thats what i was wandering i was thinking this can’t really what people are going through while they do knees and smile whole time https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif i thought there might be a slightly less painful way to get into it i was def putting all the pressure right on my shin bone very very painful ( and i am not usually one to avoid a move bc of pain as know it gets easier) i think it’s 1 of the most impressive moves and would really like to learn it if anyone has any "insider tips" on how to make it a little less painful i would greatly appreciate it https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif