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    Posted by Sanchara on March 8, 2010 at 12:08 am

    I was wondering if anyone had a comprehesive list of what moves to learn at each level to work through in order to build better Pysical Literacy and have smooth, consitant progress.

    I started by mastering the moves that came on the X-Pole DVD but didn’t know where to go next so I lost interest in poledance for a while…now I’ve dusted off my X-pole and want to start over.

    Sanchara replied 14 years, 2 months ago 10 Members · 20 Replies
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  • Veena

    Administrator
    March 8, 2010 at 12:40 am

    My lessons here on SV, are set up in that progressive manner. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif I also include strength training and stretches that are important for pole. All lessons can be viewed as soon as you buy them… but they are set up in order according to level of difficulty. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_sunny.gif

    One thing to keep in mind…everyone learns at a different pace and a lot of moves depend on your flexibility as well as strength. Some advanced dancers can do handsprings and such, but don’t have the flexibility to perform say…a pole split with is not as physically demanding (strength wise).

  • RoxyPink

    Member
    March 8, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    http://www.wikipole.org has a great list of moves….unfortunately they aren’t listed in order of dificulty/level. Your best bet if your learning at home is either to 1. get some dvd’s (I highly recommend Jamilla’s art of pole set) and 2. take some online lessons like Veena’s (heard they are pretty good!) https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif

  • Sanchara

    Member
    March 9, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    lol, I could always work through them in alphabetical order https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif

  • Judy Jovanelly

    Member
    March 9, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    actually, maybe i am biased, but i believe the veena lessons are the absolute best. the monthly charge is reasonable, but if you can swing the annual charge in one payment, it works out even less per month… whatever you decide, good luck https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

  • Veena

    Administrator
    March 9, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    Aww thanks Jayjay ….we have have a surprise coming too that should help you all out with names and yes it will be free. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_geek.gif

  • Judy Jovanelly

    Member
    March 9, 2010 at 9:02 pm
  • sabian

    Member
    March 10, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    I made a post here with suggestions of places to look for move pics.

    I come back today with additional information…and my post is gone!

    so here it goes again!

    There are numerous websites and instructors that have move pages listed for free.

    Vertical Dance
    Soirre Studios
    Kiwi Pole FItness
    Body & Pole
    PoleJunkies

    then there are the paid lessons….

    Vertical Dance Online lessons
    SV lessons here
    PoleJunkies
    I just heard Karol from PolePraxis will be offering lessons..

    then there are instructor training.
    Vertical Dance
    PoleCat
    PoleDivas
    PoleJunkies
    Aradia Fitness
    Fawnia Mondey Deitrich

    If you are looking for additional move catalogues…you can look at the wikipole and then see who the poler is in the picture…find out who they are, and their website will definitely have more!

  • Veena

    Administrator
    March 10, 2010 at 3:23 pm
  • sabian

    Member
    March 10, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    thats great news….

    where are they located…I dont seem to be allowed to do many things on this site.

    are the names ones known…or did you make your own?
    I would love to find a list that is an international standard..with the name of moves not people who did them. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif

    Many of the names you use here are greek to me, and have never been heard of in the studio I go to.

    Most of the places I mentioned above, use a standard for names..and most of them are the same…will you be following a standard?

  • Webmaster

    Administrator
    March 10, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Sabien, you can do everything on this site except watch paid lessons. You are not restricted from any other activity.

    Also, currently there is no international standard lexicon of names for pole moves. Pole as an industry is still in its infancy, and is just starting to become unified in its approach. It is highly unlikely that you would go from one pole studio to another and have all, or even most of, the move names be the same.

  • sabian

    Member
    March 10, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Thank you for the response.

    There are hundreds of schools who use similar names and that is what I meant by following standards. The question should have been asked better…sorry.

    Are the names similar or the same as to what is currently known on wiki or any of the other pole move sites?
    Or, are you making up your own names for moves?

    webmaster… there are many things I cannot do on this site…I am unable to send pms to people, unable to view profiles of people in my country, I was not able to enter chat yesterday or this morning! There has only been 1 time I was able to enter chat since I have registered here. Several occasions I have not been able to post on threads. Times when postings are made and then gone when I try to edit or add to it.

    I keep getting the page that tells me my membership (non member) does not allow me to ___________.
    ….and yes I was signed in!

    thought you might like to know! sorry to hijack the thread.

  • Webmaster

    Administrator
    March 10, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Sabien,

    At StudioVeena.Com we are fortunate to be able to serve thousands of members world-wide every day, this experience and contact has given us tremendous insight into the language of the community. While there are some common names that we use, there are other names that are different from school to school. The assertion that there is a common lexicon between schools, much less hundreds of schools, is simply incorrect. The lack of this common terminology is why there are very prominent members of the community doing extensive research to develop a common language. Naming schemes are generally based on the focus of the school whether exotic, fitness or dance and further tempered by the background of the instructor/s.

    We have in most cases adopted terminology for our moves that is descriptive in nature and an accepted name/term in the community.

    As to your login difficulties I can suggest trying another browser, and updating your flash for chat problems. Generally login problems are caused by malware(spyware or viruses) in the browser you are using while chat problems can be caused by requiring an update to your flash component (found at http://www.flash.com).

  • Fleur

    Member
    March 10, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    The fact that there is no single, accepted naming convention for pole vocabulary is one of the biggest hurdles facing pole as a "legitimate" sport. Jenyne Butterfly is working on a pole repertoire and figuring out the names that are most commonly used to describe the moves. You can check it out at http://www.polemovement.com/

    In the meantime, we all have to try to name things in the way that seems most appropriate and logical to us. Veena and I use the same names for the majority of the moves we teach because we’ve discussed the fact that descriptive names are more appropriate and logical than other (ie: inverted thigh hold versus "the Tammy").

  • Judy Jovanelly

    Member
    March 10, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    descriptive names are more appropriate and logical than other (ie: inverted thigh hold versus "the Tammy").

    i love logical ! the tammy LOL !!!!! actually, we are on the verge of opening our studio and have just been discussing this very same thing…

  • carriej

    Member
    March 11, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    I totally agree that having the move names unified would be great. But, I’m divided about the descriptive name thing. On one hand it gives you an idea of what you’re supposed to be doing which is great but on the other hand there are moves that are just too hard to explain!

    I’m giggling as I think of a more descriptive way to explain the allegra ("The leg trapped between your arm and pole move") or the butterfly ("inverted one leg on the pole bent at 90 degree angle and the other bent behind you" move).

    fleur, I know this is not what you mean. I’m in a silly mood today. It is funny when you try to call a move by name and everyone else looks at you like you’re speaking a foreign language.

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