this is all really good advice guys. i agree with you guys- the pain is horrendous, and the bruises you can get from the pole are christmas card worthy they can be so bad sometimes! but eventually the pain DOES go away. i used to get off the pole all bent over in pain and now i can hangout on the pole up there all day and it doesnt’ bother me https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif but i agree with georgia- take your time, don’t push yourself too hard- be patient, you’ll get it eventually https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_flower.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_santa.gif