Buying aerial hoop
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nothing ever comes up for me when I search No tab lyra
ah, nevermind. I see spitfire does.
Julia R ·
I've been emailing back and forth with someone from Fight or Flight Ent. and it looks like I'll be ordering my no tab lyra from them! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fight-or-Flight-Ent/136225323107160?ref=br_tf
AG I have used the no tab lyras from spitfire. I like them. Nice and lightweight. Never rigged one double point though. How do you keep the slings from sliding together at the top? I get how it might work for a tippy rig. I wouldn't think that taping and sling would provide enough traction to keep my weight from pulling the slings together. Granted, I am not in anyway a person who knows anything about ring.
I have used no tab - two points of span sets and they never moved :-)
That is good to know. For ease of rigging, I have been thinking about lyra, but I didn't want to commit to tabs. I think in the end, double tab would be something I enjoy a lot because I could transfer a lot more of my trapeze skills to the apparatus. But there's something so nice and clean about a single point.
Keiloces ·
The great thing about double point hoops is that you can hang it as a single point as well. I hung my double point lyra as a single point off of my 8ft ceiling to practice. I screwed a 4" eyebolt into the ceiling stud and it was really secure for me. Have an engineer inspect your house to be absolutely safe. This site offers free shipping anywhere in the USA on Aerial Hoops and they are great http://www.aerialempowerment.com/aerial-store.html
I have a no tab lyra. Right now it's rigged as a single point and hasn't moved. I would think double point (haven't tried that yet) would be less likely to move.
I'm currently at a studio that does not tape its Lyra hoops. This seems dangerous especially since they do not provide resin. Thoughts???
ronia ·
No tape? That seems really dangerous. Your hand could slip easily. Do they at least provide crashmats?
Squeak ·
Touching on the question of no tape... I prefer to not tape my hoops. It is not dangerous at all and in fact, can allow the aerialist to wear less clothing without worrying about getting chafed by the fabric tape. I also find it to be easier on my hands. Taped hoops make my hands sore and red much more quickly. As an instructor, I find that girls who come from pole actually take to an untaped hoop well...as they are used to gripping bare metal. (We offer both taped and "bare" hoops at my studio.) Your studio is probably using untaped hoops for sanitary reasons (and probably to save time and money on keeping up with re-taping hoops). A bare hoop can be easily cleaned and sanitized with rubbing alcohol or mild cleaners. Whereas, the tape we use for hoops is essentially fabric and glue. Think about it...fabric and glue...can you imagine the germs and dirt that get stuck in that tape? And it is not exactly easy to sanitize between classes. Some studios go months between taping hoops. Thinking about how many people have touched the hoop, had it in their crotch, etc...no thanks. I'll go play on the untaped hoop. ;)
Veena ·
Thank you Squeak, I was wondering if it was ok to leave a hoop "naked"! Seemed like it should be fine, but I didn't know why some taped the hoops, what you've explained makes sense!
I have trouble on bare lyras...seems very odd but it's true and it's because my palms sweat when I am doing something I've never done before...and lyra is scary to me anyway. I feel way more solid on the pole. I'm sure that fear and subsequent sweaty hands would lessen with time, but I'm not on lyra enough to know and be comfortable yet. However....I also don't like a fully taped hoop because it's SO, so grippy. One brilliant solution I have seen is to only tape key contact points, leaving most of the lyra bare.
Squeak ·
Sparrow, that is a great idea. When I first trained on hoop...my instructor only had tape in major contact areas. If your grip is an issue...definitely feel free to use grip aids on the hoop just as you would with pole. You might also want to cross-train on fabrics a bit. I used to have grip issues on the pole and then got into fabrics for a couple of years. When I went back to pole, I had a death grip from working on the fabrics all the time!
Yea, I do fabric too. Talk about hard to clean!! ;)
Squeak! That makes so much sense about untaped hoops! I have always wondered why anyone would ever use a bare hoop. They scare me to death! But thinking about what you stated, I started out in trapeze then moved to fabric and lyra…..and am struggling at learning pole. So I suppose I am just used to the grip of tape and used to covering myself with so much clothing to avoid burns and scrapes. Now I'm wondering how an untaped hoop would feel with more skin contact especially with the recent pole experience. Could offer a great opportunity to incorporate burlesque into shows more often. I would never be able to do burlesque with a taped hoop! Ouch! Thanks for the insight. :)
I like to tape my hoop so it can be pretty lol!
I originally made the lyra for AerialAnimals.com , Her husband now makes them, as well as very nice trapeze bars and even a triple trapeze that breaks down into 2 double traps for separate use and for easy travel. (MY design that I gave them). Regarding lyra with tabs. I usually suggest a NO TAB lyra. if you have a 1 tab or 2 tab, you are stuck using it that way. with a no-tab, you can use span-sets to be a one point, 2 point, and even a 4point for Chandelyra. http://damnhot.com/trapeze/New_port_rig.htm
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Hi, Im ordering a no tab lyra because I like the ability to hang it as either single or double tab, but I cant find any good info on how to use the spansets to hang it. Can anyone send a picture of both rigging techniques? Thanks!!
If you want to attach a span set to a no lab lyra - you just tuck the spanset under the hoop, take one end of the span set and loop it through the other loop of the span set. Tighten and attach to your caribeeners and then to your mount point. The only thing to be aware of with a no lab lyra - understand that the lyra can "get away from you" in certain maneuvers. Just be cautious that this can happen. My studio has a couple rigged that way and when we do certain moves, we don't use those to practice bc it's not safe.
Thanks Storypole, that was my guess. And i dont want it to be unstable, maybe I should rethink no tabs. So far Ive only used a single tab, but I like some of holds you can do with the double. Decisions....
What makes a "good swivel"? Someone mentioned this is key above but I don't recall seeing how you actually know what's good or not - does it just need to be steel? Also so many people say to get a professional rigger but how the heck do you find them?? I've researched and googled extensively, also tried contacting a circus school, placed a wanted posting for this specifically but no luck. I basically am just going with a general contractor that's coming out next week since that's all I can find - is this ok or any advice?
Ok I think Im going to get a double tab and just hang it as a single when I want. Other than the 2nd tab possibly being annoying when its hung as a single, does anyone have any reason why is a bad idea?
My swivel and all of my hardware came from aerialessentials.com. Also, I would consult an engineer. Basically, you need someone qualified to tell you how to set it up so that it can support the load.
