avoid interferance with the sleeve peice at the bottom while poling. Like Pole Gal says about hers, mine is also very sturdy. For myself I'd probably only get a one peice if my ceilings were too high for a removable pole.
Cherished · 1/5/2013
PS Mine is a platinum stage. I don't know if Xpoles have the sleeve peice at the bottom or if ps has made any changes since they introduced the bottom loading style.
Pole gal · 1/5/2013
Yea there's a sleeve at the bottom to cover the bit that tightens th pole but it screws to the other piece and had no problems with clipping my feet on it or gettin cuts from it etc. xx
chemgoddess1 · 1/5/2013
OK, so basically: A multipiece pole makes it easier to to move and you can move from house to house or room to room without having to buy a new pole. For anyone living in an apartment or thinking of moving in the next 5 years this would be your best option. PS multipiece poles HAVE snapped (I have witnessed it), but supposedly they have changed their design to meake the threading longer than it used to be. X has a better sleeve design. Many complain about the sleeve on the PS and just basically turn it into a top loading instead of a bottom loading pole. AerialGypsy has done this, she would be a great contact. PS still has issues with the threads not lining up properly. This has been an ongoing issue for several years and it is a crap shoot if you will get a pole that screws together properly on the first shot. There were issues with spinning XJoints and the sides of the tubes on the X's flaring at the joint but I have not heard of this issue since they redesgned bot the tubes and the joints (about 14 months ago). NO multipiece pole is rated for above 12 feet, so if you have higher ceilings you are stuck with buying a one piece. I think that pretty much sums it up.
Dancing Paws · 1/5/2013
The 1 piece is sturdier since you don't have seams. The pole is 1 piece. Multi's come in sections that fit together. I think 1 pieces are much better. If you have an 8' ceiling, a 1 piece should fit in most houses. If the ceiling is taller than that, and you move to a shorter ceiling, you can have it cut. If you have a short ceiling and move to a taller ceiling, PS is making extensions for the 1 piece. I always tell girls to go with a 1 piece if possible.
Dancing Paws · 1/5/2013
btw, on top of what chemmie said regarding seams not lining up. I had that happen on the PS multi piece AND my x stage light, so both companies have had manufacturing defents in that area. I did really dislike the sleeve on the PS pole, but it is so easy to take off and flip the pole to top loading (which I prefer anyways.) X pole does have a better sleeve design. X pole is just a little more coplicated to set up, so more prone to user error.
Pole gal · 1/5/2013
I find the x-pole really easy to assemble/disassembl e, I take mine down a few times and put back up in my house and others and haven't had any problems with it. As i sed i LOVE my x-pole n wouldnt change it l. Everyone has their own preferences of what type an make of pole they like/want. xx
acd3k · 1/5/2013
Thanks!!! So for the PS pole I should basically set it up upside down? So the sleeve on the bottom doesnt get in the way? I'm set on PS over XPole because I want brass and XPole wants too much for a product that isn't a *real* brass pole. Pussycat Poles is AU did tell me they will ship to US but the shipping fee is more than what a new PS or XPole would cost...maybe down the road but I don't think I can justify spending that money when I'm brand new. I have a truck with an extended bed so I'm not worried about transporting the pole. I don't plan on moving it much anyways, just when the parents are coming over or the landlord. So I think I've decided to go with the one piece! Thanks guys!!!
Cherished · 1/5/2013
Ooh you should ask around about a PS brass pole before ordering. I remember Lyme Lyte posting recently that she had grip issues and wanted to powder coat hers.
