StudioVeena.com Forums Discussions X-Pole Customer Service …. which, apparently, is non-existent

  • upandover

    Member
    January 27, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    It ended up being a burnished finish, which compleatly invalidated the reasoning behind buying a brass pole in the first place.
     xpole smartened up, but it was too late for those of us that had already been taken in by the horrible finish and the promise of nice grippie brass you find in other poles.  No appoligies from xpole, no willingness to replace it for the proper polished finish.

     

    sorry chumps your outta luck

    sucks to be you…. 

  • tehCammy

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 8:15 am

    Upandover check out my post about the X Pole brass. A classmate and I both complained about our brass X Poles as soon as we got them. It took a long time, but X Pole replaced the pole pieces for both of us.

     

    If that's not an option you can polish the matte finish brass up – X Pole put a guide on their youtube channel. Because you are in Taipei it would probably be less expensive for you to polish it as opposed to having new pieces shipped, right?

  • DixiePixie

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 11:05 am

    I too had a not so lovely customer service expierence with Xpole… I called to ask a few questions about one of the poles before I bought it and the woman I got on the other end seemed very short with me and much less than enthusiastic to answer any of my questions. I felt like I was being rushed with my inquiry. Not the warmest feelings from the people at Xpole. I really do like my pole but the customer service needs to improve a bit. I am gun shy to call back with any more questions I may have.  :-< :-< .. (ps. I perfer phone convos and talking to a live person rather than waiting on an email that may not answer the questions to the extent I needed)

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 11:15 am

    I have always called and talked directly to Kimara.  When the studio I was working at got XStages I think I talked to her at least twice a week for over a month and asked a MILLION questions.  I cannot vouch for any other rep but her.  I also always called her extension or sent her emails directly. 

  • Mary Ellyn

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Having only dealt with XPole US for the past few years I can say that Heydi, Kimara, Stephanie and CJ (when he use to work on the phones) have always been enthusiastic and helpful. My students who have had reason to deal with them also have never had a complaint about service.

  • Dwiizie

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Heydi is my girl over there! She has worked diligently when I have had an issue or two, she follows up, and genuinely cares. <3 her!

  • PlatinumAni

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif Surpised to hear some of these, I have rarely heard negative feedback on their cs. Wonder if something has changed because most of this seems recent…

  • upandover

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Thankfully I was able to resell the thing, after 7 months of trying. The first lady I sold it to brought it back to me and wanted her money back, she found it so awful to work on. I finally managed to sell it to a friends studio (mostly because she took pity on me that I couldn’t find anybody that wanted it)

  • Anonyma

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    never had problems with x pole service, you have to put yourself in their shoes

    they get the same annoying questions on and on… i find them very patient

    maybe they could put something like " if your email or phone call wasnt answered , look carefully on our website for the answer"  instead of making you wait and wait, 

     

     

     

     

  • tehCammy

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    They are being put forth by the company as customer service representatives – handling customer care is their job. The assertion that the client should put themselves in the shoes of a person paid to assist them as a response to lackluster service is ridiculous. Imagine applying that logic to any other industry? What if you bought a studio class and the instructor was too busy to teach the class at the scheduled time? Or she wanted you to come to her house because it was too close to Christmas holidays?

    I didn't want to post this online, because even though it took almost a year they fixed it eventually. X Pole, one associate specifically, made me wait and wait to receive a response about an issue related to product quality, not something I could have looked up on the website. From my initial complaint the responses I received were snippy, dismissive, and even at times insulting. Even while I continue to respond to emails courteously and considerately. Everyone else I have dealt with at X Pole has been fabulous, especially Stephanie.

    As a customer it is not my job to contact the vendor in the most convenient way possible for whichever individual employee. It's not my job to chase and chase somebody who is paid to support this vendor's product. If I treated any of my clients like this I would not have an income stream.

    It would appear that X Pole has a dedicated customer service team, they should create support tickets and try to weight the customer service rep with the brunt of these issues as opposed to these operations essential employees.

  • DixiePixie

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 5:09 pm

     Well said TehCammy. There is nothing wrong with expecting good customer service. These products are NOT cheap, right? When I call and ask questions I make sure I am never anything short of courteous and understanding. That's just how I am as a person. I knew there wasy no way that I was out of line anywhere….

  • Anonyma

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    don t take my comment the wrong way, but as a compagny of course they ll go with what matters the most "money"

    there is no money to be made with people complaining all the time and wanting freebies and replacement pieces…. i find them very nice to do what they do even if it clearly says all sales are final. 

