Allegra move
Marieke started this discussion ·
I''m trying to learn the allegra move. But it's hurt so much in my back. Is that normal? Maybe I do something wrong? 🙄
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Marieke started this discussion ·
I''m trying to learn the allegra move. But it's hurt so much in my back. Is that normal? Maybe I do something wrong? 🙄
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I've been trying this and it leaves a bruise right at the lowest/floating ribs. I start off with the pole at the fleshy indentation between my ribs and hip but I'm very short (4'10") so there it's a tight fit so when I reach around with my hand, the area compresses and the pole hits the bottom rib from the bottom up...does that make sense? I can hold the move but it not secure, it hurts and it doesn't look good. I feel like if I the area between my ribs and hip bones were just, oh I don't know, maybe 1" longer, I will be able to wrap my torso around the pole without it pressing against my ribs or hips. I used to go to a studio that had 1.5" poles and I found most moves like pretzel and flat line scorpio to be much easy on my body. I pretty sure I can do the allegra on those poles, no problem. I just have to find a way to work around the thicker poles...or find myself a 1.5" pole!
deetron ·
Yes this move hurts my side at my floating ribs too!! I'm putting it fairly high up in the list of the most painful moves I've ever tried!!
estine ·
i find that you really have to focus on keeping it closer to your hip other wise the pressure ends up pushing on your ribs and it def hurts. i'm actually short too 5 ft 1in so i can relate with needing to be precise with getting into the move correctly
amy ·
turn your back to the pole-- it shouldn't be on your side, open your chest and drop that outside shoulder!!
My problem is that my arm can barely reach when I turn to the side. I'd love to see a picture of a short gal (who isn't super bendy) doing it so I could see where they hold.
Hey! I'm also really short (in the 5 foot nothing category) and I got my allegra! Maybe not the best looking but I'm pretty satisfied with it :) I agree with Amy that I use my back instead of my side to hold. The first few times I had pole shaped bruises running diagonally across my back. I also use my thigh to hold a lot. Anyway, I'm linking to my pic of it. Good luck!!! I promise it's possible!! https://www.studioveena.com/photos/view_photo/4db21390-1384-441d-be98-6ded0ac37250
I broke my 10th and 11th rib a few months ago working on the jade and the allegra. Not exactly sure which one did it, but if is more pain then just pole burn get someone to help you so you don't hurt your self and have to take time off. I think Veena has a great lesson on this move.
Great post. I love the discription of the Allegra. I will try agian when I am 100%.
amy ·
I find personally that going into the move from a hands-free chopper is much less painful as the pole is deep (and stays in) in the hiphold and doesn't have as much of a achance to migrate to the ribs.
I like Jenyne's method of going into Allegra from apprentice. It also puts the pole right at your hip and allows you to unwind your chest away from the pole, so the ribs never make contact.
@ottersocks: can you please send a link of the video :) I'm having trouble visualizing this.
Oh yes...that would be great. I tried to find it on youtube..but no luck
I have zero skill/luck at finding moves in videos, my apologies! I learned this from Jenyne. You start in an apprentice V hold at the side of the pole-- for me, right (inside) thigh pressed to pole, left outside arm at nose height, right inside arm fingers down with right thigh placed on the pole above the hand. Lean back into a V. (See Apprentice on www.wikipole.org--but don't hook the top ankle on the pole, and keep both legs straight.) From there, both knees bend so you tuck into a ball and hold the pole between your knees/lower thighs. To do that, you'll need to let the pole slide from the top of the right inside thigh up deep into the hip crease on that leg. Once you have a good squeeze on the pole, your bottom right hand releases and re-grabs the pole behind the right inside knee, thumb up. Release the left outside hand, and unroll the body and chest away from the pole, down to the left. Ta da--Allegra! I hope this helps. If you're totally mystified, I can try to video it.
I have zero skill/luck at finding moves in videos, my apologies! I learned this from Jenyne. You start in an apprentice V hold at the side of the pole-- for me, right (inside) thigh pressed to pole, left outside arm at nose height, right inside arm fingers down with right thigh placed on the pole above the hand. Lean back into a V. (See Apprentice on www.wikipole.org--but don't hook the top ankle on the pole, and keep both legs straight.) From there, both knees bend so you tuck into a ball and hold the pole between your knees/lower thighs. To do that, you'll need to let the pole slide from the top of the right inside thigh up deep into the hip crease on that leg. Once you have a good squeeze on the pole, your bottom right hand releases and re-grabs the pole behind the right inside knee, thumb up. Release the left outside hand, and unroll the body and chest away from the pole, down to the left. Ta da--Allegra! I hope this helps. If you're totally mystified, I can try to video it.
cool..thanks ottersocks
estine ·
ah, sorry for giving poor advice. i did look at more pics of people doing it and they are way more tilted than i am. i have to re try this now.
estine ·
question is the jade also on your back??
I just took a class from Alethea Austin and she teaches the jade with a back hold rather than the side if the stomach being a point of contact. It is a little hard to get used to curving your body around the pole so that your back is touching it, but when you pull down the top leg it locks you in place super well. Like...someone could sit on you and you wouldn't move! Just be sure to pull down on the top leg and close the gap between your leg and your chest and you should be good to go! :)
I just took a class from Alethea Austin and she teaches the jade with a back hold rather than the side if the stomach being a point of contact. It is a little hard to get used to curving your body around the pole so that your back is touching it, but when you pull down the top leg it locks you in place super well. Like...someone could sit on you and you wouldn't move! Just be sure to pull down on the top leg and close the gap between your leg and your chest and you should be good to go! :)
I just took a class from Alethea Austin and she teaches the jade with a back hold rather than the side if the stomach being a point of contact. It is a little hard to get used to curving your body around the pole so that your back is touching it, but when you pull down the top leg it locks you in place super well. Like...someone could sit on you and you wouldn't move! Just be sure to pull down on the top leg and close the gap between your leg and your chest and you should be good to go! :)
ottersocks, i would love to see a video of this if you're able to.
omg this is so painful. :/ i love the move though. keepin' on.
I also find Allegra extremely painful, and Can't even release the top leg :(
video would be AMAZING ottersocks! i simply cannot get this one, my body just doesnt seem to bend that way!
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/207714_10150266142513206_532948205_9474161_1048446_n.jpg This is my awful attempt at an Allegra, and as close as I got. Most times I can't even get that far cos of the pain it causes on my ribs/mid back! And releasing the top leg seems impossible!