Aviva · 1/5/2013
I have a PS brass one piece. I love it. Most of the time it has great grip and it's a 38mm so it's crazy easy for hand grip. Sometimes though the grip is not so great and I don't know why. I have started keeping a record of the temp, humidity and how grippy the pole was for that practice to see if there is any pattern. So far brass seems to work better in over 75 outside temp and around 50% humidity. I have a chrome Xpole and when it's cold outside that pole is sometimes more grippy than my brass. In my records I list which pole I am using, too but since that pole is a 50 and I spent all my time for 10 years on 50s I use the 38 a lot more because I like the hand grip. Having said all that, I'm still getting a stage pole and having it powder coated when I get it. I want some sure-grip, grip everytime grip. I hope and pray I get that from powder coating.
chemgoddess1 · 1/5/2013
Please do not buy into the hype about what is *real* brass. Brass is not even REAL. I can only assume that you got that "knowledge" from PS as that is one of their favorite lines.
acd3k · 1/5/2013
@chemgoddess1 I am fully aware that brass is an alloy. My "knowledge" about *real brass* poles comes from researching multiple reputable sites and forums. By a "*real brass* pole" I meant a solid brass pole not a coating. XPole does not make a solid brass pole and use brass coating on it. That's not an opinion, it is fact. Personally, I do not feel right about spending more money on a pole with a brass coating when I could get a solid brass pole from a different company for a bit more or even less money.
Charley · 1/5/2013
I'm confused on the X-pole site it says the pole is solid brass? IS it coated or solid? "What is the difference in pole finishes? Brass - solid brass with enhanced grip Titanium Gold - electronically coated to enhance grip Chrome - most popular & best for general use What is the difference in pole diameters (thickness)? 45mm (1.75in) - easy to grip with your hands and used in worldwide competitions 50mm (2in) - best grip for leg holds & inversions"
Madame DeVille · 1/5/2013
I called XPole about this and was told it is a brass coating and it will vary from pole to pole. I know some have been told the same thing by the company and some have not.
Pole gal · 1/5/2013
I wud think that the downside to a one piece pole Is that if u move home what if ur ceiling heights are different to the ceiling heights u have just now thn u won't b able to use ur pole?
Aviva · 1/5/2013
I thought they ditched the "enhanced grip" anyway b/c it really wasn't???
Madame DeVille · 1/5/2013
On thier site Pussycat Pole also says "50.8mm pole diameter is the 'industry standard', it's our top selling diameter, and it is most widely used in pole fitness classes all over the world." I really think it just depends who you ask what the "standard" size is
Charley · 1/5/2013
Do you live in the US? I can say that probably most studios you will visit in the US will have 50's. It was the industry standard but now there are many comps that use 45's. In strip clubs 50's are pretty much the standard - although that too can vary - but most likely it will be a 50. So, it kinda depends and what you're doing. I recommend to my students who dance to get 50's because that's what they perform on, students who just do it for fun - I have them play on both and decided, students who want to compete - I usually say to get the 45. In Australia I know there are studios that use 50,45 and some that use .38's. There isn't that much of a standard and as we grow it will be interesting to see which pole surfaces as the "one" :)
chemgoddess1 · 1/5/2013
My understanding is that XPole is not solid brass because it is too weak of a material. Even Pole Danzer has a dual tube design. In order for the XJoint to work properly it has to be able to expand and the thin walls of the tubing are not strong enough to withstand the outward force that is needed. It is also my understanding that it is a double wall technology, not a "coating". If you do not think that brass can snap in half, think again.
Madame DeVille · 1/5/2013
Um...I don't think she thinks that at all...her OP she asks which is going to be less likely to slip or snap...she came here, like I did, to ask questions and try to make sense out of all of the information out there. I don't know if this is intentional but I think your responses have been a bit condescending and I personally would have been offended if you had anwsered something I asked you with that tone.
Madame DeVille · 1/5/2013
I can tell you the exact wording used by the customer service woman when I called XPoles was "coating".
Pole gal · 1/5/2013
There is a chance of all pole snapping or slipping regardless or wether they are multi piece or 1 piece poles. A 1 piece pole doesn't really mean that it's more stable and less likely to snap as i sed they probably all have the same chance of snappin or slipping.

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