    The client is not always right, and if you dont have $$ for them, can t really blame them for not calling back immediatly

    anyways, i never had any problems with x pole ! 🙂 

  • PrincessPeach

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    I work in customer service and think its a shame that x-pole are being slandered publicly and as a company.

    Ranting online seems to be the “in” way to get things sorted these days but all it does it cause ill feeling.

    If you have a complaint about a particular member of staff you should feed that back to x-pole so they can deal with it appropriately. How can they rectify an issue and improve their service if they are unaware of their teams poor performance?

  • DixiePixie

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    It still doesn't make it totally right. and I highly doubt people are "complaining all the time" they have good products over all. A lot of us are curious first timers needing some guidance. That's all. period. the end. There is nothing wrong with any of that. If they can't answer a few questions then they need to find people who can do so, or at least fake it. Word of mouth travels fast and its not good for business for ANYONE if people are rude to their customers. If your in customer service, you need to be able to provide good customer service. The representatives shouldn't get to choose when to be courteous and when to make someone feel like a bother. It comes with the job.

  • PrincessPeach

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    Companies hire based on interviews and potential to perform. Unfortunately intelligent and perfectly capable people can be very lazy! They won’t nessescerily know a member of staff is lazy and underperfoming unless you tell them. If you don’t tell them this member will continue to underperform and continue to provide bad service to other customers. If you do complain the company has the opportunity and evidence to take appropriate action and replace with (hopefully) a better agent. Companies can’t fire people on a whim, they do need your help in order to develop and grow!

  • tehCammy

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Thank you DixiePixie.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with encouraging a culture of informed consumers. You may look at it as "ranting online" but what about when we're raving about a product or service? I've tried to behave in a balanced way throughout the process of informing other customers about my issues with the brass X Pole and ultimately having it replaced. I understand that the associate I spoke with probably views me as a difficult customer, and since she is aware that I did complain directly to X Pole (and was funneled back to the original representative) is probably not pleased with me. I think the problem is that these people have specific job titles and responsibilities that aren't related to customer service, as such they aren't fully invested in customer care. The solution would be to appoint a customer care team, or if the business isn't big enough a customer care leader or task-force.

    Because I hear so many good things about this particular contact at X Pole I don't want to complain directly to the owner of the company and risk her position. I know in my case I was asking a lot and I don't think that would be fair. I work with CEOs and owners of major retail businesses and I know if a consumer lodged a complaint they would take it seriously because (as we are seeing in this thread) consumers are more likely to share negative experiences, and it reflects poorly on their brand.

    As far as "freebies" and "replacements" I think at that point in a customer service experience you're affecting future revenues and your brand image, obviously in most cases the money is already spent – unless the consumer is really peached off and files a charge-back. Personally I spend a lot of time in studios, I'm outgoing and talk to everyone I meet about my experiences, I'm active in social media, and up until very recently worked in the fitness industry. I represent continued sales potential for X Pole through referral marketing. If you treat your clients like a one-off you aren't going to make it far in business.

  • Anonyma

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    maybe x pole needs more staff to answer their calls

    i dont think there is 25 employees working there during day

    I think that the people who are answering the phone their job is to take orders and tryin to deal with pleasing customers, but when it comes to answer  more specific questions  if  they don t have the answer,  they try their best to reffer the client or something like that 

    can you imagine paying one more salary just to answer the questions… i think they do the best they can! 

     

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    DixiePixie, where are you located?  I am wondering if you are out of the US as I keep seeing a theme of the US customer service being very good but outside of the US it is extremely spotty.

  • DixiePixie

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    I live in the US, Virginia to be specific.

  • TheMomNextDoor

    Member
    January 28, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    I live in the U.S., too, in Florida. My degree field is PR and I work as a writer as well as a Client Services Director and I can tell you customer service is everything, doesn't matter what you're selling– services, products, whatever.. I went with X-pole rather than the highly rated and much cheaper knock-off brand because I knew I was serious about my poling "hobby" and wanted a reliable product, as well as a reliable company that stood behind that product. And as far as "ranting" online, if the complaints are justified, businesses know to expect it if they don't live up to their own hype. Absolutely. I even told X-pole what I was going to do in my last message– didn't say it threatheningly, just that I was going to get online and see if I could find info or a solution. The good thing is, at least X-pole is savvy enough to respond to these online complaints. I'm encouraged that the rep showed up here on this post.

  • X Pole Tech

    Member
    January 29, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Dear Veena’s

    X-POLE is a service orientated company. We pride ourselves on the level of service we offer to our customers and all the staff are directed to support our customers in every way. We are not saying we are perfect; mistakes, misunderstandings and problems happen, but we will do our utmost to give the best service we can. If we don't we need to know about it.

    We sincerely apologise here and now for any problems any of you have encountered and we assure you that all areas of customer service will be looked into. We know there have been some slip ups over the last couple of months, hopefully now rectified, these have been due to growing pains which have taken longer to address that we would have liked.

    Around the world, X-POLE offices operate during normal working hours and there are dedicated service/support email addresses on our websites, so we find it hard to understand why people seem to be experiencing so many difficulties in contacting us. We receive multiple phone calls on a daily basis –  calls about our products, sales calls, tech support calls, etc.  – so someone has been getting through to us!!

    In some instances we may not be able to respond to all emails on the same day and many of our offices are only staffed by a single member of our team, as we may only sell a limited number of poles in that country, so an instant response may not be possible. All our offices will reply as soon as they can. However, being expected to answer the office phone or reply to an email on Thanks Giving or Xmas day is somewhat unfair and yes, that does happen regularly.

    X-POLE is not a major corporation, it is a small company, trying hard to help grow a superb new industry.  Even with the likes of major corporations such as Apple, you have to book your service appointment in advance, which from our personal experience can often take up to a week or more. So, even with that in mind X-POLE does respond to the majority of communications the same day and we are always trying to improve on all our response times. We too know how infuriating it is not to get a response email or call back –  we are consumers to!!

    One major problem we do face is that users do not read or follow the instruction manuals. A large amount of the questions or ‘problem calls and emails’ we get are already answered in the instructions (we know they need improving and they are being worked now) and so if you experience a problem, as we have stated above, please call us before going any further and damaging your pole. We are at the end of phone every ‘working day’ i.e. Monday-Friday but not on National holidays like Xmas, Thanks Giving or Chinese New Year.

    In specific response to ‘upandovers’ comments on being threatened:  X-POLE to our knowledge has never threatened anyone nor have we sent threatening letters pertaining to a civil suit to anyone – especially over a brass issue. That type of action or response would have to come from the overall Managing Director of X-POLE and from his understanding  that has never happened – we have checked with him!

    However, where people have been importing and/or selling fake or copy X-poles, claiming they are X-POLE itself, we have advised those companies that we will take legal action and indeed in some instances have taken successful legal action against several of them and we are still pursuing others. If, ‘upandover’, you have been threatened by one of our offices over a brass issue, as you advise on this site, that is a matter we take extremely seriously and our International Managing Director would like to see the emails you have received immediately. Please send them to mailto:xpoletech@x-pole.co.uk as soon as possible and they will be forwarded to him.

    As to the brass issue, the first thing to get correct once and for all is that there is no such thing as 100% brass. So, it is impossible for us to confirm that our poles are 100% Brass. Brass is an alloy, which means it is Copper and Zinc mixed. So whatever ‘anyone’ says there is no such thing as ‘Pure’ or 100% Brass!!!! Just  to re-confirm to everyone X-Poles are made of Brass (alloy) tube with the same/similar properties as any other Brass pole and they are not a thin brass tube over a steel sleeve as has also been advised on this site nor are they plated!!  X-Poles competition Brass poles do however, have secondary ‘Dual Lining’ for rigidity, but this is put into the Brass tube after the manufacturing process and is not part of the brass tube itself.

    We have many customers who love the original brass finish (and have even asked us not to change it on this very site) but as always with so many different skin types that finish did not suit everyone. So, always striving to improve our products, we have spent a considerable time testing different finishes and polishes, one of which we now use on our latest brass poles. That same finish can be achieved by re-polishing the brass, if you are unhappy with your current brass finish. We have put a video up on our UK web site of how to do it, it is not difficult just takes some time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbfsLoWfJA&list=UUoo9Z0IxkkooTT1yQK634Sg&index=2

    Finally, we would like to say a few things from our side of the counter. 99% of the communications we get are pleasant and ask for help. However, there is a small percentage that start by threatening us, telling us that someone close to them is an engineer, that our products are rubbish, they don’t work and that they, the customer, has done everything correctly etc. etc. and that if we do not answer the same day, give them a new pole, they will set the local legal system on us! We even get people swearing in emails and down the phone at our customer support team.

    Whilst we treat every enquiry in the same way regardless, we would say that this type of communication is unnecessary and does not start the dialogue off in the right way. Normally, from experience, this type of initial attitude (not all)  is due to customer misuse or similar and so it sets ‘bells going’ before we have even started actually understanding the problem. X-Pole’s target is for everyone to be happy with their X-POLE. We would never intentionally sell a ‘problem product’ or refuse to support a manufacturing problem, we regualrly replace products/parts often without question  – so please, contact us with a positive demeanour and we will respond and sort your enquiry as soon as we can. And importantly, if we made or make a mess of it we ‘will’, and do, apologise.

    One request we would like to make is to be sent photos of a problem immediately – in focus please! Photos, as they say, are a thousand words and often, the problem the customer thinks they have is not actually the case and so photos allow us to sort an enquiry out quickly and without too many back and forth emails.

    X-POLE is a responsible company, anyone who knows the CEO or the management team know that and so service and customer support is built into X-Pole’s culture. Any problem or complaint will be dealt with as soon as humanly possible and sorted to the best of X-Poles ability.

    Growing pole worldwide has been the aim of X-POLE since day one. We like to think that we have been a contributory factor to where pole has got to today and so, why would we want to threaten this development by upsetting our customers, the very people who are part of that growth?

    Please contact your local office if you have a problem, we ‘are’ here to help. The local contact information is available on the http://www.xpole.com/web site – if that fails or you cannot get in touch with your local office please email us at mailto:xpoletech@x-pole.co.uk and we will guide you in the right direction and get your request sorted asap.

    Best Regards

    X-Pole Tech Support

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    January 29, 2013 at 11:00 am

    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

     

    The reason I fully support X Pole.

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    January 29, 2013 at 11:37 am

    I've had major issues with my x pole's, but I can say that the people I spoke to were very willing to help me. I've actually had great customer service from all the pole companies out there. They are fairly willing to help me when I have an issue.

  • portableninja

    Member
    January 29, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    For what it's worth, I just called Xpole to discuss my own technical issue with a pole, and the experience was great. It seems like it really depends on who answers the phone when you call.

    I used to work customer service at my last job, and ended up in a management position where I was training and evaluating other reps. Unfortunately, not everyone is a pro from their very first day, even if they are trying very hard to do a good job. If someone is inexperienced or hasn't been adequately trained, mistakes can happen and incorrect information can be given out. Also, if there is an issue with a specific employee and it's brought to their manager's attention, it is much easier for the manager to retrain the rep or provide additional guidance on how to handle that issue, than it is to immediately fire that person and hire a brand new employee (and then have the inexperienced new-employee problem all over again).

    It's very easy to judge a company on one negative experience. I have certainly been guilty of it myself. Now I work for a company that does thousands of online transactions per day, and invariably there are a few where something goes wrong. Trust me when I say that the reps do care about you and want you to be happy. It's good to remember that the reps you are talking to at any company are not only there to help you – they have many other customers to serve, and perhaps you are not the first person to complain about your issue. Perhaps they are collecting data on how many people have reported the same issue as you, and at what point in the product life cycle, to help their engineers solve the root cause.

    There's also an expected failure rate with any sort of manufacturing process. Newegg.com is a great example of this concept. Even their best reviewed products have a few zero-star reviews, from people who got a computer part or a toaster that was dead on arrival. It doesn't stop me from buying a product if a few of them show up dead… it just means I'll want the problem handled appropriately if it does happen to me. And it sounds like most of the time, Xpole does.

  • TheMomNextDoor

    Member
    March 6, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    UPDATE! After emailing back and forth with x-pole and sending photos (and more photos), I got a call yesterday from Heidi at X-pole. She left a voicemail msg. asking me to return her call, which I did today. Long story short, Heidi apologized for the customer service experience, said it was highly unusual and not what x-pole usually delivers. She was AWESOME! In addition to resolving my problem, she spent an incredible amount of time on the phone giving tips on how to properly set up the x-pole and take care of it.

    She also promised to send out new parts via Fed Ex  tomorrow! I am so excited….the anticipation I feel is like a kid waiting for Christmas. It's kind of surprised me just how much I've missed my pole– I'm pretty sure I'm addicted 😀 

    And this couldn't have happened on a better day. This morning I drove 1 1/2 hours (each way!) to the studio where I take Pole Fitness classes whenever I can, only to find the class I signed up for had been canceled at the last minute. I was so disappointed! And had wasted about $20 in gas. So, believe me, I can't wait to get back to my online lessons with Studio Veena. They absolutely rock!

    The final word is my customer service experience with x-pole went from zero to 10 on a 10-point scale.  It took 3 months for my issue to get resolved but I am definitely pleased!

     

     

     

     

     

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